benjii Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 How many chances on goal would you say a 10 man team playing the European champions have to get before it deserves any sort of credit? This is the point >>> But this doesn't hide the fact that in 90 minutes we never landed a single blow. We just roll over and accept defeat way too easily. Now that's not too much of a problem today, but we need to buck our ideas up in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 An utter embarrasment. Man U had us sussed out within 10 mins then just played with us in the second half. Yes Riley was awful but it didn't really matter, we were worse. Thank god they didn't really try or it would have been double figures for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the emu Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 A few points: - The Manure side was hardly the champions league winning side so yes, for those asking the question what did you expect...well a dam lot more than was given. - Someone also mentioned we only had one up front. Who was that? I just saw a prima donna falling over every 2 minutes claiming free after countless free. - Call me old school, and I might be missing something here, but when your manning a wall, inside the box less than 10 yards from goals since when is protecting your face with your arm a priority, as thats just asking for barney rubble? If it goes near your face fecken header the damn thing or are their reflexes truly that 's just slow? It wasn't just McGoldrick, but the whole wall who did it not once but twice. - This has been said before I'm sure, but my mother runs faster than Lancaster and she has a Zimmerframe. I watched the game on Setanta and theres only two positives out of this game that I can see: - Portaloo might see Dowies half time comments and make notes - Someone with money atleast seeing the full house at St Marys might see us a potential investment (although we will probably go into administration before that happens). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatic Fridge Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Right ok, we were playing Man Utd and for most of the game we had 10 men. but Man Utd wont even have to wash their kits, they won the game in 1st gear! Ian Hollaway said on Radio 5 that Saints have no structure or shape to their play and that if we are not carefull the youngsters may be harmed by playing in a team that gets beaten most weeks. John Motson said that he couldn't understand why we left 2 reasonably experienced players on the bench and didn't opt to bring them on ( BWP and Euell ). Earlier on in the day David pleat and Steve Claridge were scathing about Rupert Lowe and believe the club is in trouble with him running it. Before anyone starts having a dig at Claridge, he was complimentary about the fact we were always been a well run club when we were at the Dell and we still have a big fan base, pointing to the that we had 26000 v Notts Forest but overall we are only getting around 14000 as an average crowd as most Saints fans are dissallusioned with how the club is being run. They are both concerned with how much Rupert influences footballing decisions. Odd isn't it that this perception is shared by these people who have much knowledge of the "football" industry as do the majority of "true" Saints fans - yet there are drones on this forum who still cannot see what the disease Lowe has done to this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Today seemed typical of everything I've seen of Saints this season. We showed a few nice touches early on, had a fair bit of the play and a few good moves without really creating any clear cut opportunities. We then concede a goal, and completely implode. The first goal, while offside, was easily preventable, it was just atrocious defending. The red card was probably fair enough in itself for the challenge, but was from a completely needless tackle. And while I don't think it was a penalty for McGoldrick's "handball", it again was unnecessary for him to jump with his arm in the air and give Riley the excuse to give his heroes a penalty. We need to cut out the stupid errors before we'll progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not On My Watch Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 can we not expect our players to go out and play with spirit and fight? Patterson had fight and got sent off! The truth is that Man U have a cailbre of players a class above ours. It's hard to show these attributes if you can't get near the ball. If you think that our players weren't trying then you are wrong. This is what happens when one team plays a vastly superior team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Right ok, we were playing Man Utd and for most of the game we had 10 men. but Man Utd wont even have to wash their kits, they won the game in 1st gear! Ian Hollaway said on Radio 5 that Saints have no structure or shape to their play and that if we are not carefull the youngsters may be harmed by playing in a team that gets beaten most weeks. John Motson said that he couldn't understand why we left 2 reasonably experienced players on the bench and didn't opt to bring them on ( BWP and Euell ). Earlier on in the day David pleat and Steve Claridge were scathing about Rupert Lowe and believe the club is in trouble with him running it. Before anyone starts having a dig at Claridge, he was complimentary about the fact we were always been a well run club when we were at the Dell and we still have a big fan base, pointing to the that we had 26000 v Notts Forest but overall we are only getting around 14000 as an average crowd as most Saints fans are dissallusioned with how the club is being run. They are both concerned with how much Rupert influences footballing decisions. Holloway made some interesting observations throughout the match. I liked the one where he said that he'd seen us a few times and we play some pretty stuff in the middle of the park but we can't score