Terrorist Attacks - WARNING: CONTAINS DISTRESSING IMAGES

[badgerx16]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-68822846

'"I never falsely suggested anything," Simeon Boikov tells me.

Under the alter ego "Aussie Cossack", he posted untrue speculation that a 20-year-old Jewish university student was the attacker who had stabbed and killed five women and one man at a Westfield shopping centre in Sydney.

He said on X: "Unconfirmed reports identify the Bondi attacker as Benjamin Cohen. Cohen? Really? And to think so many commentators tried to initially blame Muslims ''

[Weston Super Saint]

  On 15/04/2024 at 11:12, sadoldgit said:

Not only were the Sydney police quick to dispel any idea that the motive of the attack was extremist terrorism (if anything he was targeting women) but here is the kicker, the one male killed was security guard Faraz Tahir. Faraz was a Muslim immigrant from Pakistan. You won’t hear that from Batman though.

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Why did you feel the need to bring his religion into it?

It's clear that the ONLY reason he was killed was because he was a security guard in the shopping centre were a nutter was trying to kill people.  He was trying to do his job.

[whelk]

Funny how assumptions are now seen to be something people should be cancelled for. Same people who clamour for it probably claim they cannot tell black people from white people as they have such a pure mindset

[Weston Super Saint]

  On 15/04/2024 at 12:25, badgerx16 said:

Another stabbing in Sydney  this time a bishop in his church was the target, and several others injured tackling the attacker.

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I'm going to make an assumption that this one was more likely to be a Muslim versus Jews incident...

 

[badgerx16]

  On 16/04/2024 at 08:21, Weston Super Saint said:

I'm going to make an assumption that this one was more likely to be a Muslim versus Jews incident...

 

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Did your twitter feed suggest that ? 😉

[Weston Super Saint]

  On 16/04/2024 at 08:24, badgerx16 said:

Did your twitter feed suggest that ? 😉

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Nope. I don't have one.

I guess it's just my natural racism to assume that a priest in an orthodox church being attacked by someone who the police are going to great measures not to release the religion of, whilst confirming the attack was a terrorist incident, will eventually be confirmed as a Muslim.

It could be something else though.

[badgerx16]

  On 16/04/2024 at 08:33, Weston Super Saint said:

Nope. I don't have one.

I guess it's just my natural racism to assume that a priest in an orthodox church being attacked by someone who the police are going to great measures not to release the religion of, whilst confirming the attack was a terrorist incident, will eventually be confirmed as a Muslim.

It could be something else though.

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Given the reported differences between the Bishop and other factions of the Assyrian Orthodox Church I am wondering if this is more of a "domestic'. Certainly, the Police are saying the lad has a history of knife offences.

[sadoldgit]

  On 16/04/2024 at 08:33, Weston Super Saint said:

Nope. I don't have one.

I guess it's just my natural racism to assume that a priest in an orthodox church being attacked by someone who the police are going to great measures not to release the religion of, whilst confirming the attack was a terrorist incident, will eventually be confirmed as a Muslim.

It could be something else though.

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What is more concerning to you? The possible religion of a psycho 15 year old or the possible genocide we are witnessing in Gaza? If this boy is found to be a Muslim, does that mitigate the IDFs actions against tens of thousands of innocent civilians?

[Turkish]

  On 16/04/2024 at 09:24, sadoldgit said:

What is more concerning to you? The possible religion of a psycho 15 year old or the possible genocide we are witnessing in Gaza? If this boy is found to be a Muslim, does that mitigate the IDFs actions against tens of thousands of innocent civilians?

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what a fucking stupid question. You really are an oddball. 

[egg]

  On 16/04/2024 at 08:33, Weston Super Saint said:

Nope. I don't have one.

I guess it's just my natural racism to assume that a priest in an orthodox church being attacked by someone who the police are going to great measures not to release the religion of, whilst confirming the attack was a terrorist incident, will eventually be confirmed as a Muslim.

It could be something else though.

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So having asked SoG why he felt the need to introduce religion, why have you?

I'll wait to see what the facts are before making any assumptions about the assailant. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

  On 16/04/2024 at 09:44, Turkish said:

what a fucking stupid question. You really are an oddball. 

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What are you more concerned with, an oddball on a forum or millions of starving African’s? 

[Weston Super Saint]

  On 16/04/2024 at 09:24, sadoldgit said:

What is more concerning to you? The possible religion of a psycho 15 year old or the possible genocide we are witnessing in Gaza? If this boy is found to be a Muslim, does that mitigate the IDFs actions against tens of thousands of innocent civilians?

