Saint Charlie Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 Pretty sure our game with Stoke will also feature a grand total of zero French players FWIW.
The9 Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 Pretty sure our game with Stoke will also feature a grand total of zero French players FWIW. Yeah, there's also that - but that's not even relevant really, it's still bandwagon-jacking irrelevant posturing by the Premier League for a match where half the players are French.
naiser Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 Agree it is ridiculous. Sent from my E5823 using Tapatalk
100%Red&White Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 Not that anyone in Block 35, and a few others I assume, will know much about it. Just the usual muffled sound coming out of the PA.
JRM Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 A minute's silence is an appropriate means of remembrance. They played the French national anthem at Wembley on Tuesday because, I don't know if you remember, WE WERE PLAYING FRANCE. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have played it - and suggested people sing along - had we been playing Germany this week instead. This smacks of the PL thinking "****, the FA have done something pretty spectacular there, we need to do something different to the usual so we're not perceived to be less compassionate". We're not playing France, we've never even played OUR OWN national anthem at league games before. Why not go the whole hog and move all of this weekend's PL games to Paris? i'm with you on this Steve, completely unnecessary in my opinion and a good reason to spend an extra 10 mins in the pub pre-match on Saturday.
Saint_clark Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 Still bo11ocks. That sounds like it's going to be quite uncomfortable to be honest. It's like someone offering their condolences over and over and over again...eventually you just start to think they don't mean it and are doing it for show.
LeBizzier69 Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 I'll be too busy eating the new brie baguette from the food outlet and buying the latest black and white horizontal striped t-shirt with "ring of onions" motif around the neck to sing along..... Frankly ridiculous idea.
Lets B Avenue Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 I'll go down the front and throw a cockerel (not Glenn) onto the pitch.
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 Great - not. I want our team fired up and ready for the action - not bloody trying to remember the French national anthem and their minds wandering to political ****e
davefoggy Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 Cool, if we're having a French themed day at St Marys, does this mean they'll be serving Kronenbourg instead of the usual ****?
norwaysaint Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 This. The rest of you, as I said earlier, and numerous times, easily offended/upset/outraged moist-fannys. Wow, that's a little bit over the top, don't you think? All I can see on this thread are a few people responding to whether or not they think it's the best course of action. The biggest reaction I can see is somebody writing an email. I can't find a single post that reflects being offended, upset or outraged. Perhaps you're reading them all in an outraged voice. Calm down and read them back in a more casual way for a more realistic interpretation.
doddisalegend Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 Wow, that's a little bit over the top, don't you think? All I can see on this thread are a few people responding to whether or not they think it's the best course of action. The biggest reaction I can see is somebody writing an email. I can't find a single post that reflects being offended, upset or outraged. Perhaps you're reading them all in an outraged voice. Calm down and read them back in a more casual way for a more realistic interpretation.
CB Fry Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 This morning I heard that it was a discussion point on Talksport and genuinely thought they were reacting to some crackpot idea, or had come up with it themselves. Turns out it is actually happening. Just bizarre.
Batman Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 This morning I heard that it was a discussion point on Talksport and genuinely thought they were reacting to some crackpot idea, or had come up with it themselves. Turns out it is actually happening. Just bizarre. This is like changing your facebook profile pic to that of one with the french flag imposed on it or telling the world via twitter HOW MUCH you care...on steroiuds
CB Fry Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 This is like changing your facebook profile pic to that of one with the french flag imposed on it or telling the world via twitter HOW MUCH you care...on steroiuds Look at me, look at me, all caring and that.
DuncanRG Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 If it were last Saturday instead of this, and the Wembley friendly hadn't happened, I could perhaps understand.
Batman Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 If it were last Saturday instead of this, and the Wembley friendly hadn't happened, I could perhaps understand. It's a good look for the corporate branding of the premier league
fish fingers Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 I'm going to remain in the concourse as a protest.