and we can't defend and we're going to struggle... Get him in, Rupert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Definitely offside first goal, second goal wasn't a penalty. And never a red card in a million years. Riley was always in ManUre's pocket as expected. But this doesn't hide the fact that in 90 minutes we never landed a single blow. We just roll over and accept defeat way too easily. Now that's not too much of a problem today, but we need to buck our ideas up in the league. you blind ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the emu Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Men against boys. We are 2nd from bottom in the Championship and they are the reigning European champions. Without wanting to insult you, if you were expecting more than what we gave today you are deluded. A few points: - The Manure side was hardly the champions league winning side so yes, for those asking the question what did you expect...well a dam lot more than was given. - Someone also mentioned we only had one up front. Who was that? I just saw a prima donna falling over every 2 minutes claiming free after countless free. - Call me old school, and I might be missing something here, but when your manning a wall, inside the box less than 10 yards from goals since when is protecting your face with your arm a priority, as thats just asking for barney rubble? If it goes near your face fecken header the damn thing or are their reflexes truly that 's just slow? It wasn't just McGoldrick, but the whole wall who did it not once but twice. - This has been said before I'm sure, but my mother runs faster than Lancaster and she has a Zimmerframe. I watched the game on Setanta and theres only two positives out of this game that I can see: - Portaloo might see Dowies half time comments and make notes - Someone with money atleast seeing the full house at St Marys might see us a potential investment (although we will probably go into administration before that happens). And meant lancashire...one too many drinks downing my sorrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreog Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 The team has no spirit, ......they do their best against one of the world's top sides....but it lacks the passion, commitment, guile, determination and basic will to win that may other clubs in Championship or below would have shown today...........these guys are going through the motions and the club is in freefall.....stopped lettimg it bother me a long time ago, but nevertheless ....sad to watch it happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Today seemed typical of everything I've seen of Saints this season. We showed a few nice touches early on, had a fair bit of the play and a few good moves without really creating any clear cut opportunities. We then concede a goal, and completely implode. The first goal, while offside, was easily preventable, it was just atrocious defending. The red card was probably fair enough in itself for the challenge, but was from a completely needless tackle. And while I don't think it was a penalty for McGoldrick's "handball", it again was unnecessary for him to jump with his arm in the air and give Riley the excuse to give his heroes a penalty. We need to cut out the stupid errors before we'll progress. Agree 100%. I think the problem is that if you pay peanuts... ooo ooo ah ah and all that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 A pretty wet, limp, dismal, effortless performance. Never really tried. All those who say "3-0, not bad" should just admit we might as well never bother to turn up. Zero penetration up front. Why oh why don't we play one of your on-loan strikers. No goals = no wins, hasn't our Director of Football figured that out yet? And JP was so demotivational: why not stand in the area, shout instructions, give encouragement, spread an atmosphere of positivity? Not up to it. Best bit (well, least worst I suppose) was 5-live on the way in, talking about SFC. Lowe was derided as self-appointed Director of Football without a clue. Graham Taylor called -him "beyond naieve". Steve Claridge (cue anti-Pompey abuse) reiterated the need for some older. more experienced players and that the total reliance on the youth was driving us to oblivion. They aren't driven by a hidden agenda - they make their living by sensible, unbiased comment. Until things change at the top we are stuck on this downward spiral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Don't think we did that badly. 10 men against United was always going to be a difficult task. Davis and Perry were outstanding; especially important since we've only for 2 centre backs left. McKlaggon looked great too- fast, good control... if only the rest of the team could keep up with him/moved for him! So 3 positives at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Patterson had fight and got sent off! The truth is that Man U have a cailbre of players a class above ours. It's hard to show these attributes if you can't get near the ball. If you think that our players weren't trying then you are wrong. This is what happens when one team plays a vastly superior team. Obviously Gillingham Hartlepool Forest non League Forest green rovers & Macclesfield must have all missed your script then as 2 of them won & 3 went down with a real fight. As they also said on satanta they expect Blyth Spartans to give a better fighting display than we did today. Nobody expected us to even get close to winning today but i'd hoped for a fighting valiant defeat. I don't think you could claim that happend today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Don't think we did that badly. 