verlaine1979 Posted 5 December, 2015 Posted 5 December, 2015 Aside from Pelle and Gestede today, which other teams in the PL regularly play 4-2-3-1 or other single-striker formations with a slower target man rather than a quicker, less physical centre forward? Giroud probably fits the bill, but I'm not sure who else.
Batman Posted 5 December, 2015 Posted 5 December, 2015 that system is kind of dying out. it is even more about pace and movement all over the park now. as said, we are turning into 'stoke'
derry Posted 5 December, 2015 Posted 5 December, 2015 Leicester playing 4-4-2 and topping the league. Commentator says the difference is the numbers getting into the box and pace up front.
Verbal Kint Posted 5 December, 2015 Posted 5 December, 2015 I'd have liked to see a fully fit Rodriguez getting a run as the lone centre forward, but we've never had the chance
doddisalegend Posted 5 December, 2015 Posted 5 December, 2015 Does Glen Murray count not sure he is a target man but he is ****ing slow. What about Norwich and Cameron Jerome?
Batman Posted 5 December, 2015 Posted 5 December, 2015 Leicester playing 4-4-2 and topping the league. Commentator says the difference is the numbers getting into the box and pace up front. vardy and okazaki work like slaves up top and defend from the very front. something we really do not do. Arsenal are probably the only decent side that go for a bigger, old style target man up top. But he is pretty mobile and the players around him are incredible most of the time
St Lej Posted 5 December, 2015 Posted 5 December, 2015 that system is kind of dying out. it is even more about pace and movement all over the park now. as said, we are turning into 'stoke' Ah, so this is your current phrase that you're going to keep repeating ad nauseum tonight is it? "We are turning into Stoke"....wtf does that even mean?! You,ve never mentioned this theory before today, and suddenly something in todays game has convinced you that we are turning into Stoke, so much so that you've had to say it almost every time you've posted this evening. Did you even watch Stoke last season, or are they just a suitable boring club to pigeon hole us into for effect? Go on, say it the next time you post too, it'll be classic. You are so fickle that the comedy effect of you reacting to everything on a game by game basis is hilarious to read.
saint_roffa Posted 5 December, 2015 Posted 5 December, 2015 Aside from Pelle and Gestede today, which other teams in the PL regularly play 4-2-3-1 or other single-striker formations with a slower target man rather than a quicker, less physical centre forward? Giroud probably fits the bill, but I'm not sure who else. Liverpool when they play Benteke.
DuncanRG Posted 5 December, 2015 Posted 5 December, 2015 Most teams play 4-2-3-1. Big physical starting strikers off the top of my head: Pelle Benteke Giroud Carroll Gomis Costa Gestede (though he hasn't started for Villa all that often Lukaku Mitrovic So yeah, quite a few do it and many do it with success.
Pamplemousse Posted 6 December, 2015 Posted 6 December, 2015 I'd have liked to see a fully fit Rodriguez getting a run as the lone centre forward, but we've never had the chance I think we have to write off this season for him, a bit like Walcott last season for Arsenal after coming back from a lengthy spell out.
nta786 Posted 6 December, 2015 Posted 6 December, 2015 Most teams play 4-2-3-1. Big physical starting strikers off the top of my head: Pelle Benteke Giroud Carroll Gomis Costa Gestede (though he hasn't started for Villa all that often Lukaku Mitrovic So yeah, quite a few do it and many do it with success. All of them are much faster than Pelle too though I swear- except maybe Mitrovic.
Batman Posted 6 December, 2015 Posted 6 December, 2015 Most teams play 4-2-3-1. Big physical starting strikers off the top of my head: Pelle Benteke Giroud Carroll Gomis Costa Gestede (though he hasn't started for Villa all that often Lukaku Mitrovic So yeah, quite a few do it and many do it with success. Benteke hardly starts Carroll only starts because the others are allout injured Gomis has been on the bench Costa......well Gestede was shyte and came off Lukaku is excellent Mitrovic is in and out mixed bag really
Turkish Posted 6 December, 2015 Posted 6 December, 2015 Most teams play 4-2-3-1. Big physical starting strikers off the top of my head: Pelle Benteke Giroud Carroll Gomis Costa Gestede (though he hasn't started for Villa all that often Lukaku Mitrovic So yeah, quite a few do it and many do it with success. All those teams turning into Stoke. Who'd have thought it.