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The first, definitely the first. If that's not the same for everyone else, they need their heads looking at.

P.s there's already a thread for your sanctimonious Gaza lectures, please try and keep them there.

[Weston Super Saint]

  On 16/04/2024 at 09:57, egg said:

So having asked SoG why he felt the need to introduce religion, why have you?

I'll wait to see what the facts are before making any assumptions about the assailant. 

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Because the person attacked was a priest, who was doing his job - being a priest!

That job and religion go hand in hand and one can't exist without the other.

Surely you can recognise that religion in that context is enormously different to which religion a security guard in a shopping mall might practice?

[Turkish]

  On 16/04/2024 at 10:40, Lord Duckhunter said:

What are you more concerned with, an oddball on a forum or millions of starving African’s? 

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whichever enables me to be most pious on a football forum.

Edited 16 April, 2024 by Turkish

[whelk]

I hope there will be no celebration of any Saints goals tonight given the serious issues going on in the Middle East

[egg]

  On 16/04/2024 at 10:47, Weston Super Saint said:

Because the person attacked was a priest, who was doing his job - being a priest!

That job and religion go hand in hand and one can't exist without the other.

Surely you can recognise that religion in that context is enormously different to which religion a security guard in a shopping mall might practice?

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That's the religion of the victim. You also mentioned the possibile religion of the perpetrator. If it's relevant, we'll be told. 

[Weston Super Saint]

  On 16/04/2024 at 11:28, egg said:

That's the religion of the victim. You also mentioned the possibile religion of the perpetrator. If it's relevant, we'll be told. 

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My comment to soggy was regarding the religion of the victim, which wasn't relevant.

The religion of the perpetrator is assumed given the police have called it a terrorist act, which would make it very relevant.

Not sure why you are confused by this, the two attacks are not the same.

[Fan The Flames]

  On 16/04/2024 at 08:01, Weston Super Saint said:

He was trying to do his job.

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A side issue, but it's not a shopping center security guard's job to defend against an knife attacker. Just saying.

[Weston Super Saint]

  On 16/04/2024 at 12:19, Fan The Flames said:

A side issue, but it's not a shopping center security guard's job to defend against an knife attacker. Just saying.

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Very true.  Not sure anyone has claimed it is.  The only reason he was involved is because he happened to be at work when the nutter attacked people. Just saying.

[saintsdan]

  On 16/04/2024 at 08:21, Weston Super Saint said:

I'm going to make an assumption that this one was more likely to be a Muslim versus Jews incident...

 

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I suspect a Bishop in the Assyrian Orthodox Church would be Christian...

[Weston Super Saint]

  On 16/04/2024 at 17:41, saintsdan said:

I suspect a Bishop in the Assyrian Orthodox Church would be Christian...

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I suspect you're right - I missed that bit when I read it earlier and just saw 'orthodox'.

Still, I guess that leaves the Muslim versus Christian millennia old feud or the similarly aged Christian on Christian fight!

[whelk]

How the hell does the stabbing nutter in Germany evade capture amongst thousands of people?

[Gloucester Saint]

Magdeburg Christmas market - lunatic driving into a crowd. One confirmed deceased but given some of the reports are saying around 60 struck in total, that tragically appears like to increase.

Driver arrested, identity should be released shortly I’d have thought https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c1j08p44w9kt

[hypochondriac]

  On 20/12/2024 at 20:14, Gloucester Saint said:

Magdeburg Christmas market - lunatic driving into a crowd. One confirmed deceased but given some of the reports are saying around 60 struck in total, that tragically appears like to increase.

Driver arrested, identity should be released shortly I’d have thought https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c1j08p44w9kt

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I saw ten dead. Sadly it's that time of year and normally it's one ideology to blame. 

[Gloucester Saint]

  On 20/12/2024 at 20:20, hypochondriac said:

I saw ten dead. Sadly it's that time of year and normally it's one ideology to blame. 

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Time will tell but it does have all of the hallmarks at this stage.

[whelk]

  On 20/12/2024 at 20:20, hypochondriac said:

I saw ten dead. Sadly it's that time of year and normally it's one ideology to blame. 

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Yes only going to be one sort of type responsible for this.

[whelk]

Just seen some footage. That car was going some speed. Hope they are pouring sulphuric acid down the cunt’s throat and his family 

[SotonianWill]

Depressing news. A child is one of those who’ve been confirmed dead. Just before Christmas. 