10 men against United was always going to be a difficult task. Davis and Perry were outstanding; especially important since we've only for 2 centre backs left. McKlaggon looked great too- fast, good control... if only the rest of the team could keep up with him/moved for him! So 3 positives at least. Losing 3-0 at home without really putting up a fight is a positive? Come on, Chris, be a bit more positive than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel31 Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 ok then, i havent seen the replay, from my view at the game which was clear but from the other side of the pitch, it was no more than a yellow, but from what the people on here are say that it was a red, if two feet are off the ground and studs showing, does it matter that he also hit the player? its still dangerous hit or not! if this is your arguement then we would never of had a game at home this season where the game would have finished 11 v 11 !!! the refs job is to manage the game and its players, and he did this job poorly, you cant say that even the little decisions went to man utd wrongly. just seen the channel 4 news shots, penalty was a laugh as it hit the back of his shoulder not his elbow, as claimed by rilley! and the red card, he got 100% of the ball and it bounced through to the players leg, yes it could be a red but it is only give as such by poor bias refs, oh thats what we had. reading general comments on this thread, its nice to see a lot of you finally realize the problems we face on the pitch, shame your making yourself look like idiots for choosing this game considering the opposition, but welcome anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 In my heart i HOPED we would win, but as usual my head won. My problem with JP and our so called style was that to many of our young players actually played like all they had to do was pass it, not close down or get in their faces. Yeah Smith had one good run , but how many times did he play James into trouble. Gobern and DMG continue to get picked. People on here used Lee Holmes injury as the reason for our poor performances over the last few months, obviously JP does not agree because we did not pick him. Unless we find another central defender to loan then imo we are doomed. two big crowds and 2 spineless performances, we are definitely going dutch the team is so laid back they keep falling over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Losing 3-0 at home without really putting up a fight is a positive? Come on, Chris, be a bit more positive than that! 10 against 11 of the best players in England and we only lost 3-0? I expect by 75-80 mins of chasing shadows most of the lads were shattered. Too tired to be chasing every ball. They had to economise. I think toward the end we looked ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 In my heart i HOPED we would win, but as usual my head won. My problem with JP and our so called style was that to many of our young players actually played like all they had to do was pass it, not close down or get in their faces.Yeah Smith had one good run , but how many times did he play James into trouble. Gobern and DMG continue to get picked. People on here used Lee Holmes injury as the reason for our poor performances over the last few months, obviously JP does not agree because we did not pick him. Unless we find another central defender to loan then imo we are doomed. two big crowds and 2 spineless performances, we are definitely going dutch the team is so laid back they keep falling over Very, very valid. This must be how they are being set up and prepared. I think they actually just think they can play their way to victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Well finally that whole FA cup thing is over. Can get back to what really matters, the league! It is interesting reading peoples opinions on the game especially the decisions against us. At the time i thought the red card was very harsh, the penalty was a joke and the first goal was offisde. Thought the officials were having a bad day! But getting home and watching the replays i have to say i was wrong. The red card was very much a red card. Patterson was off the ground with studs showing and was over the ball. If the guys leg was planted we could of seen another player suffering a very long time out of the game due to a dangerous tackle. There is no place in todays game for lunges like that and if it was them doing that to us and maybe crippling say Surman would people still think a red was harsh? Obviously not. The penalty was a clear penalty. If a player jumps with his arm up in the air and the ball strikes his arm that is a penalty. If he kept his hands by his side like everyone else it would not of struck his arm would it. It is one of those decisions that could of gone either way but the law of the game says if the ball goes to arm then it is not a penalty but if arm goes to ball it is. On the radio Davis said it was a definate penalty. I give him massive respect for saying that rather then look for excuses. Which brings me on to Jan. In his post match interview he blamed the referees for not only this game but all our games. I think the last bit of respect i had for him went out of the window the moment i heard that. So it is the refs fault we have only scored 22 goals all season and let in 40? Sorry Jan but i have seen pretty much every game. I would say the refs have done us more favours then dis-favours this season. The games against Doncaster Derby and Ipswich the refs gave us massive decisions which helped us to get points. The old saying goes that you create your own luck and we have what we deserve. We are in the bottom 2 because over the course of 26 games we deserve to be there. You are to blame along with the players and the board. How about accepting some responsibility for our results rather then constantly looking to shift it elsehwhere? JAN OUT Onto the game. Anyone who thought we would win this game must have been slightly mental but for a team down to 10 men against the european and world champions losing by just 3 is a bit of a result. However even when the game was at 11 per side we never really looked like doing anything, same old story just a different set of opponents. The players looked like they couldnt be