Saint Rees Posted 23 November, 2015 Share Posted 23 November, 2015 When I was going in the turnstiles of Itchen North everyone was being scanned with one of those handheld metal detector things, but that was it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 23 November, 2015 Share Posted 23 November, 2015 Kingsland, didn't see anything different what so ever. The usual bag checks. As it was cold, lots of bulky coats could have had whatever underneath. I'm not sure how viable it is though, to search 30k people to stop them bringing anything in. You could stuff a grenade down your pants quite easily. I think that I have only been to one game where I went through 2 friskings overlooked by gun totting police. Still, the away supporters got their flares through and rained them down on the home support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 23 November, 2015 Share Posted 23 November, 2015 Firstly I queued outside the Itchen, there were two queues about fifty yards long. I worked my way towards the front watching stewards scanning at the front and others moving down the queue checking visible bags, so far so good. Then I got about ten people from the front, suddenly the scanners stopped and walked past the queue and everybody went in unscanned, so much for scanning. Another observation, the club provided the perfect opportunity for a bomb outside the stadium to kill a lot of people as they queued. Normally at 2.15 the numbers are light but with the queuing there was congestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 23 November, 2015 Share Posted 23 November, 2015 In the Chapel there was just the usual bag checks and there was a tennage female steward with a scanner just stood there doing nothing with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 23 November, 2015 Share Posted 23 November, 2015 Given the infamous letter I was expecting the itchen north gate security to be much tighter Saturday but it was exactly the same as any other game. I guess the club will get punished for the Stoke smoke bomb as I was their security that failed to stop it coming into SMS rather than Stoke? YOU were the security that let it in?? Get 'im lads!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 23 November, 2015 Share Posted 23 November, 2015 That is ********, the club can't just take people's laptops off them, that'll be a nightmare for midweek games. It's perfectly sensible, I don't understand why anyone would think you could even take one in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 23 November, 2015 Share Posted 23 November, 2015 Same with me, I travel down from work in London on midweek games and have never had any mention of it, I can't imagine I'm the only person who brings one with me for midweek games so they're going to end up needing a cloakroom if this becomes a new rule. Like the one Red Bull Salzburg have got outside their ground, presumably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 23 November, 2015 Share Posted 23 November, 2015 (edited) FWIW outside the Northam there was a steward with a handheld metal detector thing for body searches, but the rest of it was the same as usual. Queue about the same length too. Edited 23 November, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 23 November, 2015 Share Posted 23 November, 2015 No scanners or anything when I rocked up 2 minutes before kick off! Strolled straight in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 23 November, 2015 Share Posted 23 November, 2015 Tbf I would have thought given the current climate that it was common sense not to bring a laptop to the footie. Would have thought it was common sense not to call it "footie" either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 24 November, 2015 Share Posted 24 November, 2015 It's perfectly sensible, I don't understand why anyone would think you could even take one in. You've always been able to, what's the difference between a laptop and a tablet anywho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 November, 2015 Share Posted 24 November, 2015 You've always been able to, what's the difference between a laptop and a tablet anywho? Haven't you read all the recent stories about terrorists shooting and blowing people up with their laptops? Not like you're allowed to take them on trains, tubes, planes, pubs, restaurants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 November, 2015 Share Posted 24 November, 2015 It's perfectly sensible, I don't understand why anyone would think you could even take one in. Because they've always been able to take them in and plenty do on a regular basis. Your usual level of logic there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 November, 2015 Share Posted 24 November, 2015 Because they've always been able to take them in and plenty do on a regular basis. Your usual level of logic there. Logic which says if you're not sure you should be able to take something in (and it's a security concern elsewhere) then you should probably check or not be surprised if you can't. The security situation has changed, not surprising the rules might have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 24 November, 2015 Share Posted 24 November, 2015 It's perfectly sensible, I don't understand why anyone would think you could even take one in. Because they've always been able to take them in and plenty do on a regular basis. Your usual level of logic there. Logic which says if you're not sure you should be able to take something in (and it's a security concern elsewhere) then you should probably check or not be surprised if you can't. The security situation has changed, not surprising the rules might have. Think your "logic" is flawed there. The only reason for the situation to have changed is security concerns. Why is a laptop a risk but not a tablet or mobile?. Attempts have been made to blow up planes using explosives in a shoe and in underwear, So by your own "logic" it would be sensible if the club banned those too, no doubt you checked to make sure it was ok to be wearing both of those before you left home for the ground on Saturday, and wouldn't have been surprised if you'd been told barefoot commando was the only way to get in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 November, 2015 Share Posted 24 November, 2015 Think your "logic" is flawed there. The only reason for the situation to have changed is security concerns. Why is a laptop a risk but not a tablet or mobile?. Attempts have been made to blow up planes using explosives in a shoe and in underwear, So by your own "logic" it would be sensible if the club banned those too, no doubt you checked to make sure it was ok to be wearing both of those before you left home for the ground on Saturday, and wouldn't have been surprised if you'd been told barefoot commando was the only way