S-Clarke Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 Chelsea look so broken. I've never seen Jose look so vulnerable before, he's seemingly a dead man walking. I can never in my life time remember a Mourinho team which surrenders most weeks as easily as this.
farawaysaint Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 Chelsea look so broken. I've never seen Jose look so vulnerable before, he's seemingly a dead man walking. I can never in my life time remember a Mourinho team which surrenders most weeks as easily as this. It's nuts, the only explanation that presents is the players or Jose are doing it on purpose.
S-Clarke Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 It's nuts, the only explanation that presents is the players or Jose are doing it on purpose. Something has gone tits up there, look at pre-season and the way they couldn't get the targets they wanted, their **** pre-season results and then the physio-gate. Lots has gone on there behind the scenes.
The9 Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 Just out of interest, is Diego Costa also injured or did he get the hook after 33 minutes for tangibly not giving a toss?
S-Clarke Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 Just out of interest, is Diego Costa also injured or did he get the hook after 33 minutes for tangibly not giving a toss? Injured, again.
The9 Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 Oh, and let's not underestimate Stoke - this sort of sums it up: "Substitution, Stoke City. Xherdan Shaqiri replaces Ibrahim Afellay."
S-Clarke Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 Oh, and let's not underestimate Stoke - this sort of sums it up: "Substitution, Stoke City. Xherdan Shaqiri replaces Ibrahim Afellay." And then given the fact that it's also a cold, wet, windy night up in Stoke.
The9 Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 Seem to be a LOT of injuries tonight - if they weren't for teams and players with regular midweek European matches I'd be mooting some half-baked theory about not being properly prepared for midweek games in colder evening conditions. However...
The9 Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 Shaquiri can be great, but Afellay hasn't done anything in years now. Stoke look pretty poor most weeks when I see them, not as good as previous seasons especially defensively. First game back for Shawcross which might make a difference. And yeah, the names are more impressive than the product, but I'm just being easily impressed by a bloke who was at Barcelona 9 years ago.
The9 Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 chelsea have equalised 90th minute no less. Bardsley sent off for Stoke too in 93rd minute, with extra time to come in 3 of the 4 games.
The9 Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 Well, three penalty shoot outs, come on the underdogs...
The9 Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 (edited) Well, three penalty shoot outs, come on the underdogs... Chelsea, Leicester (and Arsenal) out, better than hoped. Edited 27 October, 2015 by The9
brett24 Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 No away wins tonight! There will be at least one tomorrow and Liverpool, City and Utd look to be bankers! Plus Villa are a bogey team! Not confident!
Matthew Le God Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 Chelsea and Arsenal out, better than hoped. And yet many Saints fans want Koeman to put out a weakened side tomorrow.
VectisSaint Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 Plus Villa are a bogey team! Really? Don't usually beat bogey teams 6-1.
stevegrant Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 No Benteke for Liverpool tomorrow night against Bournemouth...
stevegrant Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 Really? Don't usually beat bogey teams 6-1. Since returning to the PL: P6 W3 D2 L1 F14 A6. Some bogey team.
St Lej Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 When it comes to cup competitions I think its fair to take it on a case-by-case basis. The infamous Sunderland defeat in February 2014 came in a competition where a maximum of only two of the 'Big Six' would make it through to the 1/4 finals (Spurs and United already out and Liverpool/Arsenal/Chelsea/City running into each other), along with plenty of easily-beatable lower-league fodder guaranteed to make it through. It turned out that had we beaten Sunderland (who played just as weak a team as we did by the way, and would certainly have been there for the taking if we had gone for it), we'd have been two cup fixtures against relegation strugglers Hull City and third-tier Sheffield United away from a cup final against Arsenal that we genuinely could have won. All in all, given the way the cup opened up for us that year, it was a huge opportunity missed for a club of our size and people were justifiably angry. However; this year's league cup competition just hasn't gone that way. The big guns have all avoided each other, we haven't got as strong as squad as we did two years ago and aren't as liberated from the perils of a potential relegation battle as we were then. As such, in this case I'd be happy to play a second-string team. If we 'wake up' in the Semi-Finals then of course, let's go for it, but it looks very likely that we'll simply be faced with a run of big clubs that will prove to be a bit of a brick wall. What a complete load of tosh this post now looks.
S-Clarke Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 The competition is already opening up, get through tomorrow and I'll start to think about actually winning this thing.