arsed but really i think that is unfair on them, it is just their level of talent makes them seem that way. The atmosphere was really bad but at least now majority of those people wont be back again seeing as they were not saints fans. Next 3 games are vital to our survival. Lose any of them and were in the ****, lose all of them and we could be 11 points adrift in the relegation zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 lets not pretend that the 11 united put out would be world/european and/or english champions was a good team..nothing more than that of course i expected us to lose but come on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 I personally think he got the decisons right. Paterson was off the floor, he wouldn't be out of sorts in a Jackie Chan movie. The handball from MG was terrible. Why jump up and then put your hand over your head?? Stupidity and nievity. Some bright sparks in the game thought Gobern was good, very raw though but could be a gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graemeread1234 Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 its ok we can concentrate on winning the league now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 I personally think he got the decisons right. Paterson was off the floor, he wouldn't be out of sorts in a Jackie Chan movie. The handball from MG was terrible. Why jump up and then put your hand over your head?? Stupidity and nievity. Some bright sparks in the game thought Gobern was good, very raw though but could be a gem. so why did super coach take him off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Meh, we got outplayed and outsung all game but I wasn't expecting anything less. Would have started Schneiderlin and Euell, mind you. Looking forward to a JCL free trip to Barnsley now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 What?! Does Van Der Saar often have much to do? We had ten men and we're about 40 places below them, what do you expect? We had plenty of fight but you need the ball to attack. Passing skills are fine but most our time was spent closing down and blocking. Try to remember who we were playing against. How about you trying to remember we are supposed to be a CCC professional football team, not a bloody tyro league side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superstevesaints Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 RIP to the man who collapsed and died, Such a shame. And saints played fairly well, apart from a few silly mistakes as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 When did he throw his arm at the ball? He twisted and his arm is clearly going away from the ball. You are having a laugh if think that was NOT a pen. MG jumped up AND put his hand above his head, the boy is an idiot. He is 10 yards away for JC sake. If he was 2 yards then fair play no pen. He gave the ref a reason to make a call and that is what ****es me off more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Ferguson's words post match on Setanta "We didnt want to humiliate them..... I have a lot of time for teams that have to play youngsters... and Southampton have a good system for that..." So Manure went easy on us by all accounts... seems that way... utd played well within their means, with a weaker side than usual. Saints.... didnt have a striker.... did we have a serious shot on target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 also people using the whole United are the champions etc.. as an excuse need to look at the Southend game yesterday. They are something like 15th in league 1 playing away at the english and champions league runners up playing pretty much a Chelsea A team and thy got a draw. That wasent a man utd A team, far from it. Andy Gray always says if you dont create chances how will you score? We just dont create chances (as in shots on target). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 We looked ok for about 10 minutes. For the other 80 we looked ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExSt Peter Saint Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Firstly, it was a blatant red card from a player obviously not up to playing 1st team football yet. I would have been screaming at the other team if their player had done that. the first goal was offside, but very few officials would have spotted it - unlucky, but wouldn't complain too much. The penalty did not hit his arm, but his arm should not have been in that position when he's in the wall- asking for trouble. They still scored another totally valid goal and were it not for Davis and Perry would have scored another 5 or so. We, on the other hand, didn't look like we'd get close to putting the ball in the net all day. Their team was totally untroubled by all the pretty passing in the middle of the pitch and they were nowhere near a first choice eleven. Contrast that with Gillingham, who I watched beforehand. There was a team with real purpose, passion, pace and goal threat, who gave Villa all sorts of problems. They lost too, but only by one and did actually score against a team probably as good as the one we played and who were actually trying. They are in the 4th division and looked much better than us. If we carry on in the same way we will be below them very soon. Today I saw very little fight, no pattern of play, no goal threat, gaping holes all over the pitch for the opposition to exploit and a clueless manager standing at the side with no idea how to change it. Much as the rest of the season. Jan out now!!!! I must say well played to Perry and Davis as the only ones to come out with any credit. God how they need some other footballers with the balls and the talent to play in a proper league beside them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 The whole Man Utd squad had money on a 3-0 win. That can be the only reason they only scored 3. Was about as one sided as me against my 6 year old daughter in the back garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 