Goalies

[angelman]

There was some mention in the post match thread about MS and how he isn't doing well. That there were 7 shots on goal of which 6 were goals. Others said he wouldn't be able to save all 6 and there wasn't defensive coverage etc. Fair enough, so I thought a little more analysis was needed.

 

http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/stats?competition=1&season=2015&category=GOALKEEPING&team=0&sort=12

 

This gives all the stats. The rankings are based on clean sheets but not sure that tells the whole story. I look at SOT (shots on target) and GA (goals allowed) and the conversion rate. That changes things a bit if you work out a percentage of goals let in. Just going to look at those who have played for over 720 minutes.

 

Butland - 20.6%

Cech - 22.2%

de Gea - 22.2%

Lloris - 22.7%

Gomes - 25.4%

Howard - 25.7%

Myhill - 29.0%

Adrian - 29.3%

Hart - 31.0%

Pantilimon - 31.7%

Begovic - 32.7%

Hennessey - 33.3%

Fabianski - 33.9%

Krul - 34.0%

Mignolet - 35.7%

Schmeichel - 36.2%

Guzan - 37.0%

Stekelenburg - 40.5%

Ruddy - 41.0%

Boruc - 51.5%

 

(Kelvin D is on 28.6%)

 

I can't really recall more than a handful of saves that Stek has made, although the stats say that he has made 22. But that might include something that dribbles towards the goal. Anyway I think he is a weak link and given the terrible goal to shot ratio, why aren't we trying to push our own goalies forward (Gazza)? If he was in the low 20s, then I could see that he was a huge benefit to the team, but in the 40s, it ain't great. I know the analysis is a little over simplistic, and it is testament to the defence that we have "conceded" one of the fewest shots on target.

 

So as I say, I consider him to be a weak link and can't wait until FF comes back. Last season his GA/SOT was 25.9% (again behind a very tight defence).

[Whitey Grandad]

'Shots on target' is meaningless unless you also analyse the nature and accuracy of this shots. That one of Ibe's last night was fast, low and just inside the foot of the post. I don't know of any goalkeeper who would have saved it.

[sadoldgit]

I really struggle to see how he was expected to save any of those last night. Liverpool's finishing was deadly. In fact I can think of many goals he has let in all season where you can say he definitely should have saved that. Maybe the second last night that he did get something on but then he was still alone and left with a one on one and Sturridge nearly fluffed it.

[sadoldgit]

'Shots on target' is meaningless unless you also analyse the nature and accuracy of this shots. That one of Ibe's last night was fast, low and just inside the foot of the post. I don't know of any goalkeeper who would have saved it.

 

Indeed. A shot might be goal bound but within easy reach of the keeper whereas it also could be goal bound but bound for the corner of the goal giving the keeper less chance.

[Sheaf Saint]

Stek seems to be coming in for a bit of stick from some on here, but I honestly don't know what people were expecting from an average keeper who was brought in on a season-long loan to cover an injury, knowing full well he will drop to the bench once our number one keeper is fit.

 

FWIW,I don't see that he was at fault for any of the goals last night. Liverpool's finishing was outstanding, but serious questions must be asked about the quality of the defending which let them into those shooting positions in the first place.

[warsash saint]

Would one of forum 'experts' please tell me which goal he should have saved?

 

Second I except he maybe could have done better (but it was hit at pace from close range) BUT the other five were all stuck into corner or roof of net!!

[angelman]

'Shots on target' is meaningless unless you also analyse the nature and accuracy of this shots. That one of Ibe's last night was fast, low and just inside the foot of the post. I don't know of any goalkeeper who would have saved it.

 

Accuracy, is easy. It's on target, means it will go in, but of course it doesn't take into account power etc. But it is the same for all keepers and over a season (or in this case less than that) it should by all accounts be broadly similar for all keepers. But I am looking somewhat beyond last night's game, and the figures in the Fox Sports site are purely league games. Given that all keepers face dribblers and limp shots, it still portrays Stek as letting in a far higher percentage of "shots on target" than pretty much everyone else.

[angelman]

Would one of forum 'experts' please tell me which goal he should have saved?

 

It's not about last night's game. Really not complicated that is it? I looked into things because of the criticism given on the back of last night's game, and looked at the bigger picture, hence why looking at keepers with over 720 minutes playing time. Look at the stats in the link and they are LEAGUE games.

 

Second I except he maybe could have done better (but it was hit at pace from close range) BUT the other five were all stuck into corner or roof of net!!

 

As above.

Edited 3 December, 2015 by angelman