Saint_clark Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Surprised but very happy to see JWP in his best position! Probably going to mean Davis is shunted back to the holding position he isn't as good in so JWP can mess about thinking he is an attacking midfielder. Weird selection. The Saints twitter lists JWP as CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Horrible line-up that? Seems weird. It's only two different to the last game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Can only think without Wanyama that Ron is worried on defending set plays. But you lose so much when a CB plays instead of a proper RB. With that logic surely Romeo should play not exactly small is he :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 This Cedric thing is just bizarre. Plays really well for a couple of games and then is dropped for Yoshida who is just awful at right back. Really don't understand what Ron sees in him. Did he not watch the back pass against United? We will lose this. I thought we would before the line up and now I'm convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Let the scapegoating begin.... Pick on a player to slag off before a ball is kicked..... Pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 With that logic surely Romeo should play not exactly small is he :s Yep. But injury aside there can be no other reason to play Yoshida over Cedric? Not even sure how Yoshida has suddenly been seen as RB cover. He is the sort you play in an injury crisis out there but I don't see any attributes he has to play there which Fonte or VVD don't have yet Fonte has never played full back in his many years with us. Also shows how **** Martina (an actual RB) is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5string Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Line up: Stek Yoshida Fonte VVD Bertrand Clasie JWP Davis Mane Tadic Pelle Yoshida at RB and a ligfhtweight CM 3 doesn't really bode well. That's an attacking line up to me: Yoshi & Bertrand overlapping as wingbacks Clasie sitting in front of Fonte/VvD in a central defensive triangle, while JWP & Davis look forward with their passes (not the too-frequent backwards of early season). Mane/Tadic/Pelle running rings around their dreadful defence. Just, no enforcer. Hmm. Mind you, I was nearly right with my 6-3-1 Sunderland formation! 4-5-1 innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Yoshida to get another left foot screamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Let the scapegoating begin.... Pick on a player to slag off before a ball is kicked..... Pathetic Yep, ridiculous. This places opinion on Yoshida seems to change every month. And JWP put in one of his best performances for us in DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Yep. But injury aside there can be no other reason to play Yoshida over Cedric? Not even sure how Yoshida has suddenly been seen as RB cover. He is the sort you play in an injury crisis out there but I don't see any attributes he has to play there which Fonte or VVD don't have yet Fonte has never played full back in his many years with us. Also shows how **** Martina (an actual RB) is. Yoshida is the new Paul Telfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Let the scapegoating begin.... Pick on a player to slag off before a ball is kicked..... Pathetic Barely anyone is doing that. Its the manager decision which is being questioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Happy with that line up. Prefer Cedric but it's not about who is the better player - it's about how we keep our shape without Wanyama in the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfield Saint Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 That's an attacking line up to me: Yoshi & Bertrand overlapping as wingbacks Clasie sitting in front of Fonte/VvD in a central defensive triangle, while JWP & Davis look forward with their passes (not the too-frequent backwards of early season). Mane/Tadic/Pelle running rings around their dreadful defence. Just, no enforcer. Hmm. Mind you, I was nearly right with my 6-3-1 Sunderland formation! 4-5-1 innit? More like 3-5-2? Yoshida - Fonte - VVD JWP - Davis - Clasie - Tadic - Bertrand Mane - Pelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5string Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 More like 3-5-2? Yoshida - Fonte - VVD JWP - Davis - Clasie - Tadic - Bertrand Mane - Pelle I meant Sunderland's formation was 4-5-1. Very defensive. Yeah, ours is quite flexible - no bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Yoshida selection possibly to compensate for how small we are in midfield to help with defending set pieces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svetigpung Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 most importantly we have Fonte and VVd at CB's. Yoshida at RB doesn't worry me (too) much. Why no Romeo at CM though? Could be a proper battle in central midfield. Hope we pass it around quickly and dont let them in the game. Pellé to net a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Ronald explains Yoshida plays as it allows for flexibility of formation in the first half depending on how Sunderland line-up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Koeman says Maya plays because they normally play 4-4-2 and he gives us the chance to switch to a back 3. However today they are clearly set up in a 4-5-1 and from Allardyce's comments that was always going to be the case. Pick our best side and let them deal