Lighthouse Posted January 1 Posted January 1 7 minutes ago, pingpong said: Another opportunity to get your assumptions in early, but be quick, before the evidence or facts come in... The weather is sh*t but I'm not sure we can really blame that on the IRA.
hypochondriac Posted January 1 Posted January 1 21 minutes ago, pingpong said: Another opportunity to get your assumptions in early, but be quick, before the evidence or facts come in... It's America so just as likely to be a loon with a gun than an Islamist.
sadoldgit Posted January 1 Author Posted January 1 The FBI are saying that it is not terror related so that rules out “Islamists”.
The Kraken Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Local mayor says it’s a potential terrorist attack. And FBI confirmed there was an IED inside the truck. https://www.npr.org/2025/01/01/nx-s1-5244945/new-orleans-mass-casualties https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-orleans-vehicle-crash-bourbon-street-crowd-casualties-shooting/
The Kraken Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Picture of the truck released. Looks like he was flying a flag from the back of the truck.
Weston Super Saint Posted January 1 Posted January 1 1 hour ago, sadoldgit said: The FBI are saying that it is not terror related so that rules out “Islamists”. Racist prick. Other races, colours and creeds are capable of terrorism. 1
RedArmy Posted January 1 Posted January 1 1 hour ago, sadoldgit said: The FBI are saying that it is not terror related so that rules out “Islamists”.
badgerx16 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 20 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Racist prick. Other races, colours and creeds are capable of terrorism. What about Christians ?
Weston Super Saint Posted January 1 Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: What about Christians ? More than capable of terrorism.
whelk Posted January 1 Posted January 1 10 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: What about Christians ? Yeah they are constantly mowing down people out celebrating. I understand your desperation for equivalence 1
badgerx16 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 13 minutes ago, whelk said: Yeah they are constantly mowing down people out celebrating. I understand your desperation for equivalence Total misread. Well done. 1
Sarnia Cherie Posted January 1 Posted January 1 None of the accounts mention whether the police have shot or arrested him or if he's on the run. So much hatred in this world at the moment.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted January 1 Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said: None of the accounts mention whether the police have shot or arrested him or if he's on the run. So much hatred in this world at the moment. From Beeb Authorities have not confirmed the identity or nationality of the perpetrator in New Orleans. The FBI has confirmed the deadly attack is being investigated as an "act of terrorism" and the suspect is dead. 1
hypochondriac Posted January 1 Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Calling @sadoldgitto the thread.
hypochondriac Posted January 1 Posted January 1 3 hours ago, sadoldgit said: The FBI are saying that it is not terror related so that rules out “Islamists”.
Lord Duckhunter Posted January 1 Posted January 1 12 minutes ago, The Kraken said: That’s a turn up for the books.
whelk Posted January 1 Posted January 1 5 hours ago, pingpong said: Another opportunity to get your assumptions in early, but be quick, before the evidence or facts come in... Strange that some want to grasp on any information early on to rule out their side.
whelk Posted January 1 Posted January 1 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: Total misread. Well done. Sorry were you saying it with irony?
whelk Posted January 1 Posted January 1 15 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Calling @sadoldgitto the thread. He’s going to have guilt about that one he knocked out earlier
RedArmy Posted January 1 Posted January 1 3 hours ago, sadoldgit said: The FBI are saying that it is not terror related so that rules out “Islamists”. Well, well, well.
whelk Posted January 1 Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, RedArmy said: Well, well, well. Tbf the FBI woman did say that although straight after mayor said it was terror related
badgerx16 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 7 minutes ago, whelk said: Sorry were you saying it with irony? I was wearing my "pile on gang" badge. 2
The Kraken Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Rather predictably the guy sounds like a total crackpot. Got dressed up in full army combat gear, set fire to the house he was renting before he left (which had explosives inside), drove through the crowd until he crashed, then just opened fire until he was gunned down. America. Fuck yeah. 1
whelk Posted January 1 Posted January 1 We have been here before though where the righteous/thick cannot process previous information to identify as trend.
