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said it a few weeks now

we have to do something different in attack

we have been shyte up front for a while yet we keep on with the same things

 

Pelle does not defend from the front, is not quick. moves little and when he does it is slow

Mane needs to be central with him or Long has to come on for him.

There is not enough tenacity, fitness and closing down. Not enough competition for places or there might be but RK doesn't choose to use other players than his favourites...

The players should be in training tomorrow, run to Portsmouth and walk back ....

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We've had chances, but most of them feel gifted rather than created. Finishing is characteristically awful, but more depressing is the fact that we're just so f-ing dull to watch. Watched the Stoke/City game earlier, and saw Stoke play attacking football more intricate and inventive than anything we've managed all season.

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There is not enough tenacity, fitness and closing down. Not enough competition for places or there might be but RK doesn't choose to use other players than his favourites...

The players should be in training tomorrow, run to Portsmouth and walk back ....

 

closing down has gone from the side 90% of the time.

we sit back and get into a shape rather than close down.

 

we go for the CBs when they have the ball and that is about it

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JWP off for Long or Juanmi for me

Get mane central and actually run at them

 

we do that alarmingly so little

 

Please not Long. He's only even slightly effective when you give him balls over the top to run on to. When he plays against a team that defends deep, which Villa are sure to do now they have a lead to protect, he's just an empty shirt that offers nothing.

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It happens that we hit a mid-season blip and lack confidence, worryingly it's the lack of killer edge that has disappointed me. Mane/Pelle both not on form. Tadic/Bertrand have been bright sparks, JWP has had good corners but he's far too defensive. He should be higher up the pitch with Davis, especially as we have Wanyama on. Cedric has played well and got down the line. It's simply we've played well without scoring and lost concentration..

I'd change a couple of things, I'd swap Pelle for Mane upfront and stick Long//Juanmi on, I don't think we're getting any joy from crosses and we need a quick striker like Mane to get in behind. Right now we can't get him in the game. I'd also consider swapping JWP for Clasie and have him playing a more attacking direct game..

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What worries me isn't the performance or the fact JWP keeps getting into the starting line up meaning we are basically playing with 10 men. It's Koeman just looks so disinterested now, no shouting or firing players up on the sidelines. Its a far cry from how he was 4-5 games ago. As someone else said on a different thread it looks like something has gone on behind the scenes.

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Something just doesn't feel/look right.

Players seem to be having a pop at each other a bit quickly after missed placed passes, the most lethargic defending of a corner I have ever seen.

Koeman and staff barely energetic/fired up.

 

No speed in our defending, 50/50's or even tempo in possession.

 

As for the game plan, Lescott and Okore are happy to play against the cross-long ball, we need to be playing in between the lines and having a 10 in the game. (Would love to see Gaston there!)

 

What do you reckon Monk? Some sort of disagreement between the board and Ron, Ron and the players or both?

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We have become very very slow right across the pitch - so slow with the ball, no-one wants to pass forward , Wanyama and JWP have been awful

 

Pelle is an interesting one, the long ball game with him in there reminds me a bit of SRL in his last season where his mobility cost us. I'd have Mane right up against their CBs second half as they are going to park the bus and then some

 

Team looks like it needs new faces in it, starting with a playmaker and a wide man

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Really think people are reacting to the scoreline rather than the performance. We've created loads of very good chances and dominated the game, we just haven't put them away. And that is compounded when we defend a corner as badly as that one

That's fine, but they don't award points for performances.

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Oh for a fit Forster and Rodriguez.

 

Definitely need to change things up, not sure why we think the same old thing will turn it round.

 

Not using youth players is killing our identity a little bit. Rather Hesketh and Seager on the bench than some of the players we choose. Creativity of Juanmi and Ramirez would be good, Romeu getting more game time too. All a bit of a mess really.

 

Or Harry Reed

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We have these every season here at Saints. Just a loss of form before Christmas.

In 2013-14: after the November international break we managed to get 2 points out of 18.

In 2014-15: after November international break we managed 1 point out of 15.

2015-16: I'm expecting something similar.

 

We'll pick up, we won't get relegated, we will finish mid-table- because that's what we are.

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We have these every season here at Saints. Just a loss of form before Christmas.

In 2013-14: after the November international break we managed to get 2 points out of 18.

In 2014-15: after November international break we managed 1 point out of 15.

2015-16: I'm expecting something similar.

 

We'll pick up, we won't get relegated, we will finish mid-table- because that's what we are.

 

 

What he said

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Nobody is moving! Jwp runs with the ball and the rest of the midfield are just slowly walking forward! 1-0 down and soon to be 4 losses on the trot, you'd expect a bit more effort ffs

 

it has been like that for a while

The9 is adamant we have lots of movement up top

 

vic and tadic off for juanmi and romeu

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We have these every season here at Saints. Just a loss of form before Christmas.

In 2013-14: after the November international break we managed to get 2 points out of 18.

In 2014-15: after November international break we managed 1 point out of 15.

2015-16: I'm expecting something similar.

 

We'll pick up, we won't get relegated, we will finish mid-table- because that's what we are.

 

Complacency is very dangerous

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Now we are just like all the other mediocre clubs

 

a couple of years ago, being a saints fan felt special, great academy and exciting first team. Feels like we've turned into WBA.

I know it sounds like bed wetting. Sorry.

Great try by Juanmi.

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