St Lej Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 The competition is already opening up, get through tomorrow and I'll start to think about actually winning this thing. "This is our ****innn year mate"
Appy Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 Would be so typical Saints to lose tomorrow after tonight's results.
The Cat Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 Win tomorrow. Draw Sheff Weds away in the quarters. 3000 Saints up there again for a dismal defeat.
nta786 Posted 27 October, 2015 Posted 27 October, 2015 Win tomorrow. Draw Sheff Weds away in the quarters. 3000 Saints up there again for a dismal defeat. Was Sheffield United last season I believe.
Cosmic Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 Don't think we'll see more than a few changes from Liverpool game.
brianu Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 -------------Stek-------------- Yoshida Fonte VvD Bertrand ---------Romeu Clasie-------- -----Davis Gaston Tadic------ --------------Pelle-------------
Jack Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 (edited) Win tomorrow. Draw Sheff Weds away in the quarters. 3000 Saints up there again for a dismal defeat. We've had some dismal days there to be fair! I Remember the game there in the Burley days when we let their f*cking keeper equalise in injury time. Edited 28 October, 2015 by Jack
JRM Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 We've had some dismal days there to be fair! I Remember the game there in the Burley days when we let their f*cking keeper equalise in injury time. Just count yourself lucky you weren't at the 5-0 defeat in our championship relegation year, terrible performance and I remember Kelvin Davis losing it with some of our fans behind the goal. I'm pleased with last night's results but won't give them too much thought until we are actually through as well, I allowed myself to get carried away forward planning in the Europa league for us to go out anyway. There is definitely a 'northern' look to this competition now would expect the last 8 to be ; Sheffield Wednesday Hull Stoke Everton *Manchester United *Manchester City *Liverpool So there is a lot of responsibility on our shoulders to keep the southern flag flying. I'd play Stekelenburg Cedric Fonte Van Dyke Targett Romeu Clasie Ward-Prowse Ramirez Pelle Juanmi Bench - K. Davis, S. Davis, Yoshida, Tadic, Bertrand, Seager
The Cat Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 Was Sheffield United last season I believe. It was. I was at the game. By "there" I meant Sheffield.
The Cat Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 Solid team that JRM. With the probability of all those Northern teams in the next round we could really do with a hone draw if we get through. Strange to think that Stoke could be the most Southern team left.
eddie Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 It's our fuking yeaaaaar lets hope! more likely, we'll cruise through next round and get drawn against wednesday, and they'll pinch a winner jus' sayin
Shance Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 Strongest side possible please. How great would it be for another top side to drop out today OR for the quarters to be Saints v Hull then a mersey side and manchester derby. Fingers crossed the big teams drop out. We could get to a final at last!!!
Saint Charlie Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 Anyone think we may see the cocktail tonight?
Professor Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 Some in the media saying RK will rotate the squad tonight but that can only be speculation. RK tends to limit the changes he makes for the cups and this time he has the enforced resting of Mané, together with the unavailability of JRod and Long, so tonight's team is likely to be quite similar to last Saturday's starting line-up. My guess would be no more than three changes and a strong bench.
DT Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 Dear Ron, please don't play Kelvin tonight. We will lose. This is a big chance to progress to the quarter finals. Please play as strong a side as possible.
eddie Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 Some in the media saying RK will rotate the squad tonight but that can only be speculation. RK tends to limit the changes he makes for the cups and this time he has the enforced resting of Mané, together with the unavailability of JRod and Long, so tonight's team is likely to be quite similar to last Saturday's starting line-up. My guess would be no more than three changes and a strong bench. It isn't speculation - He said himself that he wants to rotate the squad. Just have a look on saints media. He put it in a positive light - basically saying that we've got a very strong squad, not just the starting 11, so that fringe players deserve a chance to get a game. He didn't say cup doesn't matter - he was just saying that we have enough quality to give some players a rest and others a chance. I think that's fair enough. I could see someone like caulker and romeu getting in, maybe ramirez also. But since we have some injuries and suspensions, bottom line is certain players (pelle, tadic, etc) will definitely play.
The9 Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 Dear Ron, please don't play Kelvin tonight. We will lose. This is a big chance to progress to the quarter finals. Please play as strong a side as possible. If you can think of one reason which isn't "Stekelenburg isn't available" why he would do that, I'll be impressed.