Deano6 Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 I'm going to remain in the concourse as a protest. Better still, do us all a favour and remain at home.
whelk Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 Like Diana's funeral. Some people getting unduly worked up though. A letter to the club? Now that is committed
shurlock Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 It's a good look for the corporate branding of the premier league Is that another f**kw*t thing TalkSport has told you to say or is that one all your own. You do realise, Jamie, you're attention-seeking 'disgust' ain't a million miles away from the charity narcissism that you seem to impute to every minute action and seems to give you a near-permanent hard-on.
fish fingers Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 Better still, do us all a favour and remain at home. Alright chief, whatever you say.
whelk Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 Is that another f**kw*t thing TalkSport has told you to say or is that one all your own. You do realise, Jamie, you're attention-seeking 'disgust' ain't a million miles away from the charity narcissism that you seem to impute to every minute action and seems to give you a near-permanent hard-on. Lol well put
Batman Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 (edited) Is that another f**kw*t thing TalkSport has told you to say or is that one all your own. You do realise, Jamie, you're attention-seeking 'disgust' ain't a million miles away from the charity narcissism that you seem to impute to every minute action and seems to give you a near-permanent hard-on. nope. no talksport today you **** but this is a good effort in attention seeking yourself. Oh look at me, I am going to suggest something has been ripped off talksport - again. Then I will reply with an even more condescending post to further my own futile point made before. And then repeat until bored. Edited 19 November, 2015 by Batman
saint boggy Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 I really don't think playing the french national anthem is appropriate or necessary . I would much prefer to show my respect to the victims of Friday's attacks in Paris by standing in quiet reflection for 1 minute's silence , as we do for any other occasion when we want to remember someone who has passed away or to mark any other sombre event . Considering that we don't ever play OUR OWN national anthem , it just doesn't feel right to stand for someone else's :-/ ... I think the PL have made an error in thinking that is how football fans want to pay their respects. I absolutely think we need to mark the occasion and show a collective comraderie with our neighbours but a minute's silence would be a much better way to do it ...........IMHO obviously
Lighthouse Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 nope. no talksport today you **** but this is a good effort in attention seeking yourself. Oh look at me, I am going to suggest something has been ripped off talksport - again. Then I will reply with an even more condescending post to further my own futile point made before. And then repeat until bored. Don't forget to mention the free Mediterranean ferry service for terrorists.
The9 Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 If it were last Saturday instead of this, and the Wembley friendly hadn't happened, I could perhaps understand. And we were in France, and it was a Ligue 1 match being played.
saint boggy Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 The thing about it for me is that if i'm stood there listening to the French national anthem it will feel very forced, insincere and just plain out of place. It'll feel uncomfortable rather than respectful because of that. My feelings exactly ......
krissyboy31 Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 I really don't know what the PL want to achieve with this? The Wembley tribute was a poignant, touching thing of beauty and more importantly absolutely relevant to the occasion. I get the feeling (as DD has already mooted), it's more to do with their worldwide profile than any real desire to show respect and solidarity.
The9 Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 I really don't know what the PL want to achieve with this? The Wembley tribute was a poignant, touching thing of beauty and more importantly absolutely relevant to the occasion. I get the feeling (as DD has already mooted), it's more to do with their worldwide profile than any real desire to show respect and solidarity. They want to appear as involved in the process as the FA were, or at best just don't want to be made to look bad in comparison. They're REALLY hoping that no-one finds a way to support France but criticises the Premier League at the same time. Booing the Premier League anthem in a Man City style might be a start, but a bunch of French flags with anti-Premier League messages might do it. Of course no-one in a public position will be critical of it as they don't want to be seen as callous (even though it's a perfectly valid point), and no-one in the media is going to be openly critical because they all need their access to the Premier League's stars and won't want to risk that.
krissyboy31 Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 They want to appear as involved in the process as the FA were, or at best just don't want to be made to look bad in comparison. They're REALLY hoping that no-one finds a way to support France but criticises the Premier League at the same time. Booing the Premier League anthem in a Man City style might be a start, but a bunch of French flags with anti-Premier League messages might do it. Of course no-one in a public position will be critical of it as they don't want to be seen as callous (even though it's a perfectly valid point), and no-one in the media is going to be openly critical because they all need their access to the Premier League's stars and won't want to risk that. But a minute silence with pictures of the French tricolour/Eiffel tower/Arc de Triomphe on the big screens would have had the desired effect and been much more relevant.
