Batman Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 I loved the way he stood up to the camera and to not hide/take responsibility. yet went on to blame everyone and everything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Not to say anything about the 5 yellows we picked up today compared with their two. How did we ever deserve 5 yellows in that game!? the referee put in one of the most incompetent displays I've seen in a while....and that's saying something...I hope he watches his own performance on video. ....and even BT's " slow-mo" replay showed that Falcao dived and it wasn't a pen. He did get that decision right. Our two shouts would ....on another day....both have resulted in penalties, but not perhaps.... at Stamford Bridge. You've got big troubles, Jose.....and "another big trouble" returns from his suspension next match. The next time he gets in a punch-up... it'll be a 10 match ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 also, the level of performance from pedro is staggering incredible trophy cabinet and has starred for barca, now looks shyte.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Not to say anything about the 5 yellows we picked up today compared with their two. How did we ever deserve 5 yellows in that game!? That 1st half performance by the ref was one of the worst I have ever witnessed How did we get 3 players booked for their 1st tackle of the game, yet Ramires got away with about 5 before he was eventually booked. The 2 pens for us, he had a perfect view of each, but failed to see VVD's shirt virtually being taken off his back, and he seemed to be about to blow for a pen with Mane but changed his mind. Maybe Mane made just a bit too much of it, and paid the price by getting booked the next time he was taken out!! The icing on the cake was reacting to Chelsea fans claiming the ball wasn't in the right place as Davis was about to take a corner ..... yes Chelsea fans appealing and he jogged 20 yards to check it!! I'd loved to have seen Moronio's meltdown if he'd been on the receiving end of those decisions!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 That 1st half performance by the ref was one of the worst I have ever witnessed How did we get 3 players booked for their 1st tackle of the game, yet Ramires got away with about 5 before he was eventually booked. The 2 pens for us, he had a perfect view of each, but failed to see VVD's shirt virtually being taken off his back, and he seemed to be about to blow for a pen with Mane but changed his mind. Maybe Mane made just a bit too much of it, and paid the price by getting booked the next time he was taken out!! The icing on the cake was reacting to Chelsea fans claiming the ball wasn't in the right place as Davis was about to take a corner ..... yes Chelsea fans appealing and he jogged 20 yards to check it!! I'd loved to have seen Moronio's meltdown if he'd been on the receiving end of those decisions!! Sums it up. The whistle indecision and corner quadrant nonsense suggest a weak referee. Mourinho got to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Sums it up. The whistle indecision and corner quadrant nonsense suggest a weak referee. Mourinho got to him.personally I thought the ref did OK, it looked a penalty in realtime and a weak ref could have taken the easy option by giving it.A massive call. i was moaning about him booking ours for 1 foul and Ramires not getting booked until his fourth. The ref wasn't looking at the the shirt pull to be fair. I feel he is not a bad ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Is there anything better than this win? Arguably watching the smile wiped off the face of a smug, arrogant, w&Kner come close and is very very ice to watch. What a total toss-pot. Lolling out loud all week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 In his post match interview on Sky it seemed like he was almost daring Chelsea to sack him! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Is there anything better than this win? Arguably watching the smile wiped off the face of a smug, arrogant, w&Kner comes close and is very very nice to watch. What a total toss-pot. Lolling out loud all week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 personally I thought the ref did OK, it looked a penalty in realtime and a weak ref could have taken the easy option by giving it.A massive call. i was moaning about him booking ours for 1 foul and Ramires not getting booked until his fourth. The ref wasn't looking at the the shirt pull to be fair. I feel he is not a bad ref Fair enough but I'm not really sure what you mean. If it looked a penanlty in real time and the ref went to blow the whistle and changed his mind why is that good reffing? If he wasn't looking at the penalty area when a corner was being taken then he should have been. Wher else should he look? (maybe he was watching Chelsea fans playing up near the corner flag). And what about that corner quadrant rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 In his post match interview on Sky it seemed like he was almost daring Chelsea to sack him! lol I thought this too! He basically said he was the best manager in the world & Chelsea could do no better! He definitely isn't on this planet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Blaming the ref is a classic defection tactic by a losing manager, but in this case the whole world could see through that as they weren't on the wrong side of decisions. Serious questions are going to be asked about his ability to turn it round and hopefully he won't. If he had any class or really was special he'd admit to his and his teams mistakes, offer some praise to saints and then tell the world he'd be working hard to out things right. Instead he acts like a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Fair enough but I'm not really sure what you mean. If it looked a penanlty in real time and the ref went to blow the whistle and changed his mind why is that good reffing? If he wasn't looking at the penalty area when a corner was being taken then he should have been. Wher else should he look? (maybe he was watching Chelsea fans playing up near the corner flag). And what