Batman Posted 4 November, 2015 Share Posted 4 November, 2015 Sure as hell wouldn't if it was the "other way around" talking about a different tone of skin http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/charges-dropped-against-university-diversity-6761140 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 4 November, 2015 Share Posted 4 November, 2015 She said: "I, as an ethnic minority woman, cannot be racist or sexist towards white men, because racism and sexism describe structures of privilege based on race and gender. Certainly a bit concerning if someone in a 'diversity' position at a university holds this view, it's an outright admission that racism only applies one way ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 4 November, 2015 Share Posted 4 November, 2015 So, I guess a ****'s out the question then, love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 4 November, 2015 Share Posted 4 November, 2015 There are two sides to every question I suppose. But 'on the face of it' it does seems hard to argue against the OP's supposition that had these remarks been directed against certain ethnic minority groups then the women in question would indeed have been immediately sacked and quite possibly prosecuted too. So a clear double standard then ... perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 November, 2015 Share Posted 4 November, 2015 Well, she certainly doesn't seem to know what Diversity means in this context. I am also very surprised that the CPS dropped the case as there seems to be evidence against her according to this article. Her definition is completely wrong. At the CPS it was drummed into us to the extent that we had to answer questions on it during promotion interviews that diversity means treating people of all race, gender, religious, sexual backgrounds the same. To say that you cant be racist against "white men" is wrong. Inciting people to murder others, if that is what she did, no matter what colour their skin, gender, religion or sexual background is also a no-no unsurprisingly. Had this appeared in the Daily Mail I wouldn't have looked at it twice but as the Mirror are going with it perhaps there is something to it. The CPS will drop cases if they feel there is not enough evidence to get a prosecution and or if they feel it is not in the public interest to prosecute. It will be interesting to see what the DPP has to say about the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 4 November, 2015 Share Posted 4 November, 2015 Why does the University need a "Diversity Officer" in the first place. In the second place, judging by her misguided and confrontational attitudes, why on earth would they employ somebody like her? Too right that if this was a WASP making these sorts of remarks, the left-wing establishment would be baying for blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 November, 2015 Share Posted 4 November, 2015 It makes you wonder, although when I was with the CPS they were talking about giving a manager responsibility for "diversity." There was a standing joke in our office that the only people being discriminated against in the organisation were middle aged WASP males! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 4 November, 2015 Share Posted 4 November, 2015 Why does the University need a "Diversity Officer" in the first place. In the second place, judging by her misguided and confrontational attitudes, why on earth would they employ somebody like her? Too right that if this was a WASP making these sorts of remarks, the left-wing establishment would be baying for blood. Wasn't this a student union appointment, not university? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 4 November, 2015 Share Posted 4 November, 2015 Wasn't this a student union appointment, not university? Yes, you're right. Elected unopposed apparently. There is also the Guardian article very similar to the Mirror one, but digging a little deeper to see what else there was, I came across this little bit of satire, which seems to be the right-wing rag-week type student response, and nicely balances irreverently the extremist views of Ms Mustafa with the extremist views from the other end of the spectrum. https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Bahar_Mustafa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 5 November, 2015 Share Posted 5 November, 2015 If it was the other way round there would be a **** storm .. and this highlights the hypocrisy of many a lefty. where I come from, prejudice is prejudice, irrespective of race, gender, sexuality etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 5 November, 2015 Share Posted 5 November, 2015 If it was the other way round there would be a **** storm .. and this highlights the hypocrisy of many a lefty. where I come from, prejudice is prejudice, irrespective of race, gender, sexuality etc She's not a lefty she's an ultra-feminist loon. Many a lefty wanted her sacked, myself included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 November, 2015 Share Posted 5 November, 2015 Not sure what it's got to do with "lefties", she's clearly a prejudiced moron incapable of seeing the hypocrisy of her actions and benefiting from the usual level of un-nuanced knee-jerkist reporting for self-publicity that will probably get her to Katie Hopkins levels of notoriety. You'd think this genuine example of "political correctness gone mad" would make some people realise how little of the legitimate diversity agenda which they constantly rail against is actually "political correctness gone mad", but it appears self-awareness is pretty low on the agenda there too. As an aside, two black managers get sacked, apparently this makes it a "bad day for black managers". Does anyone else actually think of the two managers in question primarily as "black managers" other than the people compartmentalising them like that? Why is it not reported as "a bad day for white managers" when two of them are sacked in the same day? The reporting itself is hugely hypocritical, as is the refusal NOT to label people by their colour. Managers who happen to be black are almost certainly no more interested in others of their skin colour getting jobs than anyone else - i.e. practically not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 November, 2015 Share Posted 5 November, 2015 (edited) If it was the other way round there would be a **** storm .. and this highlights the hypocrisy of many a lefty. There is a totally disproportionate schitstorm. All major national media outlets covering an alleged tweet from a 22 year old student union official? Its just student politics - young people still working out what they believe in and posturing while they do it. I actually agree with this quote from the whiter than white Ms Bahar. “I think that these people who accuse me have a very misguided understanding of free speech. I don’t condone anyone being in prison for what they said – whether it’s a far-right extremist or a fascist. I absolutely believe in free speech....“The internet can be a horrible place full of misery and perversion, but I don’t think that the state should deal with things that we don’t like on the internet. We should have the power to go and protest against it ourselves. If people want to go out and protest about something I said – fine, bring it.” Edited 5 November, 2015 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 5 November, 2015 Share Posted 5 November, 2015 As an aside, two black managers get sacked, apparently this makes it a "bad day for black managers". Does anyone else actually think of the two managers in question primarily as "black managers" other than the people compartmentalising them like that? Why is it not reported as "a bad day for white managers" when two of them are sacked in the same day? . I think the story is that 40% of black managers got the sack on the same day . Why do you think that there are only a handful of black managers when there are so many black players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 5 November, 2015 Share Posted 5 November, 2015 She's a spoilt, little gob***** at that backwater of uncomformity, goldsmiths, ffs - for whom 'white men' is as much feminist code word for 'the system'. It's MOBOs season - isn't there already enough for helmets to get worked up about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 5 November, 2015 Share Posted 5 November, 2015 I think the story is that 40% of black managers got the sack on the same day . Why do you think that there are only a handful of black managers when there are so many black players? I suppose because the superior physique of the black player has doesn't give them any sort of advantage when applying to be a manager. A better question would be, how can there possibly be racism in football when there are so many black players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 November, 2015 Share Posted 5 November, 2015 I think the story is that 40% of black managers got the sack on the same day . Why do you think that there are only a handful of black managers when there are so many black players? A question for black players surely? Do we know they actually want to be managers? How many of them have tried to get into management? Managers are sacked for lack of results not the colour of their skin. The fact that so many clubs are happy to employ black players would suggest they are overly concerned with race I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 6 November, 2015 Share Posted 6 November, 2015 A better question would be, how can there possibly be racism in football when there are so many black players? An equivalent question would be, how can gender discrimination possibly exist with all these women around? You are confusing representation with equality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 6 November, 2015 Share Posted 6 November, 2015 (edited) And the predictable ring-wing 'but if they can be racist, why can't I?!' sensationalised circle-w@nk begins. Edited 6 November, 2015 by BlakeySFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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