hypochondriac Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Great first half, defended well second Personally why did Howe play the 2 he took off, they were poor, Murray shocking, he got his tactics wrong first half Pelle,Davis,Cedric and vic were particularly good Both goals top drawer Because as they said on the radio, with Wilson out they don't have many other attacking options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 I thought that I was watching the Leicester game again. Fortunately Bournemouth don't have a Jamie Vardy. Why do we drop off in the second half? The first half was men against boys. Don't think that Wanyama missing the Sunderland game is a big deal. He wasn't really in the game much after the booking. It felt like one of those cup games against lower league teams, when they huff and puff a bit but never really threaten. Forget the hype about this being a derby. The Spurs game last year had more feeling, let alone any of the recent games against Pompey. Todays game was just for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 First half we were able to play high up the pitch and as a result dominated the game and played very well. Once King came on our back 4 dropped deeper and it was a role reversal as their back 4 pushed up and we had no outlet ball. A Long or a Rodriguez coming on for Pelle to run the channels and push them back would have helped us massively, although even if they had been fit I doubt RK would ever use that option. Pelle was fantastic in the first half but won nothing in the second. B'mouth played some nice football without creating chances. They don't just need a goal scorer, they need players who will create chances Yep our centre backs were happily raiding into the Bournemouth half with the ball because all they had to worry about was that old cart horse Glenn Murry as soon as they brought on some pace our defence had to drop deeper makes you wonder why Bournemouth didn't start with their second half team and formation in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 On the train home. Fairly predictable result that went with form. Not as worried as many about the second half, I think it was complacency over quality. Non football highlight of the day was the cherries fans being escorted to the ground frothing at the mouth and hurling abuse at my mate in the pub who's a season ticket holder at dean court and had been drinking with us all afternoon and having a good laugh. His response of pure embarrassment and confusion was hilarious. Four hours drinking in a home pub and the only abuse he got was from his own fans! Sadly I have to say on the back of that I think the cherries will drop. They really lacked class, and even with us dropping off second half I wasn't ever really worried. Them and Norwich have both looked like championship clubs at st Mary's this season and I struggle to see how they'll stay up. As for us VVD looks quality, really happy with his signing and his composure pushing out of defence is a great replacement for Morgan. Also thought Cedric really stepped up a level today and is looking close to where clyne was last season (plus the he's our Cedric song to the tune of she's electric is great). I still think we'll finish close to our position last season, the squad is stronger and we can take an injury or suspension in a way we couldn't last season. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 First half goals from Steven Davis and Graziano Pellè, who scores yet again. Thought Clasie was pretty impressive while he was on, and Cédric just keeps on improving. Shouldn't have let up second half like we did, but got away with it this time. ,,,,,, You are joking re Clasie, surely? The last time I saw a player so out of his depth was Ali Dia You really are a dinosaur tuck off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Good thing we were knocked out of Europe as we don't seem able to play two games in a week even with a few changes! is it fitness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Fitzhugh's last obsession was with Tadic being useless so there's little point taking his comments about Claise too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Fitzhugh's last obsession was with Tadic being useless so there's little point taking his comments about Claise too seriously. He's been proven horribly wrong about Tadic so will have to find another player to dismiss as being useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Good thing we were knocked out of Europe as we don't seem able to play two games in a week even with a few changes! is it fitness? Despite winning both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Despite winning both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 They were bound to come out pressing in the 2nd half, with a player like Mane in our side they would be susceptible to being caught on the break, but for some reason we did not offer any threat at all. A better side would have done us in the 2nd half, we became panicky all of a sudden, passes were going astray, Pelle could not do a thing right in total contrast to his first half, and our tackles were getting desperate and we ended up punting long balls in desperation. I don't know if this is a mental thing or some sort of gone wrong ploy by ronald but it needs to be addressed as we wont get away with it against better sides. Weirdly, we don't seem to do it away from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Whilst