The9 Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 But a minute silence with pictures of the French tricolour/Eiffel tower/Arc de Triomphe on the big screens would have had the desired effect and been much more relevant. I'd have been pretty p155y about that too, having already done two of them - but at least it wouldn't seem as crass, just a little "too late" and superfluous. I don't recall any stirring renditions of God Save The Queen before Premier League games after the 7/7 bombings - I also don't recall any criticism of any of Europe's other major football leagues for not doing that either.
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 I'm not sure that its wrong but its definitely selective and inconsistent. A minute's silence is respectful but yet gain, selective solidarity. I agree. A minutes silence perhaps might be more appropriate. How long is this likely to go on?
Turkish Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 I agree. A minutes silence perhaps might be more appropriate. How long is this likely to go on? We might as well drag it out until the Liverpool game as they'll be due their own one by then again anyway.
manina-pub Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 I think the club should produce song sheets of the anthem - issue them at the turnstiles so we can at least sing along, perhaps even a local singer leading the anthem ? How about themed headwear ?
Lighthouse Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 I'd have been pretty p155y about that too, having already done two of them - but at least it wouldn't seem as crass, just a little "too late" and superfluous. I don't recall any stirring renditions of God Save The Queen before Premier League games after the 7/7 bombings - I also don't recall any criticism of any of Europe's other major football leagues for not doing that either. I seem to remember sitting through 3 separate minutes applause for Gary Speed after his death. None of which preceded a game involving Welshers or any of his former clubs. In fairness there were no games for over a month after 7/7, being July and all. There was a minutes silence at the British Grand Prix the following weekend though.
scotty Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 I'd like to suggest that in solidarity with the French, we wait for the match to start and then all run like f*ck out of the stadium.
Gemmel Posted 19 November, 2015 Posted 19 November, 2015 Whilst I don't necessarily disagree with the sentiment (Albeit not the most original).... I was there on Tuesday and whilst 70'000 thousand England fans tried their hardest, the reality is we ballsed it up - Not that it made any difference, it was all about the gesture and solidarity - but that has to be the hardest song in the World to sing - Even with the freaking words.
brmbrm Posted 20 November, 2015 Posted 20 November, 2015 Don't forget to mention the free Mediterranean ferry service for terrorists. Its this sort of racist $h!t that makes you and IS difficult to tell apart sometime. You hate them why exactly? Because they are fleeing oppression?
niceandfriendly Posted 20 November, 2015 Posted 20 November, 2015 What a bunch of absolute wet fannies we have on here, upset about the French national anthem being played. Not in my name son, faakin French anfem? faakin disgustin' innit.Morons. Go and enjoy the game and if you don't enjoy others showing respect that's up to you, but moaning about others showing respect is weird.
Pancake Posted 20 November, 2015 Posted 20 November, 2015 What a bunch of absolute wet fannies we have on here, upset about the French national anthem being played. Not in my name son, faakin French anfem? faakin disgustin' innit.Morons. Go and enjoy the game and if you don't enjoy others showing respect that's up to you, but moaning about others showing respect is weird. What an odd reaction. No one is "upset" by the idea, and in pretty sure no one at all is rejecting it on xenophobic grounds. Still, if it lets you sound off and feel smug, crack on wee man.
brmbrm Posted 20 November, 2015 Posted 20 November, 2015 What an odd reaction. No one is "upset" by the idea, and in pretty sure no one at all is rejecting it on xenophobic grounds. Still, if it lets you sound off and feel smug, crack on wee man. Errr, read the posts above and you will find quite a few people are upset about this idea.