The9 Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 No away wins tonight! There will be at least one tomorrow and Liverpool, City and Utd look to be bankers! Plus Villa are a bogey team! Not confident! This isn't 1996, Saints very rarely mess up like this any more (ok, Midtjyllland and Sheff Utd), why the "we will lose to everyone" stress?
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 This isn't 1996, Saints very rarely mess up like this any more (ok, Midtjyllland and Sheff Utd), why the "we will lose to everyone" stress? My only real concern about tonight is our ability to make Gabby Agbonlahor look like Romario over the years.
The9 Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 Some in the media saying RK will rotate the squad tonight but that can only be speculation. Someone hasn't been paying attention... Decisions I can see being relevant. Assuming players other than Mane, Long, Rodriguez, McQueen are fit. Stekelenburg unless Koeman really needs to see Gazzaniga. Playing Davis is nonsensical by any measure other than 2 injuries. Usual back 4 - unless Koeman wants to rest Cedric (Yoshida or Martina could start), or wants to give Caulker a run (Van Dijk or Fonte could be rested). Can't see Bertrand missing out as he's only just come back. Midfield - we won't play Wanyama AND Romeu, but Romeu is the obvious replacement if Wanyama is rested. Clasie seems likely to play to get him more gametime. JWP didn't start on Sunday but Tadic did. Juanmi will probably start and Ramirez will appear at some point. Juanmi is a possible Pelle replacement (as we played without Pelle in the last round) but so far has played as an AM. It's very difficult to know which midfield options RK will go with: -----Stekelenburg Cedric-Fonte-VVD-Bertrand -----Romeu-Clasie JWP-Ramirez-Juanmi --------Pelle But it could just as easily be ----Romeu-JWP Tadic-Clasie-Juanmi ------Pelle or ----Romeu-Clasie JWP-Ramirez-Juanmi ------Pelle or he might pick Wanyama. We could have Mane/Long/Rodriguez all back on Sunday for AFCB so that's got to be a consideration.
VectisSaint Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 It's very difficult to know which midfield options RK will go with: -----Stekelenburg Cedric-Fonte-VVD-Bertrand -----Romeu-Clasie JWP-Ramirez-Juanmi --------Pelle But it could just as easily be ----Romeu-JWP Tadic-Clasie-Juanmi ------Pelle or ----Romeu-Clasie JWP-Ramirez-Juanmi ------Pelle or he might pick Wanyama. We could have Mane/Long/Rodriguez all back on Sunday for AFCB so that's got to be a consideration. But probably he will play Davis who you seem to have forgotten...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 I don't think Long or Jay will be back for Sunday from what RK has said.
Dalek2003 Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 It isn't speculation - He said himself that he wants to rotate the squad. Just have a look on saints media. He put it in a positive light - basically saying that we've got a very strong squad, not just the starting 11, so that fringe players deserve a chance to get a game. He didn't say cup doesn't matter - he was just saying that we have enough quality to give some players a rest and others a chance. I think that's fair enough. I could see someone like caulker and romeu getting in, maybe ramirez also. But since we have some injuries and suspensions, bottom line is certain players (pelle, tadic, etc) will definitely play. Good to hear that RK is rotating the squad as I was hoping. Not only does it give some of the other players a chance to prove themselves in a competitive game, it keeps our 'first teamers' fresh for the next league game.
SaintStinger Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 We are a much better side than Villa and if we turn up i can't see us losing. We have such a strong squad this season.
cambsaint Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 Although one of the two Manchester clubs must be favourite to win, as long as we avoid one of them we have a great chance of reaching the finals. I really hope RK gives it a real go. The final against Forest was a great experience, I watched it with my late father. He bought us a great fillet steak lunch in Harrow, and he had just bought his first automatic Audi and I almost put him through the windscreen when I automatically went to use the clutch in Wembley car park! Heart permitting I would love to be at next years final with my son. Football finals are about fond memories almost as much as the result.
Batman Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 Let's be honest, villa are Shyte this season. We will make a couple of changes but I can't see changes that will raise an eyebrow. Juanmi, gaston, rom, caulker will probably feature Getting knocked out tonight will be a dire result. Going for a 3-1 win in normal time
wilson_ding Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 Know what time the home team will arrive at st. Mary's??
Saint Fan CaM Posted 28 October, 2015 Posted 28 October, 2015 Is this being televised and/or will it be streamed?
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