about that corner quadrant rubbish. I think you're making a meal out of nothing. What does it matter what he did with his whistle just as long as he didn't blow it? It's an automatic reaction to start to raise your whistle in anticipation of a foul which may not actually materialise. Surely it's better then to hesitate before making your final decision. And what was wrong with checking the position of the ball at the corner? It only took a couple of moments and it was his responsibility as it was the opposite corner to his two assistants. He won't be the first to miss a shirt being pulled at a corner and in these circumstances you would look to more help from your assistants although normally they would be reluctant to make such a significant decision from the touchline. He was ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 I think you're making a meal out of nothing. What does it matter what he did with his whistle just as long as he didn't blow it? It's an automatic reaction to start to raise your whistle in anticipation of a foul which may not actually materialise. Surely it's better then to hesitate before making your final decision. And what was wrong with checking the position of the ball at the corner? It only took a couple of moments and it was his responsibility as it was the opposite corner to his two assistants. He won't be the first to miss a shirt being pulled at a corner and in these circumstances you would look to more help from your assistants although normally they would be reluctant to make such a significant decision from the touchline. He was ok. who was OK? not the ref? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Blaming the ref is a classic defection tactic by a losing manager, but in this case the whole world could see through that as they weren't on the wrong side of decisions. Serious questions are going to be asked about his ability to turn it round and hopefully he won't. If he had any class or really was special he'd admit to his and his teams mistakes, offer some praise to saints and then tell the world he'd be working hard to out things right. Instead he acts like a ****. Agreed. Something is obviously wrong throughout the team and it would do take somebody really special to turn this round. I don't think it's him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 who was OK? not the ref? Yep, that's him. Seriously, looking at it objectively, what have you got against his performance? If we played them there again next week would your u want somebody else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Yep, that's him. Seriously, looking at it objectively, what have you got against his performance? how come AGAIN, you are the only one in the football world that thinks that about the officials his first half performance was attrocious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Yep, that's him. Seriously, looking at it objectively, what have you got against his performance? If we played them there again next week would your u want somebody else? You are deluded, of course we'd want someone else he missed to stone cold penalties for saints and missed another number of fouls, however koeman didn't mention that unlike the deluded Jose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Sorry Whitey the bloke had absolute stinker, Ramirez taking 4 goes to get a card despite trashing Saints players with vigour twice in his opening contacts, Romeu clips Hazard early on as he has done him for speed covering defender in place, bang in the book instead of a polite word. His performance can summed up by Pelle making a solid defensive block on Hazard in the middle of a skirmish of players goes down like he has been taken out by a sniper in the floodlights yet again, ref books Graziano yet he hasn't had to have one single word with him for 80 minutes about fouling anyone. I think when he got home to his wife for tea he probably told her that he had a bad day at the office, when she asked. (And that ungrateful whatsit still had the temerity to criticise him post match). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 I think you're making a meal out of nothing. What does it matter what he did with his whistle just as long as he didn't blow it? It's an automatic reaction to start to raise your whistle in anticipation of a foul which may not actually materialise. Surely it's better then to hesitate before making your final decision. And what was wrong with checking the position of the ball at the corner? It only took a couple of moments and it was his responsibility as it was the opposite corner to his two assistants. He won't be the first to miss a shirt being pulled at a corner and in these circumstances you would look to more help from your assistants although normally they would be reluctant to make such a significant decision from the touchline. He was ok. He was awful. I've explained why I think that. Just add that we got 5 bookings to their 3. That didn't reflect the play in my opinion. Their's a lot of pressure on refs and generally thye do well but this one seemed to yield to the pressure of the home crowd and to Mourinho's constant carping about being hard done by. He was better second half. I'll give him that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 You are deluded, of course we'd want someone else he missed to stone cold penalties for saints and missed another number of fouls, however koeman didn't mention that unlike the deluded Jose Wonder if they would have been mentioned by Ron if we had lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Ungracious cock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 (edited) It was a penalty. Clearly. Falcao didn't help himself by going down slightly early but if he hadn't he would still have been cleaned out by the keeper. Which makes it a penalty under the current laws; it's not the laws from years ago, you don't have to be totally upended for it to be a justifiable penalty. If the attacker has to jump out of the way of a foul to not get struck but misses his opportunity to strike then its still a penalty. But he didn't miss his opportunity to strike he had lost control of the ball and it was going out