niceandfriendly Posted 18 May, 2018 Share Posted 18 May, 2018 Would love to see if Hughes can get the best out of Clasie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 18 May, 2018 Share Posted 18 May, 2018 Wouldn't be surprised if Davis rocked up at rangers to join the Stevie G revolution. Yup - sure I read an article somewhere when he joined where he said he'd like to go back there before the end of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 18 May, 2018 Share Posted 18 May, 2018 Would love to see if Hughes can get the best out of Clasie. I'd like to see him leave, freeing up wages for someone better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 18 May, 2018 Share Posted 18 May, 2018 There would be a problem with wages unless Saints subsidise for a year or Davis agrees to a massive paycut. Rangers couldn't get remotely close to our pay structure. subsidising wages seems increasingly common these days. Did we do that with Classie? Will we do that with someone like Forster, who maybe cost prohibitive to anyone actually interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 18 May, 2018 Share Posted 18 May, 2018 I'd like to see him leave, freeing up wages for someone better. But he seems sweet, you know? A very lovable little chap. If we try and sell him he might cry, and that would only increase my desire to give him a hug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 18 May, 2018 Share Posted 18 May, 2018 There is nothing from Clasie to suggest he deserves another go at Saints. He just isn't physically at the level required. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 May, 2018 Share Posted 18 May, 2018 subsidising wages seems increasingly common these days. Did we do that with Classie? Will we do that with someone like Forster, who maybe cost prohibitive to anyone actually interested? No as Clasie has not left the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 May, 2018 Share Posted 23 May, 2018 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/16242621.What_now_for_Jordy_Clasie_/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 23 May, 2018 Share Posted 23 May, 2018 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/16242621.What_now_for_Jordy_Clasie_/This was a very poor signing. Surely our scouts/Koeman would have realised he would struggle physically in a fast league like the PL? Was clear after a couple of games that he was so lacking. When you compare him to someone like Lemina, one has the physical attributes to be a good PL central midfielder and the other is so far short, especially when we also have Romeu who visibly struggles in the last 20mins of matches, hence often making stupid fouls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 23 May, 2018 Share Posted 23 May, 2018 Shame because he is a decent little player, I quite like him, but he's just not big enough physically and we always have to use a sub for him if he starts. Time to move on unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Paul C Posted 23 May, 2018 Share Posted 23 May, 2018 Shame because he is a decent little player, I quite like him, but he's just not big enough physically and we always have to use a sub for him if he starts. Time to move on unfortunately. I quite liked the idea of Clasie but to say he's not big enough is odd. He's 1.69M and a comparable positional player, Kante is 1.68M. So it's not a size issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 I quite liked the idea of Clasie but to say he's not big enough is odd. He's 1.69M and a comparable positional player, Kante is 1.68M. So it's not a size issue. He's quite slight compared to Kante. This photo of him next to Memphis Depay from a few years ago is damning. I don't know if he's bulked up since but he definitely needed to beef up when playing in the physical Premier League. (And no, I didn't Google "Jordy Clasie" naked, I just remember seeing this photo from a few years ago. Honest.) I also think Clasie has talent, but even if he stayed he'd be behind Romeu, Hojbjerg and Lemina (if we can keep hold of him) in the pecking order so it's probably best he leaves for first team football. Additionally we need to raise funds for signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Isn't he meant to be a heavy smoker and that's why he's out of puff after an hour of running about? Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Paul C Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 He's quite slight compared to Kante. This photo of him next to Memphis Depay from a few years ago is damning. I don't know if he's bulked up since but he definitely needed to beef up when playing in the physical Premier League. (And no, I didn't Google "Jordy Clasie" naked, I just remember seeing this photo from a few years ago. Honest.) I also think Clasie has talent, but even if he stayed he'd be behind Romeu, Hojbjerg and Lemina (if we can keep hold of him) in the pecking order so it's probably best he leaves for first team football. Additionally we need to raise funds for signings. Nice piccy bro I see what you mean, he's both short and skinny.. not a good combo for that position in the Premier League. Any chance we can get Big Vic back from Spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 This was a very poor signing. Surely our scouts/Koeman would have realised he would struggle physically in a fast league like the PL? Was clear after a couple of games that he was so lacking. When you compare him to someone like Lemina, one has the physical attributes to be a good PL central midfielder and the other is so far short, especially when we also have Romeu who visibly struggles in the last 20mins of matches, hence often making stupid fouls. The Clasie signing always smacked of Koeman doing a mate a favour more than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 