[hypochondriac]

  On 20/12/2024 at 20:56, whelk said:

Just seen some footage. That car was going some speed. Hope they are pouring sulphuric acid down the cunt’s throat and his family 

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I saw it too it was absolutely terrible. I despise these people and particularly the evil ideology that inspires them. 

[badgerx16]

Being reported the suspect is a doctor, originally from Saudi Arabia.

[whelk]

  On 20/12/2024 at 22:26, badgerx16 said:

Being reported the suspect is a doctor, originally from Saudi Arabia.

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Any guesses what his religion may be?

Edited 20 December, 2024 by whelk

[hypochondriac]

  On 20/12/2024 at 22:28, whelk said:

Any guesses what his religion may be?

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[Gloucester Saint]

  On 20/12/2024 at 22:19, hypochondriac said:

I saw it too it was absolutely terrible. I despise these people and particularly the evil ideology that inspires them. 

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It’s pure racist hate. Same as a white supremacist nail bombing a mosque. That’s racist, vile, unacceptable, so is this, and it’s equally racist. 

[hypochondriac]

  On 20/12/2024 at 23:05, Gloucester Saint said:

It’s pure racist hate. Same as a white supremacist nail bombing a mosque. That’s racist, vile, unacceptable, so is this, and it’s equally racist. 

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It is. Problem is extremist Islam is responsible for vastly more mass terror attacks than anything else. 

[Gloucester Saint]

  On 20/12/2024 at 22:26, badgerx16 said:

Being reported the suspect is a doctor, originally from Saudi Arabia.

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50 years old as well, really no excuses for engaging in Islamist or any other extremism at his age and professional status. Hopefully the internal prison security will be nice and lax when he gets there. 

Edited 21 December, 2024 by Gloucester Saint

[sadoldgit]

  On 20/12/2024 at 20:20, hypochondriac said:

I saw ten dead. Sadly it's that time of year and normally it's one ideology to blame. 

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People are killed every day of the week. Is “one ideology” responsible for them all? You don’t seem to have the same problem when other “ideologies” kill other people.

You seem to be completely (maybe wilfully) unable to determine the difference between “ideologies” and extremists who use ideologies for there own agendas. 

Edited 21 December, 2024 by sadoldgit

[aintforever]

The Mail is reporting that the scumbag who did it is ‘an anti-Islam, AfD-supporting doctor’. Probably best not to speculate about motive until the facts are known tho.

[hypochondriac]

  On 21/12/2024 at 00:26, sadoldgit said:

People are killed every day of the week. Is “one ideology” responsible for them all? You don’t seem to have the same problem when other “ideologies” kill other people.

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Muslims make up 6.5% of the UK population yet are responsible for 67% of terror attacks in the UK since 2018. Have a think why someone might have a problem with that. 

[hypochondriac]

  On 21/12/2024 at 00:30, aintforever said:

The Mail is reporting that the scumbag who did it is ‘an anti-Islam, AfD-supporting doctor’. Probably best not to speculate about motive until the facts are known tho.

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It's very rare for someone to ram cars into a Christmas Market who isn't an extremist Islamic nutter (has an attack of this nature ever happened before where an Islamist isn't the culprit?). If true that it has nothing to do with Islam then that's very surprising but it would also be a real anomaly for attacks of this nature and I'd be interested to see his motives. 

[sadoldgit]

  On 21/12/2024 at 00:32, hypochondriac said:

Muslims make up 6.5% of the UK population yet are responsible for 67% of terror attacks in the UK since 2018. Have a think why someone might have a problem with that. 

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And maybe have a think why you immediately jump to the conclusion that every attack like this is a) a terror related attack and b) is Muslim related. 
You clearly don’t have a problem with the butchery we have seen against innocent Muslim people in Gaza in the last 2 years - over 40,000 so far. In fact you actually think it is ok to post laughing emojis after posts relating to those deaths. We know nothing yet about the motives of this person but we know the motives of Netanyahu. As long as he attacks Muslims that is fine by you?

[sadoldgit]

  On 21/12/2024 at 00:34, hypochondriac said:

It's very rare for someone to ram cars into a Christmas Market who isn't an extremist Islamic nutter (has an attack of this nature ever happened before where an Islamist isn't the culprit?). If true that it has nothing to do with Islam then that's very surprising but it would also be a real anomaly for attacks of this nature and I'd be interested to see his motives. 

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Haven’t you already decided that he is an “Islamist”? Do you understand that not all “Islamists” are “nutters”?