to get in . They're all a risk to some degree, far more ridiculous things were banned even before the security concerns, and people shouldn't assume things that were ok before are still ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 24 November, 2015 Share Posted 24 November, 2015 They're all a risk to some degree, far more ridiculous things were banned even before the security concerns, and people shouldn't assume things that were ok before are still ok. So you DID phone before hand to check shoes and underwear are ok then? Or did you just assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 24 November, 2015 Share Posted 24 November, 2015 They're all a risk to some degree, far more ridiculous things were banned even before the security concerns, and people shouldn't assume things that were ok before are still ok. i think you are being deliberately awkward here, i've attended midweek games for a few seasons with a laptop bag, i work from different site and at home so can't leave my laptop at work, it was fine to take it in last month for Villa cup game so seems strange to me to suddenly not allow them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 November, 2015 Share Posted 24 November, 2015 So you DID phone before hand to check shoes and underwear are ok then? Or did you just assume? I do risk assessment as part of my job, so I used my professional expertise to calculate that there would be no problem with that. 1/10 btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 November, 2015 Share Posted 24 November, 2015 i think you are being deliberately awkward here, i've attended midweek games for a few seasons with a laptop bag, i work from different site and at home so can't leave my laptop at work, it was fine to take it in last month for Villa cup game so seems strange to me to suddenly not allow them. It seems strange that we might want to tighten security on items people can take into grounds following an attempted suicide bombing of a football match? Ok, I think that's very naive. Apart from anything I wouldn't personally want to take anything that might mean I had to go through a tedious bag search, etc. although I appreciate that isn't an option for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 November, 2015 Share Posted 24 November, 2015 FWIW the stupidest thing I've ever had "confiscated" outside a football ground is a bottle of suncream. This was in Portugal in 2004, when it was about 30 degrees. Compared to that, not allowing laptops in seems pretty sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 November, 2015 Share Posted 24 November, 2015 It's perfectly sensible, I don't understand why anyone would think you could even take one in. Logic which says if you're not sure you should be able to take something in (and it's a security concern elsewhere) then you should probably check or not be surprised if you can't. The security situation has changed, not surprising the rules might have. No, but you said you can't understand why anyone would even think why they could take one in. I (and others) gave the pretty obvious answer to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 November, 2015 Share Posted 24 November, 2015 No, but you said you can't understand why anyone would even think why they could take one in. I (and others) gave the pretty obvious answer to that. Ok, let me reword it to reflect a bit more of the detail behind that statement; "I can't understand why someone would not think the situation might be different now, and not consider that the items they could take into the ground might have changed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 November, 2015 Share Posted 24 November, 2015 If I'm honest I knew there would be tighter security this week and I did think namur what I was bringing in. Is that not what everyone did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 24 November, 2015 Share Posted 24 November, 2015 If I'm honest I knew there would be tighter security this week and I did think namur what I was bringing in. Is that not what everyone did? I usually take a bottle of water with me, but not this week. I was therefore, gutted that I didn't get frisked/scanned at the gate, even after I failed to get through the turnstile due to an idiot friend in front of me. Had to along to the next exit gate and get let in there, but again no search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 November, 2015 Share Posted 24 November, 2015 If I'm honest I knew there would be tighter security this week and I did think namur what I was bringing in. Is that not what everyone did? For me it was more about considering how to be as little hassle as possible to the security so they could get on with doing their checks without having to worry about everyone and possibly miss something. Of course everyone wearing thick winter coats didn't really help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 3 December, 2015 Share Posted 3 December, 2015 Got in with my laptop as normal for an evening game. What were the stewards and I thinking with this crazy, outlandish idea I'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr00031 Posted 3 December, 2015 Share Posted 3 December, 2015 The liverpool fans got a smoke thingie in... Obviously checks weren't that efficient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 December, 2015 Share Posted 3 December, 2015 Two home games in a row the away fans have brought smoke bombs in, and yet the home fans are the ones getting letters warning of possible closure of stands. Security should do their job if they're that worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie Posted 3 December, 2015 Share Posted 3 December, 2015 Two home games in a row the away fans have brought smoke bombs in, and yet the home fans are the ones getting letters warning of possible closure of stands. Security should do their job if they're that worried. the smoke bomb smelt nice though and I thought it added a bit of atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 December, 2015 Share Posted 3 December, 2015 the smoke bomb smelt nice though and I thought it added a bit of atmosphere. Got in my throat and nearly stopped me booing Lovren and Lallana for a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 3 December, 2015 Share Posted 3 December, 2015 They say its tighter security, but it was very poor. I joined a very short queue at the Northam turnstiles and ignored the metal detector queue. A steward at the turnstile then asked me... Steward: Have you been scanned with metal detector in that queue? Me: (looks at long queue) Yes Steward: Ok ...and in I went. Really is no point to the metal detectors and the queues they created if you can bypass it so easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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