whelk Posted January 1 Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Rather predictably the guy sounds like a total crackpot. Got dressed up in full army combat gear, set fire to the house he was renting before he left (which had explosives inside), drove through the crowd until he crashed, then just opened fire until he was gunned down. America. Fuck yeah. At least they now have a president who will overnight stop this sort of thing. 1
hypochondriac Posted January 1 Posted January 1 11 minutes ago, whelk said: Strange that some want to grasp on any information early on to rule out their side. Remember it's evil and prejudiced to hear about a car mowing down innocent people over the Christmas period and speculate that he perpetrator is statistically very likely to be an Islamist. Did we find out if this was the case for the bloke in Germany by the way?
badgerx16 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Remember it's evil and prejudiced to hear about a car mowing down innocent people over the Christmas period and speculate that he perpetrator is statistically very likely to be an Islamist. Did we find out if this was the case for the bloke in Germany by the way? I thought the story was that he was an anti-Islamist atheist. 1
hypochondriac Posted January 1 Posted January 1 On 21/12/2024 at 17:17, hypochondriac said: "looking at historical data it is overwhelmingly likely that the perpetrator of this Christmas Market attack is an Islamist nutter" is a completely non controversial statement. Making a reasonable prediction on a web forum before it's confirmed is completely fair. I'm also happy to say that the next person who rams their car into a Christmas market is also overwhelmingly likely to be an Islamist nutter too because these types of attacks are almost always committed by these types of people. Same thing if someone blows themselves up on a bus or on the tube. If we were in the 80s or early 90s I'd be saying that if I saw a bombing on UK streets it would probably be some nutter from the IRA. Sorry the truth upsets you. Probably worth highlighting this post from last week. I'm happy to make another amazing prediction that the next attack like this will also be an Islamist nutter. Just call me nostradamus.
hypochondriac Posted January 1 Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: I thought the story was that he was an anti-Islamist atheist. Last I heard this wasn't conclusive with significant contradictions on his social media postings. I haven't looked into it too much though so didn't know if there had been an update.
Gloucester Saint Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) 6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Last I heard this wasn't conclusive with significant contradictions on his social media postings. I haven't looked into it too much though so didn't know if there had been an update. Known AFD supporter but sounds like with mental illness he didn’t know what the fuck he actually was angry about https://www.cbsnews.com/news/germany-christmas-market-attack-suspect-mental-illness/ Usual suspects in Germany and Musk still saw it as a gift https://www.politico.eu/article/magdeburg-christmas-market-attack-europe-far-right-elon-musk/ Edited January 1 by Gloucester Saint
hypochondriac Posted January 1 Posted January 1 9 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: Known AFD supporter but sounds like with mental illness he didn’t know what the fuck he actually was angry about https://www.cbsnews.com/news/germany-christmas-market-attack-suspect-mental-illness/ Usual suspects in Germany and Musk still saw it as a gift https://www.politico.eu/article/magdeburg-christmas-market-attack-europe-far-right-elon-musk/ Thanks. So according to that first link he's potentially someone mentally ill who isn't part of any particular group who chose to emulate a method of killing almost exclusively preserved for Islamist nutters. Doesn't sound like there was much that German authorities could have done to prevent it sadly other than erecting more festive bollards. 1
egg Posted January 1 Posted January 1 31 minutes ago, whelk said: We have been here before though where the righteous/thick cannot process previous information to identify as trend. The issue is people assuming before any details are known. There's a few who rush to blame Islamists before knowing whether the perpetrator was indeed Muslim. Some may say that's a reasonable assumption, others see it differently. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted January 1 Posted January 1 12 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Thanks. So according to that first link he's potentially someone mentally ill who isn't part of any particular group who chose to emulate a method of killing almost exclusively preserved for Islamist nutters. Doesn't sound like there was much that German authorities could have done to prevent it sadly other than erecting more festive bollards. There’s been a bit of internal wrangling about whether the barriers were set up quite as originally intended at the market itself just prior to Christmas from a security vs trading perspective. Not seen any more since. 2
hypochondriac Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) 17 minutes ago, egg said: The issue is people assuming before any details are known. There's a few who rush to blame Islamists before knowing whether the perpetrator was indeed Muslim. Some may say that's a reasonable assumption, others see it differently. But details were known. I'd appreciate a completely honest reply. When you hear around Christmas time that a potential terror attack has occurred that involves someone mowing down people in a car, are you honestly telling me hand on heart that it would be impossible for you to make an assumption that the perpetrator is likely an Islamist? Because I know you're not unintelligent. To butcher an analogy slightly: If you put your hand into a biscuit tin and pulled out a cookie 95% of the time, it would be a completely reasonable assumption that the next biscuit you take out is incredibly likely to be a cookie yes? Even if it turns out to be a digestive that you pull out next, your reasonable assumption is still not incorrect. How is this style of terror attack at this time of year any different? Edited January 1 by hypochondriac 1
hypochondriac Posted January 1 Posted January 1 6 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: There’s been a bit of internal wrangling about whether the barriers were set up quite as originally intended at the market itself just prior to Christmas from a security vs trading perspective. Not seen any more since. How terrible and depressing is it that these conversations even have to be had. Bollards of peace indeed. 1
pingpong Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Why are estate agents all so nasty? Surely there should be a gap in the market for a trustworthy estate agency, but it seems it's not profitable.
