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Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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Surprised but very happy to see JWP in his best position!

 

Probably going to mean Davis is shunted back to the holding position he isn't as good in so JWP can mess about thinking he is an attacking midfielder.

 

Weird selection.

 

The Saints twitter lists JWP as CM.

Wrensup

Wrensup

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Can only think without Wanyama that Ron is worried on defending set plays.

 

But you lose so much when a CB plays instead of a proper RB.

 

With that logic surely Romeo should play not exactly small is he :s

James

James

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This Cedric thing is just bizarre. Plays really well for a couple of games and then is dropped for Yoshida who is just awful at right back. Really don't understand what Ron sees in him. Did he not watch the back pass against United?

 

We will lose this. I thought we would before the line up and now I'm convinced.

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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With that logic surely Romeo should play not exactly small is he :s

Yep. But injury aside there can be no other reason to play Yoshida over Cedric?

 

Not even sure how Yoshida has suddenly been seen as RB cover. He is the sort you play in an injury crisis out there but I don't see any attributes he has to play there which Fonte or VVD don't have yet Fonte has never played full back in his many years with us.

 

Also shows how **** Martina (an actual RB) is.

5string

5string

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Line up:

 

Stek

 

Yoshida

Fonte

VVD

Bertrand

 

Clasie

JWP

Davis

 

Mane

Tadic

Pelle

 

Yoshida at RB and a ligfhtweight CM 3 doesn't really bode well.

 

That's an attacking line up to me:

 

Yoshi & Bertrand overlapping as wingbacks

Clasie sitting in front of Fonte/VvD in a central defensive triangle, while JWP & Davis look forward with their passes (not the too-frequent backwards of early season).

Mane/Tadic/Pelle running rings around their dreadful defence.

 

Just, no enforcer. Hmm.

 

Mind you, I was nearly right with my 6-3-1 Sunderland formation! 4-5-1 innit?

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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Let the scapegoating begin....

 

Pick on a player to slag off before a ball is kicked..... Pathetic

 

Yep, ridiculous. This places opinion on Yoshida seems to change every month. And JWP put in one of his best performances for us in DM.

gammon cheeks

gammon cheeks

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Yep. But injury aside there can be no other reason to play Yoshida over Cedric?

 

Not even sure how Yoshida has suddenly been seen as RB cover. He is the sort you play in an injury crisis out there but I don't see any attributes he has to play there which Fonte or VVD don't have yet Fonte has never played full back in his many years with us.

 

Also shows how **** Martina (an actual RB) is.

Yoshida is the new Paul Telfer.
Mowgli

Mowgli

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Happy with that line up. Prefer Cedric but it's not about who is the better player - it's about how we keep our shape without Wanyama in the side.

Highfield Saint

Highfield Saint

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That's an attacking line up to me:

 

Yoshi & Bertrand overlapping as wingbacks

Clasie sitting in front of Fonte/VvD in a central defensive triangle, while JWP & Davis look forward with their passes (not the too-frequent backwards of early season).

Mane/Tadic/Pelle running rings around their dreadful defence.

 

Just, no enforcer. Hmm.

 

Mind you, I was nearly right with my 6-3-1 Sunderland formation! 4-5-1 innit?

 

More like 3-5-2?

 

Yoshida - Fonte - VVD

JWP - Davis - Clasie - Tadic - Bertrand

Mane - Pelle

5string

5string

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More like 3-5-2?

 

Yoshida - Fonte - VVD

JWP - Davis - Clasie - Tadic - Bertrand

Mane - Pelle

 

I meant Sunderland's formation was 4-5-1. Very defensive.

 

Yeah, ours is quite flexible - no bad thing.

svetigpung

svetigpung

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most importantly we have Fonte and VVd at CB's. Yoshida at RB doesn't worry me (too) much.

 

Why no Romeo at CM though? Could be a proper battle in central midfield. Hope we pass it around quickly and dont let them in the game.

 

Pellé to net a couple.

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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Koeman says Maya plays because they normally play 4-4-2 and he gives us the chance to switch to a back 3.

 

However today they are clearly set up in a 4-5-1 and from Allardyce's comments that was always going to be the case.

 

Pick our best side and let them deal with us.

Polaroid Saint

Polaroid Saint

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Yeah, Yoshida was utter sh!t at RB versus Villa too.

 

FFS.

 

Whilst Cedric is definitely first choice RB, we've seen RK deploy a slightly 'lopsided' defence effectively before. Anyone watching can see Yoshida is a clearly capable player who's gradually reducing the number of errors each time he plays. Players can get better you know?

 

UTS

5string

5string

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Subs bench:

 

K Davis

Cedric

Romeu

Martina

Juanmi

Caulker

Seager

 

Quite defensive, that. Where are the attacking options, apart from Juanmi? Is Seager attacking? I get the impression he scores goals in the U21, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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Subs bench:

 

K Davis

Cedric

Romeu

Martina

Juanmi

Caulker

Seager

 

Quite defensive, that. Where are the attacking options, apart from Juanmi? Is Seager attacking? I get the impression he scores goals in the U21, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Injured.

5string

5string

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most importantly we have Fonte and VVd at CB's. Yoshida at RB doesn't worry me (too) much.

 

Why no Romeo at CM though? Could be a proper battle in central midfield. Hope we pass it around quickly and dont let them in the game.

 

Pellé to net a couple.

 

This would be the aim of our particular midfield today, I'd suggest.

BILLY

BILLY

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Yeah, Yoshida was utter sh!t at RB versus Villa too.

 

FFS.

 

Whilst Cedric is definitely first choice RB, we've seen RK deploy a slightly 'lopsided' defence effectively before. Anyone watching can see Yoshida is a clearly capable player who's gradually reducing the number of errors each time he plays. Players can get better you know?

 

UTS

 

Hes ******* ****

Hodgey

Hodgey

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This us where Ron can show how good he is - to me this makes zero sense, Sunderlands best attacking threat has been their quick left back so I would assume cedrics pace would be better. Equally big SAM midfielders will be putting it about so a massive test for our 3 small midfielders. All that said there must be a plan (and I don't buy the revert to 3 at the back as who would play right back if not making a sub, and if you are why not just bring maya on?), and I'm hoping we are pushing our quality passing and fitness of those 3 who in that respect are better. Time to show we can cope without big Vic.

Polaroid Saint

Polaroid Saint

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I have had the 'pleasure' of being at the last four abysmal away games at Sunderland (the league loss last seaaon was the worst game ever in the history of all football, at any level, ever, in the world, ever).

 

Because of this, today, I am as far away from the North East as possible. As all of Saints results are all about me, obviously, I predict a Saints away win. Score? A one-nil thumping.

Goatboy

Goatboy

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Jonno Forte scored sometimes. You wouldn't drop Lambert for him.

 

Cedric is clearly a superior full back. Hopefully it works well but seems unnecessary tinkering.

 

If my nan had balls she'd be my grandad.

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