CB Fry Posted 20 November, 2015 Posted 20 November, 2015 What a bunch of absolute wet fannies we have on here, upset about the French national anthem being played. Not in my name son, faakin French anfem? faakin disgustin' innit.Morons. Go and enjoy the game and if you don't enjoy others showing respect that's up to you, but moaning about others showing respect is weird. 4.5/10.
doddisalegend Posted 20 November, 2015 Posted 20 November, 2015 What a bunch of absolute wet fannies we have on here, upset about the French national anthem being played. Not in my name son, faakin French anfem? faakin disgustin' innit.Morons. Go and enjoy the game and if you don't enjoy others showing respect that's up to you, but moaning about others showing respect is weird. Well the way I read it people do not have a problem showing respect only the way it's being done. The French are not the only country to suffer terror attacks eight days ago 43 people were killed by an Isis suicide bomber in the Lebanon, the Russian jet is now confirmed as being downed by an Isis bomb and last April Islamic militants killed 147 people in attack on a college in Kenya (particularly relevant seeing as the Kenyan captain is a Saints player) yet not one person has suggested playing their national anthems at the football games. We should be showing respect for all victims of terror attacks, with dare I say a traditional, minutes silence. Playing the French anthem runs the risk of suggesting that western victims are in same way more important than those killed else where IMO.
alehouseboys Posted 20 November, 2015 Posted 20 November, 2015 What a bunch of absolute wet fannies we have on here, upset about the French national anthem being played. Not in my name son, faakin French anfem? faakin disgustin' innit.Morons. Go and enjoy the game and if you don't enjoy others showing respect that's up to you, but moaning about others showing respect is weird. We've certainly got some hysterical tarts on here but it looks to me most on this thread are just suggesting it's not needed. No malice, no disgust, just not necessary. Everyone should just accept it's gonna happen, show respect and it may have been an idea to encourage applause while the anthem is played. Our fans are better at politely clapping than singing anyway.
Saint Without a Halo Posted 20 November, 2015 Posted 20 November, 2015 Disagree with the idea. It was right for Wembley. How about we have the Russian anthem for the plane in Sinai, the Kenyan, the Palestinian (if they have one), Lebanon? Think we're doing a minutes silence as well. Getting to the stage where it would be good to go to a game without any such thing. Absolutely right all of the above instances are terrorist atrocities and equally evil we cannot play everyone's national anthem every week and if we only recognise some we are being unfairly selective
alehouseboys Posted 20 November, 2015 Posted 20 November, 2015 I've just watched Arsene Wenger on BBC News looking slightly bemused it's gonna happen. He said a 'nice gesture' with a smirk but mentioned fans maybe won't get it and smirked again at the thought of God Save the Queen being played in France!
aintforever Posted 20 November, 2015 Posted 20 November, 2015 A bit over the top but it's a good anthem so I'm in. Plus, the fact that it is so over the top will send a big 'f*ck you' message to muslim extremists everywhere which has to be a good thing.
whelk Posted 20 November, 2015 Posted 20 November, 2015 Well the way I read it people do not have a problem showing respect only the way it's being done. The French are not the only country to suffer terror attacks eight days ago 43 people were killed by an Isis suicide bomber in the Lebanon, the Russian jet is now confirmed as being downed by an Isis bomb and last April Islamic militants killed 147 people in attack on a college in Kenya (particularly relevant seeing as the Kenyan captain is a Saints player) yet not one person has suggested playing their national anthems at the football games. We should be showing respect for all victims of terror attacks, with dare I say a traditional, minutes silence. Playing the French anthem runs the risk of suggesting that western victims are in same way more important than those killed else where IMO. This gets tiresome. Fact you can't comprehend the difference in impact of something happening in a western city on our doorstep and other atrocities. Frankly embarrassing point. Hey more people died in childbirth in Africa since the Paris attacks why don't people care about that? Fckin hipsters
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