[whelk]

  On 21/12/2024 at 09:42, sadoldgit said:

And maybe have a think why you immediately jump to the conclusion that every attack like this is a) a terror related attack and b) is Muslim related. 
You clearly don’t have a problem with the butchery we have seen against innocent Muslim people in Gaza in the last 2 years - over 40,000 so far. In fact you actually think it is ok to post laughing emojis after posts relating to those deaths. We know nothing yet about the motives of this person but we know the motives of Netanyahu. As long as he attacks Muslims that is fine by you?

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You don’t actually care about these crimes do you? More important to you is what angle you can use for your dribble. Genuinely think you’d get a hard on if it turned out the perpetrator was Jewish

[Gloucester Saint]

  On 21/12/2024 at 00:30, aintforever said:

The Mail is reporting that the scumbag who did it is ‘an anti-Islam, AfD-supporting doctor’. Probably best not to speculate about motive until the facts are known tho.

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The alternative is someone radicalised by the far right - who Musk was praising yesterday - and trying to stir up domestic politics and anti-immigration.

A toddler has been killed either way.

[egg]

  On 21/12/2024 at 10:01, whelk said:

You don’t actually care about these crimes do you? More important to you is what angle you can use for your dribble. Genuinely think you’d get a hard on if it turned out the perpetrator was Jewish

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To be fair, there's a few semi's over him being an Arab. 

[pingpong]

The perpetrator sounds like he would get on with some of the people on here...

"the suspect is an outspoken critic of Islam, and has promoted conspiracy theories regarding an alleged plot by German authorities to islamicise Europe."

[whelk]

  On 21/12/2024 at 12:00, egg said:

To be fair, there's a few semi's over him being an Arab. 

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It’s is natural to make assumptions but don’t think anyone takes any enjoyment for want of a better word in the background of the attacker. It shouldn’t be about political oneupmanship but does seem odd that someone would use killing innocent westerners as a demonstration of how much they were anti-Islam. 
There is a natural cynicism though that authorities are desperate to push out a narrative to calm anti immigrant sentiment. 

[egg]

  On 21/12/2024 at 13:17, whelk said:

It’s is natural to make assumptions but don’t think anyone takes any enjoyment for want of a better word in the background of the attacker. It shouldn’t be about political oneupmanship but does seem odd that someone would use killing innocent westerners as a demonstration of how much they were anti-Islam. 
There is a natural cynicism though that authorities are desperate to push out a narrative to calm anti immigrant sentiment. 

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It isn't natural to make the assumptions  you and Hypo did. You were having acid poured down his family's throats ffs - a bizarre suggestion - his behaviour ain't on them. Hypo thought Christmas had come early.

As it happens, the fella appears to be islamaphobic rather than an Islamist, but people assumed before we even know his skin colour. Contempt before investigation if there ever was. 

SoG goes about his business in the wrong way, but I reckon the grief he gets is partly because he's touched the nerves of a few. 

[whelk]

  On 21/12/2024 at 14:13, egg said:

It isn't natural to make the assumptions  you and Hypo did.

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It is for you have a brain capable of working out trends. Anyone wet can say let’s wait and see and actually I think that is virtue signalling. You make plenty of assumptions about IDF.

what has acid got to do with it - whoever  did it is a complete cunt or are assuming I only want it prescribe to Muslims?

 

[egg]

  On 21/12/2024 at 14:25, whelk said:

It is for you have a brain capable of working out trends. Anyone wet can say let’s wait and see and actually I think that is virtue signalling. You make plenty of assumptions about IDF.

what has acid got to do with it - whoever  did it is a complete cunt or are assuming I only want it prescribe to Muslims?

 

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1. Your brain seemingly led you down the wrong path.

2. Comparing what the IDF do literally every day is a tad different to this incident, especially before having any knowledge of the perpetartor. 

3. You're the one who's made assumptions mate, not me. Regardless, what's your justification for wanting acid poured down the throat of the perpetrators family? That's a horrendous wish. 

[hypochondriac]

  On 21/12/2024 at 14:13, egg said:

It isn't natural to make the assumptions  you and Hypo did. You were having acid poured down his family's throats ffs - a bizarre suggestion - his behaviour ain't on them. Hypo thought Christmas had come early.

As it happens, the fella appears to be islamaphobic rather than an Islamist, but people assumed before we even know his skin colour. Contempt before investigation if there ever was. 

SoG goes about his business in the wrong way, but I reckon the grief he gets is partly because he's touched the nerves of a few. 

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Frankly you're talking absolute bollocks. I would far rather this appaling crime had never happened. SOG gets grief because he's a hypocrite who downplays child sexual abuse and calls many people rape apologists, racist etc without evidence.