we were shocking in that 2nd half, I think you also have to look at how Bournemouth approached the game. They got it wrong in the first half, they played with Murray too isolated and they had no pace or guile to support him, so they sat deep and just invited us on time and time again. To our credit, we made the most of the space and produced some excellent deliveries for both goals. We had them for toast down their flanks on numerous occasions in that 1st half, and 2-0 was the least we deserved based on that showing. The 2nd half was a different game all together. The 2 subs bournemouth made changed the game, because straight away it joined their midfield and attack with pace and trickery (very similar to the 2 changes Leicester made against us). I think we were caught a little by surprise at their impact and their change of game plan, as we were so comfortable for the first 45 mins. So yes, whilst we were well below par in that 2nd half, Bournemouth at least made a game of it. Not sure what happened to Fonte? Assuming it was a precaution? That did unsettle us from the outset to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Not sure what happened to Fonte? Assuming it was a precaution? That did unsettle us from the outset to be honest. Felt his hamstring. So wasn't risked in the 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 We could still be playing now and B'mouth still wouldn't have scored. We were totally in control despite their "pressure". It was so very easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 We could still be playing now and B'mouth still wouldn't have scored. We were totally in control despite their "pressure". It was so very easy. I think we lost control as the 2nd half went on, they just lacked the quality to punish our slackness - and trust me, a better side would have taken advantage of how often we were handing it back to them today. Luckily, they just don't have the ability right now. A lot of huff and puff, but we did bring alot of it on ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 We could still be playing now and B'mouth still wouldn't have scored. We were totally in control despite their "pressure". It was so very easy. To be fair, they were missing 6-7 of their best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 I think we lost control as the 2nd half went on, they just lacked the quality to punish our slackness - and trust me, a better side would have taken advantage of how often we were handing it back to them today. Luckily, they just don't have the ability right now. A lot of huff and puff, but we did bring alot of it on ourselves. Nah, it was easy. It was just like a L2 team having a go in a cup game. Lots of huff and puff but no class where it matters and go away soundly beaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 First half goals from Steven Davis and Graziano Pellè, who scores yet again. Thought Clasie was pretty impressive while he was on, and Cédric just keeps on improving. Shouldn't have let up second half like we did, but got away with it this time. ,,,,,, You are joking re Clasie, surely? The last time I saw a player so out of his depth was Ali Dia You are so clueless. "i would be happy if Tadic never plays for Saints again". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 FFS where did that 2nd half come from!!? Was sitting back waiting for us to roll at least another 2 in. Fair play to Bournemouth but I have seriously never seen any side so totally dominate a half and then get owned like we did in the 2nd. Amazing really but we got 3 points so, ulimately, who gives a f#ck. You obviously weren't at the Leicester game then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Great first half, shockingly bad second half. That was the worst 2nd half performance since Leicester. I really don't buy this Leicester/Boscombe were great second half. ********. We bring it on ourselves, and I don't understand why. Luckily today Boscombe had no-one of the quality of Mahrez or Vardy to hurt us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Brilliant 1st half. Horrendous 2nd half. If they had an average striker/forward line, we would have dropped at least 2 points. Vardy showed what can be done. Cedric was my MOM. Excellent performance. Pelle was not far off Clasie was alright and tadic just seems miles better on the left. But to see us surrender possession, initiative and everything else to a side without their best players, awful in defence and who keep getting beat is actually quite worrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 They look nailed on to get relegated, Bournemouth. Only hope is their injured lot get back soon and up to speed. Can't see it though in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Stop crying about the second half. It was like reserve game. This! Great match. Not a great second half to watch as a fan, but we did what we needed to do; soaked up the inevitable pressure post half-time bollocking and didn't let them score without wasting too much energy in scoring more goals. Job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 We could still be playing now and B'mouth still wouldn't have scored. We were totally in control despite their "pressure". It was so very easy. Again, this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 I thought Soares was excellent, really growing into a little warrior. He's our Cedric ......... He's very good. Have been impressed