verlaine1979 Posted 6 December, 2015 Author Posted 6 December, 2015 Most teams play 4-2-3-1. Big physical starting strikers off the top of my head: Pelle Benteke Giroud Carroll Gomis Costa Gestede (though he hasn't started for Villa all that often Lukaku Mitrovic So yeah, quite a few do it and many do it with success. Lukaku, Costa and Benteke are all quick as well as strong, which was the dichotomy I set up. Of course, it's better to be both, but really the question is, if you can't have both, which seems to be the preferred option elsewhere?
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 December, 2015 Posted 6 December, 2015 Ah, so this is your current phrase that you're going to keep repeating ad nauseum tonight is it? "We are turning into Stoke"....wtf does that even mean?! You,ve never mentioned this theory before today, and suddenly something in todays game has convinced you that we are turning into Stoke, so much so that you've had to say it almost every time you've posted this evening. Did you even watch Stoke last season, or are they just a suitable boring club to pigeon hole us into for effect? Go on, say it the next time you post too, it'll be classic. You are so fickle that the comedy effect of you reacting to everything on a game by game basis is hilarious to read. He really does not like saints, why he bothers hanging around I have no idea,every other team is better according to the loon Hardly ever goes to a game either
Sour Mash Posted 7 December, 2015 Posted 7 December, 2015 Aside from Pelle and Gestede today, which other teams in the PL regularly play 4-2-3-1 or other single-striker formations with a slower target man rather than a quicker, less physical centre forward? Giroud probably fits the bill, but I'm not sure who else. Carragher on Monday Night Football saying almost every team in the Premier League play with a target man now.
Verbal Kint Posted 7 December, 2015 Posted 7 December, 2015 Carragher on Monday Night Football saying almost every team in the Premier League play with a target man now. Of the current top 10 in the PL, 7 of them don't play with a target man as their first choice striker. Leicester - Vardy Arsenal - Walcott City - Aguero Utd - Rooney/Martial West Ham - Sakho Liverpool - Sturridge Stoke - Walters/Diouf Only Spurs (Kane), Watford (Deeney) and Palace (Wickham) do. Take out Leicester and Watford if you wish, as both really play with 2 up front
Sour Mash Posted 7 December, 2015 Posted 7 December, 2015 Of the current top 10 in the PL, 7 of them don't play with a target man as their first choice striker. Leicester - Vardy Arsenal - Walcott City - Aguero Utd - Rooney/Martial West Ham - Sakho Liverpool - Sturridge Stoke - Walters/Diouf Only Spurs (Kane), Watford (Deeney) and Palace (Wickham) do. Take out Leicester and Watford if you wish, as both really play with 2 up front I'm just reporting what they were discussing, I don't care that much either way. But Giroud is ahead of Walcott isn't he. Carroll for West Ham as well. Arnautovic for Stoke. Can argue about the definition of a "target man", but there does seem to be a pattern there.
Verbal Kint Posted 7 December, 2015 Posted 7 December, 2015 I'm just reporting what they were discussing, I don't care that much either way. But Giroud is ahead of Walcott isn't he. Carroll for West Ham as well. Arnautovic for Stoke. Can argue about the definition of a "target man", but there does seem to be a pattern there. Walcott was picked ahead of Giroud this season before his injury and Arnautovic plays out wide. I'm not sure I care much either way but the trend to me suggests that those that go for pace and performing better so far
Sour Mash Posted 7 December, 2015 Posted 7 December, 2015 Walcott was picked ahead of Giroud this season before his injury and Arnautovic plays out wide. I'm not sure I care much either way but the trend to me suggests that those that go for pace and performing better so far Walcott's career as a centre forward has been pretty limited, Giroud's much more successful. Who played centre forward for Stoke Saturday?
Verbal Kint Posted 7 December, 2015 Posted 7 December, 2015 Walcott's career as a centre forward has been pretty limited, Giroud's much more successful. Who played centre forward for Stoke Saturday? Bojan, with Affelay behind him
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