People blaming DMG for the pen need to have their heads examined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Ferguson's words post match on Setanta "We didnt want to humiliate them..... I have a lot of time for teams that have to play youngsters... and Southampton have a good system for that..." So Manure went easy on us by all accounts... seems that way... utd played well within their means, with a weaker side than usual. Saints.... didnt have a striker.... did we have a serious shot on target? Yep, we have a good system for playing youngsters. Trouble is we have no system for winning football matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Yep, we have a good system for playing youngsters. Trouble is we have no system for winning football matches. nor will we if the first thought is "who can i pass it to who is square of me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 2 feet off the ground? Get yourself down to specsavers. not saying it was a two footed challange but he was way off the ground and his foot was nearer matey's knee than his foot!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 But we looked pathetic No you do with your comment. A group of kids barely old enough to be playing up against one of the greatest teams ever. It's not their fault they have been drafted in like this. Most games I would accept your comment, but not today. They gave 100% which is all I could have asked of them before the game. Ok United were only ever in 2nd gear, but what exactly did you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chivvy1664 Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 who gives a **** we where never going to win anyway. Worst cup draw we could have had except for the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 No you do with your comment. A group of kids barely old enough to be playing up against one of the greatest teams ever. It's not their fault they have been drafted in like this. Most games I would accept your comment, but not today. They gave 100% which is all I could have asked of them before the game. Ok United were only ever in 2nd gear, but what exactly did you expect? Agreed i totally blame the Management set up . Could job Southend, Hartlepool and Gillingham are not coached by Dutch "pass it sideways" coaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 not saying it was a two footed challange but he was way off the ground and his foot was nearer matey's knee than his foot!! It was high but he did get the ball first before the man. Youth and inexperience not malicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 It was high but he did get the ball first before the man. Youth and inexperience not malicious. exactly first time i have seen him tackle anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 People blaming DMG for the pen need to have their heads examined Agreed. Yeah, he shouldn't have his hands in the air, but did it hit his arm ? err, no it didn't so it not a penalty. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Agreed. Yeah, he shouldn't have his hands in the air, but did it hit his arm ? err, no it didn't so it not a penalty. Simple as that. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 No you do with your comment. A group of kids barely old enough to be playing up against one of the greatest teams ever. It's not their fault they have been drafted in like this. Most games I would accept your comment, but not today. They gave 100% which is all I could have asked of them before the game. Ok United were only ever in 2nd gear, but what exactly did you expect? that was 100%? Showed no fight or real commitment. Take the rose tinted glasses off mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Right ok, we were playing Man Utd and for most of the game we had 10 men. but Man Utd wont even have to wash their kits, they won the game in 1st gear! Ian Hollaway said on Radio 5 that Saints have no structure or shape to their play and that if we are not carefull the youngsters may be harmed by playing in a team that gets beaten most weeks. John Motson said that he couldn't understand why we left 2 reasonably experienced players on the bench and didn't opt to bring them on ( BWP and Euell ). Earlier on in the day David pleat and Steve Claridge were scathing about Rupert Lowe and believe the club is in trouble with him running it. Before anyone starts having a dig at Claridge, he was complimentary about the fact we were always been a well run club when we were at the Dell and we still have a big fan base, pointing to the that we had 26000 v Notts Forest but overall we are only getting around 14000 as an average crowd as most Saints fans are dissallusioned with how the club is being run. They are both concerned with how much Rupert influences footballing decisions. Extemely good post. I agree totoally and heard a.ove on 5 live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 No you do with your comment. A group of kids barely old enough to be playing up against one of the greatest teams ever. It's not their fault they have been drafted in like this. Most games I would accept your comment, but not today. They gave 100% which is all I could have asked of them before the game. Ok United were only ever in 2nd gear, but what exactly did you expect? im sorry but this is getting laughable now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 So you don't think the current Man Utd team is one of the best teams ever? Nothing laughable about that, and it's hardly an excuse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 So you don't think the current Man Utd team is one of the best teams ever? Nothing laughable about that, and it's hardly an excuse... the team we played against today was not even close to being one of the best teams ever... jesus christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 maybe at full strength Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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