so he decided to seek a pen as the opportunity had gone! However the laws as they stand would still give him a pen that is what is so wrong about them! In my view a Pen should only be awarded where a goal scoring opportunity is denied but hey ho FIFA are in charge of the laws so enough said! In any event if it was or wasn't a pen is not relevant, we were denied two that were more blatant and also game changing and had we been awarded them would have made the Chelsea one an irrelevance, without the need to cry about them. Teams like Saints have had decades of not being given decisions against the big boys especially away without crying about it Jose needs to stop playing the victim and sort his team of misfit superstars out whilst giving Saints credit for a great team performance that literally played his team off the park. Edited 4 October, 2015 by Saint Without a Halo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 4 October, 2015 Author Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Wonder if they would have been mentioned by Ron if we had lost? He'd of mentioned it no doubt but he wouldn't have gone on a 7 minute rant about how we don't get decisions like that **** did yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Wonder if they would have been mentioned by Ron if we had lost? He mentioned them. "Maybe, if they had one penalty we had two penalties...." - Koeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 I think the problems with Chelsea is that everything is about Mourinho and his ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Jose should perhaps take a leaf out of our Ronald's book from earlier in the season. The seven man defence strategy to get us over the humping by Everton seems to have calmed us defensively and we have looked far more solid and in turn better offensively since then. Long may it continue for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 He is quickly becoming a parody of himself. The man is a bit of a loon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 ......don't think I need to say so much about him.... he always has so much to say about himself .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Well MoTD made him look like a right **** last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 5 October, 2015 Share Posted 5 October, 2015 Their biggest problem, signings aside is his tactics. I mean it's obvious Ivanovic needs a break. Terry is slow but he's their leader and should probably play with Zouma, and Rahman should play left back for more balance with Azpilacueta right back. Fabregas isn't a DM, play him further forward, he got loads of assists last season. I'm sure he knows what his "problems" are, but he persists with them anyway. He's after the payoff, but scratching around for "none of it is my fault" face savers. It's the classic "everyone is conspiring against me" strategy. He's so arrogant he can't see the face-saving just isn't working this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 5 October, 2015 Share Posted 5 October, 2015 It was a penalty. Clearly. Falcao didn't help himself by going down slightly early but if he hadn't he would still have been cleaned out by the keeper. Which makes it a penalty under the current laws; it's not the laws from years ago, you don't have to be totally upended for it to be a justifiable penalty. If the attacker has to jump out of the way of a foul to not get struck but misses his opportunity to strike then its still a penalty. Well, Dermot Gallagher disagrees with you (as do many others). Falcao knew there wasn't enough room to go around Stek so started diving before any contact was made. His was not a penalty. Whereas, both of the ones we should have had were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 5 October, 2015 Share Posted 5 October, 2015 All he had to do, was drop the ref nonsense, say they were outplayed, say it's not good enough and need to regroup etc., and the rest of his comments would have been fine. He's completely misreading everything and seemingly going insane. Agree, but wonder if had more time passed after the game he would have calmed down and realised his team were outplayed. Sticking a mic under a manager's nose 5 mins after the game ends is likely to get a hot-heated response. I'd be interested in his comments now, 36 hours later. If he were to be of the same opinion as at 7pm Sat night, I would be concerned about his sanity. He made the Keegan meltdown interview appear like child;s play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 5 October, 2015 Share Posted 5 October, 2015 Well, Dermot Gallagher disagrees with you (as do many others). Falcao knew there wasn't enough room to go around Stek so started diving before any contact was made. His was not a penalty. Whereas, both of the ones we should have had were. After all the debate on here I watched the Falcao incident on the recordings. It's actually quite comical the way he twists his body in mid air in order to stick his legs out to the right and get both feet together to touch Stekelenburg on the upper chest on his way down. Of course if he'd only used one leg it would have been even more obviously a dive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 5 October, 2015 Share Posted 5 October, 2015 ......and so ....the Special One has finally got the dreaded " vote of confidence from the Chelsea Board ". Football's Kiss of Death. It buys time for Abrahamovic to find his replacement - without causing panic amongst fans, or giving the media a field day. It means two weeks - and you're out ....unless you pick up the next 6 Prem. points, and don't lose the next CL game. Let's not hold our breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 5 October, 2015 Share Posted 5 October, 2015 Breaking news from BBC - Mourinho charged Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho has been charged for misconduct in relation to media comments he made following Chelsea’s game against Southampton on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 5 October, 2015 Share Posted 5 October, 2015 Breaking news from BBC - Mourinho charged Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho has been charged for misconduct in relation to media comments he made following Chelsea’s game against Southampton on Saturday. For not admitting we were the better side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 October, 2015 Share Posted 5 October, 2015 Yep, that's him. Seriously, looking at it objectively, what have you got against his performance? If we played them there again next week would your u want somebody else? The ref's first half performance genuinely had me thinking about conspiracy theories, because nobody can be that consistently wrong arbitrarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 5 October, 2015 Share Posted 5 October, 2015 It was a penalty. Clearly. Falcao didn't help himself by going down slightly early but if he hadn't he would still have been cleaned out by the keeper. Which makes it a penalty under the current laws; it's not the laws from years ago, you don't have to be totally upended for it to be a justifiable penalty. If the attacker has to jump out of the way of a foul to not get struck but misses his opportunity to strike then its still a penalty. So by your own judgement if Falcao went down before he was touched he should had been done for diving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 5 October, 2015 Share Posted 5 October, 2015 The ref's first half performance genuinely had me thinking about conspiracy theories, because nobody can be that consistently wrong arbitrarily. By 'consistently wrong' what exactly are you referred by to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 October, 2015 Share Posted 16 October, 2015 (edited) See he is gobbing off and moaning about wenger..... Again The man has been a disgrace this season http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34546118 Edited 16 October, 2015 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 16 October, 2015 Share Posted 16 October, 2015 See he is gobbing off and moaning about wenger..... Again The man has been a disgrace this season http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34546118 I do think that Mourinho should complain about referees in the future simply by calling them weak and naïve. It will be interesting to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 16 October, 2015 Share Posted 16 October, 2015 I do think that Mourinho should complain about referees in the future simply by calling them weak and naïve. It will be interesting to see what happens. It's perfectly clear to everyone why Mourinho was fined and charged and Wenger not. Mourinho was quite clearly accusing referees of bias and casting doubts over their integrity, whereas Wenger was clearly right in saying that Costa was conning the referee in order to get a player sent off. There's a clear difference and however **** the referees have been it has not been because they're biased or crooked. I hope the FA ban him every time he opens his mouth frankly. The man is an embarrassment and it would be nice if the FA just forced him out of the league so he can go and talk his ******** somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 16 October, 2015 Share Posted 16 October, 2015 See he is gobbing off and moaning about wenger..... Again The man has been a disgrace this season http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34546118 He is clearly stressed. I don't think he's got long left until they get fed up with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 16 October, 2015 Share Posted 16 October, 2015 He is clearly stressed. I don't think he's got long left until they get fed up with him. Agree. His comments are now an embarrassment to the club. Regardless of results over the next few games, unless he is silenced, I think Chelsea will have to end his stress in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 16 October, 2015 Share Posted 16 October, 2015 P45 And then he will complain of bias because he's not getting tax credits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 October, 2015 Share Posted 16 October, 2015 Agree. His comments are now an embarrassment to the club. Regardless of results over the next few games, unless he is silenced, I think Chelsea will have to end his stress in this country. he spazzes out at 3 years with a club. it appears to be happening. quite funny how a few months ago, he laugh at wenger when the frenchman said in times when they had constraints on their spending because of the new ground, 4th was like a trophy to them. now, jose is saying 4th would do for chelsea...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 16 October, 2015 Share Posted 16 October, 2015 If Ancelloti turned down Liverpool, I wonder whether he might not be waiting for Chelsea to ask him back. Mourinho has gone from amusingly arrogant to boorishly arrogant. Very unattractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintletiss Posted 16 October, 2015 Share Posted 16 October, 2015 Mourinho's got a book coming out - hence the on-going 'rant' He just whoring around the press and as usual they'll print anything - sad really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 16 October, 2015 Share Posted 16 October, 2015 Mourinho's got a book coming out - hence the on-going 'rant' He just whoring around the press and as usual they'll print anything - sad really Good point! Pat Nevin was on Radio 5 the other night saying that "managers can't win" because we demend honesty in press conferences and criticise bland responses but then when they are honest they get clobbered by the FA. I think there is a point in there somewhere in a wider context but he was talking specifically about Mourinho and his sanction which would me up because Mourinho was clearly not being honest at all in his post-match comments after we tonked them. He has been moaning about a penalty which has correctly not been given and when he was asked his opinion on our two clear penalty shouts he refused to talk about them. Honest.... don't think so. I think most likely is that something really isn't right behind the scenes (the whole Dr episode was very odd) and he is trying to get sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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