But he seems sweet, you know? A very lovable little chap. If we try and sell him he might cry, and that would only increase my desire to give him a hug. What on earth are you on about? Stupid post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 The Clasie signing always smacked of Koeman doing a mate a favour more than anything else.did you listen to the SaintsFC podcast where a stato showed that Clasie had the best win % of any saints player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 The Clasie signing always smacked of Koeman doing a mate a favour more than anything else. and neither did he want to take him to Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 I imagine Jordy will go out on loan again. Can't see too many takers in Holland for paying £40k+ a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 25 May, 2018 Share Posted 25 May, 2018 No as Clasie has not left the club. so? When a player is loaned out, his wages may be paid by his current club, the club that he is being loaned to, or a combination of both ie subsidised by the current club. And yes the club he joins on loan may also pay a fee. It varies. What was the financial structure of this particular loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 25 May, 2018 Share Posted 25 May, 2018 The Clasie signing always smacked of Koeman doing a mate a favour more than anything else. To be fair, he did look quite good in the 2014 world cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Clasie wants Feyenoord return. The 27-year-old departed Feyenoord for Southampton in 2016 but has failed to impress in England and spent last season on loan with Club Brugge in Belgium. Speaking to Metro, Clasie confirmed he wants a move back to the Netherlands with his family no longer happy abroad, “Abroad is simply not something for us, we were unhappy.” Clasie still has two-years left on his contract with Southampton, who have reportedly put a €10 million asking price on his head. The fee may be too high for Feyenoord, but Clasie is hoping the club bring him back to Rotterdam, “For me there is only one option and that is Feyenoord. The transfer amount can indeed be a problem, but perhaps the club sells some more players.” The midfielder is even willing to drop his wages in order to be back in the Netherlands. Karim El Ahmadi is set to depart Feyenoord this summer for a considerable fee but it remains to be seen whether the club are willing to splash the cash to bring Clasie back. Source: http://www.football-oranje.com/clasie-wants-feyenoord-return/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Clasie wants Feyenoord return. Source: http://www.football-oranje.com/clasie-wants-feyenoord-return/ Glad to hear that he is willing to take a wage cut. We desperately need to offload players like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Glad to hear that he is willing to take a wage cut. We desperately need to offload players like this. Yeah. The squad is pretty heavy in places. It's not like the fee would even have to be huge for Jordy either, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Glad to hear that he is willing to take a wage cut. We desperately need to offload players like this. Agree. I was excited about signing him, but for whatever reason he's been a failure and just not suited to the league. Shame as I wanted to like him playing for Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Yeah. The squad is pretty heavy in places. It's not like the fee would even have to be huge for Jordy either, really. We’re quoted a fee of 10m euro. Prob let him go for less tbh. Just didn’t have what it takes unfortunately- time to cut our losses me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 I think there will be a fair bit of trimming going on this summer, we've got a fair amount of players on probably fair wages not getting a shot. Clasie just isn't cut out for life in the PL, amazingly though he has the highest win % of anyone else in our squad. Although thats not hard, given that we sold most of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 I think there will be a fair bit of trimming going on this summer, we've got a fair amount of players on probably fair wages not getting a shot. Clasie just isn't cut out for life in the PL, amazingly though he has the highest win % of anyone else in our squad. Although thats not hard, given that we sold most of them... Yeah. There's probably a fair few that will leave at least on loan: - Boufal - Forster - Clasie - Carillo (?) - Hesketh - Reed - Gallagher - Seager - Barnes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van Hanegem Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 When Vilhena and El Ahmadi both leave there might be a chance for Clasie at Feyenoord. I reckon it will be on loan then as Feyenoord will never pay more than 6 million euro’s. I’ve always doubted if Clasie could make it in the PL but I wouldn’t mind to see him back in de Kuip as the Dutch league is a totaly different story. Maybe he could also help to prevent the young talents at Feyenoord leaving too soon for the big 6 where they usually don’t stand a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 6 July, 2018 Share Posted 6 July, 2018 Soon to rejoin Feyenoord, apparently https://readsouthampton.com/2018/07/06/feyenoord-reportedly-set-to-complete-clasie-deal/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 6 July, 2018 Share Posted 6 July, 2018 Soon to rejoin Feyenoord, apparently https://readsouthampton.com/2018/07/06/feyenoord-reportedly-set-to-complete-clasie-deal/ Good move for all parties if it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 6 July, 2018 Share Posted 6 July, 2018 Soon to rejoin Feyenoord, apparently https://readsouthampton.com/2018/07/06/feyenoord-reportedly-set-to-complete-clasie-deal/ Not