with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 http://images.scribblelive.com/2015/11/7/264d5ad6-bb6b-4c20-a69c-75ee32a9d40c.png To quote rom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Yeah, Yoshida was utter sh!t at RB versus Villa too. FFS. Whilst Cedric is definitely first choice RB, we've seen RK deploy a slightly 'lopsided' defence effectively before. Anyone watching can see Yoshida is a clearly capable player who's gradually reducing the number of errors each time he plays. Players can get better you know? UTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5string Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Subs bench: K Davis Cedric Romeu Martina Juanmi Caulker Seager Quite defensive, that. Where are the attacking options, apart from Juanmi? Is Seager attacking? I get the impression he scores goals in the U21, but correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Subs bench: K Davis Cedric Romeu Martina Juanmi Caulker Seager Quite defensive, that. Where are the attacking options, apart from Juanmi? Is Seager attacking? I get the impression he scores goals in the U21, but correct me if I'm wrong. Injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5string Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 most importantly we have Fonte and VVd at CB's. Yoshida at RB doesn't worry me (too) much. Why no Romeo at CM though? Could be a proper battle in central midfield. Hope we pass it around quickly and dont let them in the game. Pellé to net a couple. This would be the aim of our particular midfield today, I'd suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5string Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Injured. Of course. Doh! When's that January window...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyboy Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Gaston back out of favour then. That bench really does look lean from an attacking point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Yoshida to get another left foot screamer. That was all Yoshida's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Yeah, Yoshida was utter sh!t at RB versus Villa too. FFS. Whilst Cedric is definitely first choice RB, we've seen RK deploy a slightly 'lopsided' defence effectively before. Anyone watching can see Yoshida is a clearly capable player who's gradually reducing the number of errors each time he plays. Players can get better you know? UTS Hes ******* **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 This us where Ron can show how good he is - to me this makes zero sense, Sunderlands best attacking threat has been their quick left back so I would assume cedrics pace would be better. Equally big SAM midfielders will be putting it about so a massive test for our 3 small midfielders. All that said there must be a plan (and I don't buy the revert to 3 at the back as who would play right back if not making a sub, and if you are why not just bring maya on?), and I'm hoping we are pushing our quality passing and fitness of those 3 who in that respect are better. Time to show we can cope without big Vic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Clean sweep for an away win on the Sky Sports Soccer Saturday panel. More confidence on there than on here.....[emoji15] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 I have had the 'pleasure' of being at the last four abysmal away games at Sunderland (the league loss last seaaon was the worst game ever in the history of all football, at any level, ever, in the world, ever). Because of this, today, I am as far away from the North East as possible. As all of Saints results are all about me, obviously, I predict a Saints away win. Score? A one-nil thumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Clean sweep for an away win on the Sky Sports Soccer Saturday panel. More confidence on there than on here.....[emoji15] They just pick whichever team is higher in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Hes ******* **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 The genius move of dropping Cedric again, always works well. If he's not injured, that is a moronic decision. Yoshida is a ok CB and a poor RB at this level, offering nothing going forward. Cedric has been excellent. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3bdzur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Jonno Forte scored sometimes. You wouldn't drop Lambert for him. Cedric is clearly a superior full back. Hopefully it works well but seems unnecessary tinkering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Yoshida is totally sh1t at full back and less than average at cb. Oh dear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Jonno Forte scored sometimes. You wouldn't drop Lambert for him. Cedric is clearly a superior full back. Hopefully it works well but seems unnecessary tinkering. If my nan had balls she'd be my grandad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Any decent streams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 I'm sure there's a football forum of no opinions or analysis around somewhere, it'd be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 Was confident until I saw James does nothing Prowse in the line up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 7 November, 2015 Share Posted 7 November, 2015 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?55430-Sunderland-vs-Saints-Match-Thread#.Vj4SiVrfWrU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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