LGTL Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 At least we can trust May to sort it, she only had 6 years as Home Secretary. Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 At least we can trust May to sort it, she only had 6 years as Home Secretary. Oh. You're right, let's let Corbyn have a go. I'm sure he can sit down and stop all of this by talking to them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 You're right, let's let Corbyn have a go. I'm sure he can sit down and stop all of this by talking to them... As if Corbyn or any of his useless pals are the answer. Neither is May though, and there lies the problem not just for this but for just about every other issue too. We are in what's known as a competent political vacuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 As if Corbyn or any of his useless pals are the answer. Neither is May though, and there lies the problem not just for this but for just about every other issue too. We are in what's known as a competent political vacuum. I agree, however unless something dramictially changes, which would seem unlikely, May is the the only realistic option. The lesser of two evils as some might say. God, the political situation in the country is currently a shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 (edited) PM "to be frank, there is far too much tolerance of islamic extremism in our country" No Jamie, she didn't say islamic extremism. She said islamist extremism, the latter she called a "perversion of Islam". She then banged on about military and policing solutions being inadequate in isolation and emphasising the need to win hearts and minds. Pretty much what Soggy has been arguing. What are you cooking for lunch? Edited 4 June, 2017 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 No Jamie, she didn't say islamic extremism. She said islamist extremism, the latter she called a "perversion of Islam". She then banged on about military and policing solutions being inadequate and emphasising the need to win hearts and minds. Pretty much what Soggy has been arguing. What are you cooking for lunch? what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 A good speech I thought, slight optimism that things may now change (finally they have woken up and finally admitted that this is related to Islam). I guess actions speak louder than words, however. You did listen to the speech, didn't you? Admit it, you don't know whether you're coming or going, little fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 As if Corbyn or any of his useless pals are the answer. Neither is May though, and there lies the problem not just for this but for just about every other issue too. We are in what's known as a competent political vacuum. Agree with that. We need a new political party with someone charismatic that people will actually. Vote for - not Blair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 No Jamie, she didn't say islamic extremism. She said islamist extremism, the latter she called a "perversion of Islam". She then banged on about military and policing solutions being inadequate and emphasising the need to win hearts and minds. Pretty much what Soggy has been arguing. What are you cooking for lunch? Interesting because when nuttal used the word Islamist in the debate last week he was shouted down with derision and cries of racism. Double standards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 Interesting because when nuttal used the word Islamist in the debate last week he was shouted down with derision and cries of racism. Double standards? Are you sure? Welcome some proof as he tends to use 'Islamic' (see his interview with Neil). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 what? Whatever you're cooking, Casey, let's hope it's more successful than this morning's contributions on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 Whatever you're cooking, Casey, let's hope it's more successful than this morning's contributions on here. what has my cooking got to do with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 As if Corbyn or any of his useless pals are the answer. Neither is May though, and there lies the problem not just for this but for just about every other issue too. We are in what's known as a competent political vacuum. May is poor, but clearly better than Corbyn, McDonnel and Abbott, so I assume you'll be voting Conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 what has my cooking got to do with anything? He's trying some banter the poor lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 June 1940: we shall defend our island whatever the cost may be June 2017: run, tell, hide How times have changed... Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 June, 2017 Author Share Posted 4 June, 2017 No Jamie, she didn't say islamic extremism. She said islamist extremism, the latter she called a "perversion of Islam". She then banged on about military and policing solutions being inadequate and emphasising the need to win hearts and minds. Pretty much what Soggy has been arguing. What are you cooking for lunch? Indeed. What we are doing is clearly not working and we need to do something different. A change in foreign policy would be a start. Corbyn can do no worse and I can't understand why some people believe that May is our only hope when she and her like are part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 You did listen to the speech, didn't you? Admit it, you don't know whether you're coming or going, little fella I know I won't sit back and watch Islam distroy this country, unlike yourself and all your tolerant friensd who think 'peace and love' will sort out all the worlds issues. Let's be honest, multiculturalism doesn't work. We are starting to see the results of letting these in 40/50 years ago. it's too late to change that now, however we need to take action to prevent further issues happening again. Deport those who are on the terror watch list (if they're born in this country, deport them to where their parents / grandparent come from) and / or build a specialist prison (for white brittish converts) to hold these (in solitary confinement, to prevent gangs and further radicilastion). **** PC, put this country first, for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 June 1940: we shall defend our island whatever the cost may be June 2017: run, tell, hide How times have changed... Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Apart from evacuating our army from Dunkirk, then evacuating children to Scotland from the major cities. Still, if ISIS ever get their hands on a Junkers 88, I will happily sign up to man a flak cannon. Indeed. What we are doing is clearly not working and we need to do something different. A change in foreign policy would be a start. Corbyn can do no worse and I can't understand why some people believe that May is our only hope when she and her like are part of the problem. If you think Corbyn could do no worse than this, you are deluded. I'd bet 90% of the world would give anything to live in a country as peaceful as Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 June 1940: we shall defend our island whatever the cost may be June 2017: run, tell, hide How times have changed... Course they have Johnny, course they have. Back in the good old days people would stay in the open and get killed, not take wimpy cover. About this ****wit thing, real or pretend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 I know I won't sit back and watch Islam distroy this country, unlike yourself and all your tolerant friensd who think 'peace and love' will sort out all the worlds issues. Let's be honest, multiculturalism doesn't work. We are starting to see the results of letting these in 40/50 years ago. it's too late to change that now, however we need to take action to prevent further issues happening again. Deport those who are on the terror watch list (if they're born in this country, deport them to where their parents / grandparent come from) and / or build a specialist prison (for white brittish converts) to hold these (in solitary confinement, to prevent gangs and further radicilastion). **** PC, put this country first, for once. That's far too much like a common sense solution. I don't disagree with you though,but just watch all the simpering liberals scurry around bleating about human rights etc. It's nothing to do with Islam, nothing to do with migration etc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 Whatever you're cooking, Casey, let's hope it's more successful than this morning's contributions on here. Are you making references to Under Seige? If so, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 As long as the government won't admit there's a problem with Islam, the problem won't go away and can't be fought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 Funny how Corbyn is getting it about keeping us safe from likes if Boris Johnson. These cnts won't with their cuts. And all the little right wing mugs swallowing it up that our police are the most effective they have ever been. Will wager not one of them knows anyone in the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 I know I won't sit back and watch Islam distroy this country, unlike yourself and all your tolerant friensd who think 'peace and love' will sort out all the worlds issues. Let's be honest, multiculturalism doesn't work. We are starting to see the results of letting these in 40/50 years ago. it's too late to change that now, however we need to take action to prevent further issues happening again. Deport those who are on the terror watch list (if they're born in this country, deport them to where their parents / grandparent come from) and / or build a specialist prison (for white brittish converts) to hold these (in solitary confinement, to prevent gangs and further radicilastion). **** PC, put this country first, for once. I'd happily round up all those on the terror list and throw them out in the ocean but it doesn't work as simple as that unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van Hanegem Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 Any returning fighters from IS should be stripped of their citizenship and removed from the country Or do it the French way: https://www.wsj.com/articles/frances-special-forces-hunt-french-militants-fighting-for-islamic-state-1496090116 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 Tough on terrorism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 Or do it the French way: https://www.wsj.com/articles/frances-special-forces-hunt-french-militants-fighting-for-islamic-state-1496090116 "Be more like the French" -that's what this bloke argued too back in 2013. Things worked out well for France, didn't they? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10025512/France-shows-us-how-to-deal-with-jihadis.html France shows us how to deal with jihadis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 Tough on terrorism we all know thats true but doubt if thats going to change and if may was any good she would reinstate the 20,000 police she has cut ,at least corbyns going to put 10,000 back ,very much doubt she will thow and needs to give the police the resorces and budget to keep eyes on these extremists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 Indeed. What we are doing is clearly not working and we need to do something different. A change in foreign policy would be a start. Corbyn can do no worse and I can't understand why some people believe that May is our only hope when she and her like are part of the problem. Corbyn and Sadoldgit's message to terrorists; "Kill and butcher enough of our innocent kids, civilians, policeman and we'll change our foreign policy to whatever you want". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 Tough on terrorism Thanks May. At least Corbyn talks tough on Saudi Arabia which everyone knows is the source of all these problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 June 1940: we shall defend our island whatever the cost may be June 2017: run, tell, hide How times have changed... Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Haha, not like all the cities got evacuated, lights all turned off at night, bomb shelters to hide in. Actually when a bomb fell everyone ran towards it screaming "come on then!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 I know I won't sit back and watch Islam distroy this country, unlike yourself and all your tolerant friensd who think 'peace and love' will sort out all the worlds issues. Let's be honest, multiculturalism doesn't work. We are starting to see the results of letting these in 40/50 years ago. it's too late to change that now, however we need to take action to prevent further issues happening again. Deport those who are on the terror watch list (if they're born in this country, deport them to where their parents / grandparent come from) and / or build a specialist prison (for white brittish converts) to hold these (in solitary confinement, to prevent gangs and further radicilastion). **** PC, put this country first, for once. If you really think this country will be distroyed by immigration there's no hope for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 June 1940: we shall defend our island whatever the cost may be June 2017: run, tell, hide How times have changed... Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van Hanegem Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 "Be more like the French" -that's what this bloke argued too back in 2013. Things worked out well for France, didn't they? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10025512/France-shows-us-how-to-deal-with-jihadis.html Nope, I'm not saying you should be more like the French. But trying to prevent the idiots from ISIS coming back to your country could be done in a more proactively way. Or do you want them to come back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 (edited) Nope, I'm not saying you should be more like the French. But trying to prevent the idiots from ISIS coming back to your country could be done in a more proactively way. Or do you want them to come back? It depends. Would treat things on a case-by-case basis. Many have blood on their hands and there are strong arguments they shouldn't be let back in; however, there will be some disillusioned returnees who were peripheral figures and can be rehabilitated as well as potentially used for counterintelligence and counternarrative purposes. Of course, accurately gauging the threat posed by individual returnees is very difficult, so arguably, any approach should veer on the side of caution. Edited 4 June, 2017 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 Was it the Police? Thought the SAS were on the scene first? Looks like first on the scene was an ordinary bobby from the BTP. Oh look, they have had cuts... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/george-osborne-accused-of-risking-security-by-cutting-3m-from-british-transport-police-a6870891.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 (edited) If you really think this country will be distroyed by immigration there's no hope for you. Not all immigration, just those who do not want to integrate with British society, and accept our values... I.e Islamic immigration. I wouldn't dream of moving to a country in the ME and expect them to change to my Christian/western values. P.s I think Islamic immigration has already distoryed this country. Just look at the 3 attacks in 3 months, and I bet all 3 are 'British citizens'.... Edited 4 June, 2017 by SKD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 Not all immigration, just those who do not want to integrate with British society, and accept our values... I.e Islamic immigration. I wouldn't dream of moving to a country in the ME and expect them to change to my Christian/western values. P.s I think Islamic immigration has already distorted this country. Just look at the 3 attacks in 3 months, and I bet all 3 are 'British citizens'.... It will never distroy this country though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van Hanegem Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 It depends. Would treat things on a case-by-case basis. Many have blood on their hands and there are strong arguments they shouldn't be let back in; however, there will be some disillusioned returnees who were peripheral figures and can be rehabilitated as well as potentially used for counterintelligence and counternarrative purposes. Of course, accurately gauging the threat posed by individual returnees is very difficult, so arguably, any approach should veer on the side of caution. Agreed, there are some who went there not to fight but to help the civilians and got disillusioned by what they saw. Some went because they believed it's mandatory for muslims to settle themselves in a caliphate as soon as this is possible. But as I understand the French Special Forces are hunting down the ones who are actively fighting for ISIS and in my opinion that's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 You're right, that'll be the tolerant left that do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 You're right, that'll be the tolerant left that do that. Thanks for the input Adolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 Bravery and duty personified. Last night's seriously injured bobby confronted the three machete-wielding nutters armed only with his truncheon. I hope he recovers. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/04/incredibly-brave-stabbed-police-officer-fought-attackers-armed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 It will never distroy this country though. Correct They've got absolutely no chance of doing that. Hitler was an existential threat to us and at times it looked like we could face defeat, 23,000 mad Islamic half wits have no chance. All they can do is cause massive heartache & pain for a small number of people & change our way of life slightly. Israel manages to survive despite a hell of a lot more. We'll probably face hundreds if not thousands of innocent deaths in the next 20 years, but 99.9% of us will not be anywhere near any sort of danger. Ours is probably the safest & most tolerant country in the world for all sorts of different religions & beliefs,and I believe it will remain so, provided the authorities take people's concerns seriously. We are an island, it beggars belief that people can slip back into the country after fighting for ISIS. Anybody coming back from these areas needs to be locked up and interrogated until they prove their trip was valid. These people on the watch list similar, they should prove they are not a threat to us, not us prove they are. I'd like to see more armed police, more border guards,ID cards and more powers to tap people's phones & monitor their internet. We need to ban all faith schools & abandon this multi cultural pony. Within a generation West Indians & other early immigrants became British, not by being ghettoised, but by embracing & adding to British culture. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 The same PM who made a pig's ear of the UK Border Force and the same party that has consistently opposed ID cards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 One of the 3 attackers was reported to the authorities by a friend because of his extremist views. It doesn't appear that they were ever spoken to or arrested after that - this was the assumption of the person who reported them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3719539/sick-isis-thugs-celebrate-attack-which-has-left-seven-dead-and-dozens-injured/ Are these mongs for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 Fill the barstewards brains with electronic ID cells and deport them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 https://www.indy100.com/article/british-fighters-syria-isis-kurds-ypg-jeremy-corbyn-vote-labour-election-2017-7771246 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 https://www.indy100.com/article/british-fighters-syria-isis-kurds-ypg-jeremy-corbyn-vote-labour-election-2017-7771246 Socialist fighters, fighting for socialism, want us to vote for a socialist... In other news, it has been found that bears like to take a dump in the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 4 June, 2017 Share Posted 4 June, 2017 What do you already know Baldrick? I aint doing your job for you, me old pedigree chum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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