One thing I do miss.

[Donatello]

And JWP is what exactly...this is the problem, no one really knows, he's certainly not got the qualities to make a real DM,

if he's not an AM then that only leaves the nebulous role of CM or utility man.

 

CM or RM, imo (RM preferably). At any rate, utility men are useful by their very nature. You need utility men. Milner, Blind, etc. Good teams have them too. Nebulous or otherwise.

[doddisalegend]

And JWP is what exactly...this is the problem, no one really knows, he's certainly not got the qualities to make a real DM,

if he's not an AM then that only leaves the nebulous role of CM or utility man.

 

 

Have to agree JWP doesn't really seem to have a position. He just doesn't have any stand out abilities that cry out to play him in a certain position. He is technically good with a ball and can play a number of midfield positions competently enough to be a useful squad player but beyond that he just isn't as good as our other options in midfield.

[Window Cleaner]

Have to agree JWP doesn't really seem to have a position. He just doesn't have any stand out abilities that cry out to play him in a certain position. He is technically good with a ball and can play a number of midfield positions competently enough to be a useful squad player but beyond that he just isn't as good as our other options in midfield.

 

Strikes me that he's become a mini-Davis, a sort of jack of all trades who excels at none. His primary goal should be to become efficient enough to replace Davis in the side as starter and see where he goes from there. Until he does that he'll be in and out of the side.

[Donatello]

Strikes me that he's become a mini-Davis, a sort of jack of all trades who excels at none. His primary goal should be to become efficient enough to replace Davis in the side as starter and see where he goes from there. Until he does that he'll be in and out of the side.

 

Would you consider that to be an academy success? If JWP becomes a Davis-quality player? (I absolutely would, hence why I'm asking).

[once_bitterne]

Would you consider that to be an academy success? If JWP becomes a Davis-quality player? (I absolutely would, hence why I'm asking).

 

The worry is more he will become an Andrew Surman quality player.

[Donatello]

So what's the current opinon on his progress then ? He was a stand in for Bertrand so obviously no real comparison can be made yet on their respective qualities.

 

I forgot to reply to this.

 

I'm slightly perplexed by the sentence in bold. Why can't a direct comparison be made because one happens for be first choice and the other not? What else are we to go on? :S

 

At any rate, my own 'assessment' of Targett would be that he currently lacks A) the technical ability, and more importantly, B) the speed to be a prototypical modern fullback. Defensively he's fine. Technical ability may come with time, but speed will likely always be a factor - perhaps a player can overcome that with good judgement/reading (i.e. knowing when to selectively attack). Moving forward though, I can't see him becoming the type of starter we'd need, unless we play a 'chalk on his boots' left winger (which would somewhat mitigate the need for him to get forward). And there isn't going to be much room on the bench for a LB. Who knows, perhaps he'll develop his crossing and become Trippier-esque

 

P.S Definitely good enough to be our back-up LB though.

[Whitey Grandad]

I forgot to reply to this.

 

I'm slightly perplexed by the sentence in bold. Why can't a direct comparison be made because one happens for be first choice and the other not? What else are we to go on? :S

 

At any rate, my own 'assessment' of Targett would be that he currently lacks A) the technical ability, and more importantly, B) the speed to be a prototypical modern fullback. Defensively he's fine. Technical ability may come with time, but speed will likely always be a factor - perhaps a player can overcome that with good judgement/reading (i.e. knowing when to selectively attack). Moving forward though, I can't see him becoming the type of starter we'd need, unless we play a 'chalk on his boots' left winger (which would somewhat mitigate the need for him to get forward). And there isn't going to be much room on the bench for a LB. Who knows, perhaps he'll develop his crossing and become Trippier-esque

 

P.S Definitely good enough to be our back-up LB though.

 

I would add that his positioning is suspect.

Edited 25 November, 2015 by Whitey Grandad

[Window Cleaner]

Would you consider that to be an academy success? If JWP becomes a Davis-quality player? (I absolutely would, hence why I'm asking).

 

Yes I think so, Davis isn't a bad player at all and we could certainly use a home grown lad who's prepared to stay with us for a while once he's topped out..

[mattiiiboiii7]

Re JWP and his position; Can it be argued that Rooney "doesn't have position" like JWP also and hes does well enough for himself?

 

Surely it's a good thing to be able to play multiple positions?

 

Although, I assume the argument is he's not strong enough in any one position so constantly floats around the starting XI.

[Saint Charlie]

Rooney may be somewhere between a no9 and 10 but he is definitely a forward and he has definitely scored over 200 goals from club and country and is the record goalscorer for England so he has a pretty well defined role as an attacker who scores.

 

Not sure its the best comparison.

 

Its good to play different positions if you are a master of them, but versatility without that makes you unlikely to nail down a place in a good team.

Edited 25 November, 2015 by Saint Charlie