with him and Classie. We have the makings of a very nice team here. The only downside was Wanyama's stupid tackle, but everyone does something needless once in a while and let's face it, he may have stopped a goal and he's only going to miss Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Missed the game unfortunately. From this thread, if it was such a bad Saints 2nd half performance, how did Bournemouth only manage 2 shots on target? Looking forward to seeing the highlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Missed the game unfortunately. From this thread, if it was such a bad Saints 2nd half performance, how did Bournemouth only manage 2 shots on target? Looking forward to seeing the highlights. because their forward line is shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Well at least all the action was up the Northam End, feel sorry for the Chapel!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Again, this. Long way from that game at theirs all those years ago eh mate! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Well at least all the action was up the Northam End, feel sorry for the Chapel!!!!!!!!!!!! The most action we saw down our end was the people firing t-shirts into the crowd at half time. Also, what was up with the tannoy? I know it's normally not great but it was an unintelligible dirge today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Don't quite know what happened there , at 2-0 they were gone , finished , yet we were so poor second half that we gave them a sniff . Just glad it was boscombe , because a half decent side would have punished us ( as Leicester did). . I thought Cedric was our best player second half, defended well . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 The most action we saw down our end was the people firing t-shirts into the crowd at half time. Also, what was up with the tannoy? I know it's normally not great but it was an unintelligible dirge today. it seemed really quiet on weds just gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Long way from that game at theirs all those years ago eh mate! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Totally, good memories, great day out that was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 I had flashbacks to 'that' Leeds game all second half I do most games when we are ahead and then fall asleep, but anyone who sat through 'that' Sheffield United match after Stern John was sent off would have developed a strong constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 So easy. Good god they are terrible. Never in doubt. No it wasn't. No they weren't - especially in the second half. Well I was sweating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Blimey, bit of an over reaction on here. Yes we conceded possession in the second half but it took them until the 86th minute to have a decent shot on goal. We were in no danger in the second half. It was like a training exercise. Poor challenge from Vic for his second yellow. He had an up and down game. Terrible back pass in the first half that should have led to us conceding. Our two goals were lovely pieces of play, as was much of the first half. Cherries had nothing in the final third, that is a major concern for them, but meant that the players were much more in control than the fans on here, and many in the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 We could still be playing now and B'mouth still wouldn't have scored. We were totally in control despite their "pressure". It was so very easy. Maybe so, but is it not a concern that we can't hold on to the ball even against a side with so little ammunition? Unfortunately, most sides we play for the rest of the season will be much better and if we play so poorly for half the game, we will get punished - just like against Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latheal Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 As good a first half as I had seen us play for some time. Both goals things of beauty. Thought Clasie offered us something different in there and his movement to gain space and then play to feet was excellent. The front four were also excellent - the whole team were to be honest. Was worried about the missed chances as we're nowhere near as solid as last year and there was no way they could be as bad 2nd half... Wanyama on a booking is like carrying a man. The more I see of him, the more £20mil looks like a Lovren-like deal. Can't pass, can't organise...yes he's a presence but as soon as he takes a booking, he is an accident waiting to happen and he loses the one thing that he does do well - the ability to tackle. That sending off has been coming for weeks. Would also rather have players playing who want to be here. Not singling him out, we completely stepped off second half. Tadic and Mane seemed to be in no man's land defensively second half, exposing both fullbacks - Pelle couldn't hold it up or when he did, there was nobody to pass to. Clasie tired and without Fonte, there was no leader. Still, Fonte was there for the Leicester match and it was pretty much the same. Its 3pts, but it should have been a 4 or 5-0 game - Koeman needs to sort that - the obvious sub in the second half was Wanyama for Romeo (and if Clasie was struggling for fitness, then JWP for him) - doesn't leave us exposed with 10 men. Maybe there is a bit of pandering to Wanyama to try and get him to sign a new contract. At the end of the day, somehow we are 