Koeman to Holland...(?)

[Batman]

Let me ask the question: Why would he?

 

if you need that answering.........

[Lallana's Left Peg]

if you need that answering.........

 

I do. Go for it.

[scotty]

I think Koeman would leave for holland the moment they came calling and the job was available.

regardless of what he says about not going anywhere.

 

why wouldnt he

 

Holland are very likely to come calling, and sooner rather than later I'd have thought. So if you really believe he'll jump ship, now is the time to get your money down.

[saint_roffa]

in 2013, the KNVB (Dutch FA) offered Ronald the job of assistant to the to be appointed head coach Hiddink (with the perspective of becoming head coach when Hiddink retired) - when Ronald had made it known he was available as head coach himself.

 

Ronald refused, probably offended. The job of assistant then went to Blind, and Koeman ended up at Southampton.

[Fan The Flames]

I do. Go for it.

 

Because he was a Dutch warrior that gave everything to win for Dutchland and because of that he became one of their best footballing sons. He must hate what is happening to his national side and is one of a few people in the world who is in the position to do something about it.

[pluto]

I note that PR rentboy darren lewis is also talking ****e in the mirror about Koeman.

[Batman]

I note that PR rentboy darren lewis is also talking ****e in the mirror about Koeman.

 

What's he saying?

[CB Fry]

What's he saying?

Talking ***** like this:

 

"He has been excellent in his role in charge of the Saints"

 

"It would be a hammer blow for Southampton, however, if Koeman left."

 

You know, talking ******.

[LostBoys]

Usual s***e from the Daily Fail and Talk s***e

 

Next Holland game (from TV last night) September 2016?

[CB Fry]

Usual s***e from the Daily Fail and Talk s***e

 

Next Holland game (from TV last night) September 2016?

 

Next qualifier. I would think they will very popular friendly opponents pre-France 2016.

[Viking Warrior]

I have a good feeling he will extend his contract with us . Managing a national team is a poison chalice

Having said that how the hell has hodgson lasted so long

[Saint IQ]

I doubt he wants to be a part time manager at this time in his career, plus holland won't be on a big stage till 2018 at the earliest so that's not exactly going to get a high profile manager excited at his age. He'll probably think this isn't a good time to take the Holland job also.

[pluto]

Five WC qualifers whilst Koeman is still under contract.

 

I think he adds another year and then finishes in May 2018 and in September 2018 starts the Holland job with Euro 2020 Qs

 

The only likely job available in 2017 is Arsenal's and i think they would want someone for years and that would stop Koemans dutch job.

[CB Fry]

Five WC qualifers whilst Koeman is still under contract.

 

I think he adds another year and then finishes in May 2018 and in September 2018 starts the Holland job with Euro 2020 Qs

 

The only likely job available in 2017 is Arsenal's and i think they would want someone for years and that would stop Koemans dutch job.

 

He'd have to win a trophy or two with us to get anywhere near the Arsenal job, and even then he wouldn't get it.

 

The chances of Koeman being he in summer 2018 seem remote to me. If he sees this season out and does one more that will be your lot. What I think will happen is he will sign a rolling "extension" to avoid a year of will he/won't he nonsense but leave in Summer 2017 anyway.

 

He will obviously be the Dutch coach one day, hopefully later rather than sooner.

[mrfahaji]

I have a good feeling he will extend his contract with us . Managing a national team is a poison chalice

Having said that how the hell has hodgson lasted so long

 

I don't understand all his decisions but you could make a case that Hodgson has done a decent job with a distinctly average England side. International football is generally pretty dull and uninspiring.

[CB Fry]

I have a good feeling he will extend his contract with us . Managing a national team is a poison chalice

Having said that how the hell has hodgson lasted so long

By winning every single game?

[Winnersaint]

Not sure the Dutch job is the one he really hankers after. Maybe his sights are further south and west of St Mary's.

[diggers]

Not sure the Dutch job is the one he really hankers after. Maybe his sights are further south and west of St Mary's.

 

Freshwater United FC??

[scotty]

I have a good feeling he will extend his contract with us . Managing a national team is a poison chalice

Having said that how the hell has hodgson lasted so long

 

An excellent question. I suppose it's possible that hodgson is popular with the top 6 Premiership management teams, for some reason. That situation would certainly keep him in his job and out of the poorhouse.

[angelman]

It might be a case of who else is there other than Hodgson? There is a desire to go English/British and that doesn't leave a lot of people.

[van Hanegem]

Five WC qualifers whilst Koeman is still under contract.

 

I think he adds another year and then finishes in May 2018 and in September 2018 starts the Holland job with Euro 2020 Qs

 

You're probably right, qualification for WC 2018 is not going to be easy for Holland with France and Sweden as the strongest opponents and only the number one will qualify directly (which will be France imo). This tournament might come too early for our current youngsters but for the qualification for EC 2020 they'll have the right age and experience and only need a decent coach.

[The9]

Hodgson was never going anywhere until the Euros, whether he continues after the summer without at least a QF appearance I seriously doubt. He came in at short notice for the 2012 Euros and at the time plenty of people were saying "write off the 2014 World Cup and build for 2016". He didn't, and persisted with the likes of Gerrard way too long and now there's still a gap at DM because no-one's had time to step up and the opposition hasn't really posed a threat that would test England defensively. So 2014 was a write off anyway, he can't get sacked when he's winning 10 straight in qualifications, and after the Euros he's had 3 major tournaments and there's no hiding any more.