a big surprise never worked out here he just didn't seem suited to the PL or fit enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 6 July, 2018 Share Posted 6 July, 2018 Not a big surprise never worked out here he just didn't seem suited to the PL or fit enough. Yes, totally ineffective which you would put down to being too small were it not for players like Kante who has won the league twice. Obviously a combination of stature and fitness in this case. No excuse for the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 6 July, 2018 Share Posted 6 July, 2018 Yes, totally ineffective which you would put down to being too small were it not for players like Kante who has won the league twice. Obviously a combination of stature and fitness in this case. No excuse for the latter. size can be important (you do need people that can win headers for example), but speed across the ground is a significant reason why Kante so effective. Looking closer to home, the likes of Morgan and Cork at their best just eat up the yards, enabling them to close people down, get a foot in and turn ball over time after time. Players like Clasie and JWP just do not effect opponents enough or get close enough to them to trouble them. Opposing players just go about their business without ever feeling under pressure. That can't happen. When it does, eventually it costs you as they have time to get their heads up and pick a pass. At the level we are at, we need midfielders that can play with and without the ball. We can't settle for players like Clasie who can be passengers in games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 6 July, 2018 Share Posted 6 July, 2018 Good luck to him I guess. Didn't seem to have any attributes other than getting stuck in. Sort of an unfit Lee Cattermole, without the horrific tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 6 July, 2018 Share Posted 6 July, 2018 I remember that after the WC Saints were liked with Clasie and Rojo . Thought to be good buys back then but that is the WC factor . Also see Careses etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 July, 2018 Share Posted 7 July, 2018 http://sportwitness.co.uk/suggestion-southampton-unreasonable-transfer-talks-player-exit/ Sounds like we want a lot of money for him & Feynenoord want a loan deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 7 July, 2018 Share Posted 7 July, 2018 Already completed the move back apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 July, 2018 Share Posted 7 July, 2018 Already completed the move back apparently Loan or Permanent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van Hanegem Posted 7 July, 2018 Share Posted 7 July, 2018 Good to see Clasie still has that quality pass... http://voetbalflitsen.nl/nieuws/dknz21/martin-van-geel-let-je-op-wereld-assist-jordy-clasie-in-oefenduel-schalke-04-southampton-video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 7 July, 2018 Share Posted 7 July, 2018 Good to see Clasie still has that quality pass... http://voetbalflitsen.nl/nieuws/dknz21/martin-van-geel-let-je-op-wereld-assist-jordy-clasie-in-oefenduel-schalke-04-southampton-video Beautiful pass. In fact that was a really good passage of play. Tidy finish too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 7 July, 2018 Share Posted 7 July, 2018 Hilarious that people thought this flop was a Schneiderlin replacement before he even played a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 July, 2018 Share Posted 7 July, 2018 Seems odd we took him to China if he was on the cusp of moving clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 7 July, 2018 Share Posted 7 July, 2018 Seems odd we took him to China if he was on the cusp of moving clubs Yeah that's exactly what I thought. I reckon Sparky is having a good look at him before making a decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 7 July, 2018 Share Posted 7 July, 2018 Loan or Permanent? Not sure but he’s pretty sure it’s 100% done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 7 July, 2018 Share Posted 7 July, 2018 He's quite slight compared to Kante. This photo of him next to Memphis Depay from a few years ago is damning. I don't know if he's bulked up since but he definitely needed to beef up when playing in the physical Premier League. (And no, I didn't Google "Jordy Clasie" naked, I just remember seeing this photo from a few years ago. Honest.) I also think Clasie has talent, but even if he stayed he'd be behind Romeu, Hojbjerg and Lemina (if we can keep hold of him) in the pecking order so it's probably best he leaves for first team football. Additionally we need to raise funds for signings. Taider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 8 July, 2018 Share Posted 8 July, 2018 Sheez just reading this thread is giving me goosebumps for the next Ajax-Feyenoord derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van Hanegem Posted 8 July, 2018 Share Posted 8 July, 2018 Sheez just reading this thread is giving me goosebumps for the next Ajax-Feyenoord derby. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 8 July, 2018 Share Posted 8 July, 2018 Thought that he struggled under Koeman to adapt to English football, got an injury but then later in that season started to find the level. Then when under Puel he played mainly in cup games he looked a class act. I think he is under valued by most fans, but looks like he is on his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 8 July, 2018 Share Posted 8 July, 2018 Will always think fondly of him. That goal away at West Brom is probably the last Saints goal I will have ever seen in person alongside my father. His career didn't go as intended, but he clearly has ability. All the best to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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