egg Posted January 1 Posted January 1 7 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: But details were known. I'd appreciate a completely honest reply. When you hear around Christmas time that a potential terror attack has occurred that involves someone mowing down people in a car, are you honestly telling me hand on heart that it would be impossible for you to make an assumption that the perpetrator is likely an Islamist? Because I know you're not unintelligent. If you put your hand into a biscuit tin and pulled out a cookie 95% of the time, it would be a completely reasonable assumption that the next biscuit you take out is incredibly likely to be a cookie yes? Even if it turns out to be a digestive that you pull out next, your reasonable assumption is still not incorrect. How is this style of terror attack at this time of year any different? That's untrue. You did not know whether the German guy was brown/white or whatever before you jumped in. To be fair, you showed a little restraint this time. I rely on facts/evidence on a case by case basis. You make assumptions, and you protest too much as to why. 1
aintforever Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Looks like the bloke responsible is a U.S. citizen who has served in the army. 1
hypochondriac Posted January 1 Posted January 1 11 minutes ago, egg said: That's untrue. You did not know whether the German guy was brown/white or whatever before you jumped in. To be fair, you showed a little restraint this time. I rely on facts/evidence on a case by case basis. You make assumptions, and you protest too much as to why. Sigh. I thought I asked politely as well but you've just ignored my entire post. What a shame.
Gloucester Saint Posted January 1 Posted January 1 9 minutes ago, benjii said: Trump ranting about illegal immigrants. Prick. Seems as if he is ‘one of their own’ to coin the football song. Indy the only major outlet to confirm the ISIS flag initially but CBS now saying it via the FBI https://www.nbcnews.com/video/fbi-confirms-isis-flag-was-on-vehicle-in-new-orleans-truck-attack-228275269955
whelk Posted January 1 Posted January 1 37 minutes ago, egg said: The issue is people assuming before any details are known. There's a few who rush to blame Islamists before knowing whether the perpetrator was indeed Muslim. Some may say that's a reasonable assumption, others see it differently. You lot would make appalling detectives
aintforever Posted January 1 Posted January 1 “When I said that the criminals coming in are far worse than the criminals we have in our country, that statement was constantly refuted by Democrats and the Fake News Media, but it turned out to be true. The crime rate in our country is at a level that nobody has ever seen before. Our hearts are with all of the innocent victims and their loved ones, including the brave officers of the New Orleans Police Department. The Trump Administration will fully support the City of New Orleans as they investigate and recover from this act of pure evil!” Trump would fit in round here.
egg Posted January 1 Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Sigh. I thought I asked politely as well but you've just ignored my entire post. What a shame. Manners have nothing to do with you rushing to blame a group of people before awaiting even the basic facts. I didn't realise you actually expected a comment on your daft mcvities analogy.
whelk Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Just now, egg said: Manners have nothing to do with you rushing to blame a group of people before awaiting even the basic facts. I didn't realise you actually expected a comment on your daft mcvities analogy. I thought you liked biscuit examples 1 1
Weston Super Saint Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) 1 minute ago, egg said: Manners have nothing to do with you rushing to blame a group of people before awaiting even the basic facts. I didn't realise you actually expected a comment on your daft mcvities analogy. Weren't the basic facts : nutter drives car, at speed, into crowded Christmas market killing people innocently going about their business? Edited January 1 by Weston Super Saint
whelk Posted January 1 Posted January 1 1 minute ago, aintforever said: Trump would fit in round here. lol -remember to make sure you are in the good camp pal
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