 

Pardew has obviously been on his best behaviour this season on the off-chance.

[Lallana's Left Peg]

"no possibility"

 

From the man himself.

[Saint_clark]

How many times does he have to say it before people understand.

[Saint-Armstrong]

Koeman when asked about potentially leaving Southampton for the Holland job: "No way. No possibility."

 

 

Went on to say maybe in the future, but he has another year with Southampton after this current season.

 

Criticised the make-up of the Dutch FA, saying it's 'crazy' that there is no football man on the board.

 

Won't rule out managing Holland in future, but it depends on certain things happening in Holland.

[Chalkboy]

Suppose the headlines will be "Koeman doesn't rule out Holland job."

[the saint in winchester]

Not sure the Dutch job is the one he really hankers after. Maybe his sights are further south and west of St Mary's.

 

Torquay?

[Saint_clark]

Koeman when asked about potentially leaving Southampton for the Holland job: "No way. No possibility."

 

 

Went on to say maybe in the future, but he has another year with Southampton after this current season.

 

Criticised the make-up of the Dutch FA, saying it's 'crazy' that there is no football man on the board.

 

Won't rule out managing Holland in future, but it depends on certain things happening in Holland.

 

After the recent article where he criticised the way youth development is handled in Holland sounds like he might not be taking the job unless a major overhaul occurs.

[Greenridge]

http://au.eurosport.com/football/ronald-koeman-i-m-happy-at-southampton_sto4950927/story.shtml

[melmacian_saint]

Torquay?

 

Would be quite attractive if they played top level football IMO.

[Professor]

There is view that the daily mail is not a newspaper in the accepted sense but is a right-wing propaganda sheet masquerading as a newspaper in order to encourage people to read it. As a propaganda sheet is of no value if no one looks at it, it must carry items that will attract attention. This theory postulates that readers will absorb some of the propaganda items while looking at the stories that attracted them. Speculation about players and managers at Premier League clubs is one way of drawing people to the paper. These stories don't have be true as long as they can be made to appear credible. The Koeman article is good example. Truth is immaterial as long as it is superficially believable. Much of the player transfer speculation probably is similar as indicated by how little of it proves to be true.

[Viking Saint]

I have a good feeling he will extend his contract with us . Managing a national team is a poison chalice

Having said that how the hell has hodgson lasted so long

 

Maybe the FA fall asleep the second he opens his mouth and they can't bin him whilst asleep....I have to confess that the prospects of England are a distant second to Saints...the options for the next England manager look pretty slim to me..who would you want as England boss??

[PhilippineSaint]

Maybe the FA fall asleep the second he opens his mouth and they can't bin him whilst asleep....I have to confess that the prospects of England are a distant second to Saints...the options for the next England manager look pretty slim to me..who would you want as England boss??

 

Thequestion should be who will we get and it will either be Fat Sam after he saves Sunderland or Alan Pardew after he has taken CP to the edge of Europe and they start stagnating there.

[CB Fry]

Hodgson was never going anywhere until the Euros, whether he continues after the summer without at least a QF appearance I seriously doubt. He came in at short notice for the 2012 Euros and at the time plenty of people were saying "write off the 2014 World Cup and build for 2016". He didn't, and persisted with the likes of Gerrard way too long and now there's still a gap at DM because no-one's had time to step up and the opposition hasn't really posed a threat that would test England defensively. So 2014 was a write off anyway, he can't get sacked when he's winning 10 straight in qualifications, and after the Euros he's had 3 major tournaments and there's no hiding any more.

 

Pardew has obviously been on his best behaviour this season on the off-chance.

People that say "write off [the next tournament] and build for the [tournament after that]" are, frankly, Talksport-ian idiots.

 

What would be the point of being intentionally rubbish or selling tickets for matches knowing there's a high chance if throwing the match driven by knowingly selecting a sub standard team. Secondly a flop qualification campaign would be a utterly harrowing experience for the players involved.

 

There's this nice little preconception that chucking a load of young kids to fifteen months of utter failure, humiliation and national opprobrium would magically and conveniently turn that same group into a high performance winning machine just in time for the very next qualification campaign (the one we're not going to "throw away" of course) but being that the manager will have been hounded out by then and the players may well be figures of derision and/or fun, I'm not so sure.

 

I'd also wonder how much better than 30 points out of 30 our "write off 2014" alternative squad would have been.

 

Or, they are partying in the streets of Amsterdam this weekend knowing that the 2018 WC campaign is going to be an utter triumph. Watch out for the Greeks too - they've written 2016 off so much I think I'll stick a tenner on them winning the whole damn thing.

[david in sweden]

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After the recent article where he criticised the way youth development is handled in Holland sounds like he might not be taking the job unless a major overhaul occurs.

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of course he's peppered with questions about Holland at every press interview.

Interesting that he commented (yesterday) that ..." there wasn't a " football man" at the (Dutch) Federation ".

 

Think that was a more meaningful statement, (that I've heard elsewhere). Too many bureaucrats and not enough real football nous.