7th, with a plus goal difference, unbeaten in 7, plus home qf in the cup - lots to be happy with. I also think there is more to come as well and look forward to seeing it. Pelle (2nd half not included) looks like a man possessed. Oh, and can we keep Tadic on the left please. Would be an interesting stat to see how many assists he has from the left, compared to the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Think Tadic deserves a mention. Cross for Pelle's goal awesome Cedric inch for inch was excellent today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 1 November, 2015 Share Posted 1 November, 2015 Thought that was going to be back to one of our big wins playing well for 90 mins. But second half was absolutely dire, just like Leicester. Difference was Bournemouth didn't have any goalscorers. Isn't enough nerve in the team, shouldn't be panicked at 2-0 up! Tactics weren't great, could have gone more offensive, didn't test their very average keeper anywhere near enough. Yes Bournemouth came out and did well, but I really hate seeing sides outwork us, there's no excuse for that. If we'd matched their effort levels second half we'd have probably scored a couple more. As for Wanyama, he was poor throughout and the sending off was always coming. Why take Clasie off instead? Really thought Wanyama for Ramirez at half time and keep going at them, calmly keep the ball, they have to come forward, then pick them off. Should have been simple but that half was painful to watch. Shouldn't miss Wanyama too much at Sunderland with Claise and JWP or Romeu. This sitting deep second half is a tactic which Koeman needs to sort out pronto !!!! It is happening happening more than you have actually highlighted. Man U, Liverpool even Villa the other night to some extent and probably others too... We are 30 yards too DEEP - sort it out!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 November, 2015 Share Posted 2 November, 2015 Missed the game unfortunately. From this thread, if it was such a bad Saints 2nd half performance, how did Bournemouth only manage 2 shots on target? Looking forward to seeing the highlights. They don't have Vardy up front. They got through our defence several times in the second half but when they needed someone to pull the trigger of finish the move they had no quality at all. There was one move where their players played right through our left hand side with some nice one-twos. One of their players then heads into our area and just needs to put it on a plate for several of his team mates queuing up to take a shot somehow he instead ends up belting it right across the pitch to no one. It was like that all second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 2 November, 2015 Share Posted 2 November, 2015 We'll be in trouble if we play like that in the second half without a 2 goal cushion. I'm not sure if it is just complacency or a change in tactics. Luckily we'd already won the game but could easily have drawn or lost against a better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 November, 2015 Share Posted 2 November, 2015 Fonte has hamstring injury. Koeman said hopes he will be available for Sunderland. I'd be inclined to rest him for Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 2 November, 2015 Share Posted 2 November, 2015 I'd be inclined to rest him for Stoke. Rest him? Stoke is 2 weeks after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 2 November, 2015 Share Posted 2 November, 2015 He's been proven horribly wrong about Tadic so will have to find another player to dismiss as being useless I just don't know why people don't give players time before they make a judgement, you would have thought they would have learnt by now. Classie has come from a different league, been injured and played three incomplete games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 November, 2015 Share Posted 2 November, 2015 Rest him? Stoke is 2 weeks after. Its a hamstring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 2 November, 2015 Share Posted 2 November, 2015 Important win, sad for B'mouth as nobody wants to see them get beaten. Pella though what a fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 2 November, 2015 Share Posted 2 November, 2015 I'd be inclined to rest him for Stoke. We could look to rest him for the remainder of the season as we're clearly not going to reach Europa League. Whilst we're at is let's also rest Pellé, Tadic and Mané too this season is a write-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 November, 2015 Share Posted 2 November, 2015 We could look to rest him for the remainder of the season as we're clearly not going to reach Europa League. Whilst we're at is let's also rest Pellé, Tadic and Mané too this season is a write-off. Very, very stupid post. Hamstrings need to be thoroughly rested. If Koeman thinks he can do the biz against Sunderland with Maya, Fonte shouldnt be risked lest we lose him for Stoke and ManC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 2 November, 2015 Share Posted 2 November, 2015 Very, very stupid post. Hamstrings need to be thoroughly rested. If Koeman thinks he can do the biz against Sunderland with Maya, Fonte shouldnt be risked lest we lose him for Stoke and ManC. But if Koeman, the player and the medical team think Fonte is 100% fit and they want to play him, they'd be wrong to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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