Saints foreva Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Bitter ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyboy Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Quick quote from Jose: "The referees are afraid to give decisions for Chelsea. At 1-1, it is a huge penalty and once again we don't get. If the FA wants to punish me they can. They don't punish other managers. My players deserve it and the fans deserve it. Referees are afraid to give decisions for Chelsea, why because there is always a question mark and we are always punished. Clear penalties are not given." Oh ok Jose, so what about the TWO blatant penalties that Saints weren't given? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Jeweller Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Cheerio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 For the first time in his Chelsea career he actually has to MANAGE the team, and it isn't working. LOLOLOLOLOLOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 3 October, 2015 Author Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Quick quote from Jose: "The referees are afraid to give decisions for Chelsea. At 1-1, it is a huge penalty and once again we don't get. If the FA wants to punish me they can. They don't punish other managers. My players deserve it and the fans deserve it. Referees are afraid to give decisions for Chelsea, why because there is always a question mark and we are always punished. Clear penalties are not given." Oh ok Jose, so what about the TWO blatant penalties that Saints weren't given? Seriously? He walked off before anything else was asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 He's a deluded mentalist, trying to talk himself up and save his job. He's also an utter helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 T w a t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Not a single mention of saints in his whole innterview! Just excuse after excuse he even practically said he is the best manager in the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Rabbit Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Used to think very highly of Jose.... He's right...if they got that penalty decision that would have changed the complexity of the game.... But completely fails to mention our 2 stonewall penalties like they didn't even happen and weren't important. Complete f'ing ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Lost it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Hilarious. Utterly deluded. Eva and Arsene must we rolling on the floor laughing at that game and interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Used to think very highly of Jose.... He's right...if they got that penalty decision that would have changed the complexity of the game.... But completely fails to mention our 2 stonewall penalties like they didn't even happen and weren't important. Complete f'ing ignorance. Their claim was never a penalty so he has nothing to complain about. Falcao was rightly booked for his dive. Mourinho is just making himself look foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-scooby Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 P45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 He has seemingly lost his way, if you look throughout the season and the mess he has made of every single situation (The physio, john terry, matic, signings, games...). He has never looked as vulnerable as he does right now and he's not used to it, blurting out the referee line is pretty pathetic though. He's better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 The ramblings of a broken man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Stop the blame game Jose,accept the responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 I can't help but feel there must be some kind of internal issue that hasn't come out yet. The intriguing thing about this is he's never had this before and is clearly struggling with how the stop the rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 JM is frustrated as he doesn't know how to fix the problem. He has always been a grumpy **** but this seasons losses have shown his true colours. Many at the club believe him to be an impact manager with a three year itch. To be fair, my friend called it pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Their biggest problem, signings aside is his tactics. I mean it's obvious Ivanovic needs a break. Terry is slow but he's their leader and should probably play with Zouma, and Rahman should play left back for more balance with Azpilacueta right back. Fabregas isn't a DM, play him further forward, he got loads of assists last season. They could also keep their english players and give them a chance, because Bertrand and Sturridge would improve them right now. I think this is the problem. I can't help but feel their problem is their midfield defensive 2. Matic was key last season, and I think they should have signed another one this summer. You can bet that if those rumours about them wanting Big Vic in January were not true - then they probably are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Their claim was never a penalty so he has nothing to complain about. Falcao was rightly booked for his dive. Mourinho is just making himself look foolish. This. The player began his fall before Stek arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 It was a pen but so were both of ours and that also changes the game. To be honest he is a great manager but that interview did him know credit, nothing about how well Saints played and his decisions have been a bit odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 It was a pen but so were both of ours and that also changes the game. To be honest he is a great manager but that interview did him know credit, nothing about how well Saints played and his decisions have been a bit odd. ??? Nowhere near a penalty and rightly booked for it. Tucks both feet together and makes not attempt to keep running. 8.0 for artistic merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 FalCRAP should also have been sent off. The only tragedy was that we somehow only won 3-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 I know I'm a bit biassed, but couldn't understand why they didn't want Schneiderlin. He and Matic would be a fantastic midfield 2 and allow Fabregas to play his actual game. Agree completely. Ditto Arsenal/Liverpool. I find it astonishing only Man Utd bid for him. Mane and Van Dijk would improve them too, but these clubs don't seem to like taking a risk before the likes of Saints have signed them first. Players like Mane & Van Dijk (Wanyama too) are the exact sort of prototypical Saints signings that I love us getting - Players the big clubs look at, but don't think are ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WokingSaint Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 How on earth he can claim that was a penalty is unbelievable. The virtual dis-robing of Virgil and the two fouls on Mane should have been bolted on penalties. And he should not have been booked. The first half performance of that referee was a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 ??? Nowhere near a penalty and rightly booked for it. Tucks both feet together and makes not attempt to keep running. 8.0 for artistic merit. It was a penalty. Clearly. Falcao didn't help himself by going down slightly early but if he hadn't he would still have been cleaned out by the keeper. Which makes it a penalty under the current laws; it's not the laws from years ago, you don't have to be totally upended for it to be a justifiable penalty. If the attacker has to jump out of the way of a foul to not get struck but misses his opportunity to strike then its still a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 It was a penalty. Clearly. Falcao didn't help himself by going down slightly early but if he hadn't he would still have been cleaned out by the keeper. Which makes it a penalty under the current laws; it's not the laws from years ago, you don't have to be totally upended for it to be a justifiable penalty. If the attacker has to jump out of the way of a foul to not get struck but misses his opportunity to strike then its still a penalty. No. The attacker wasn't cleaned out by the keeper. Was it 'a trip or attempt to trip'? Of course not. The attacker must make some attempt to avoid the challenge but he just dived into it. It was a classic dive, and the referee agreed with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Mourinho: textbook narcissistic sociopath. Enough material in his post-match monologue for an entire academic conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 No. The attacker wasn't cleaned out by the keeper. Was it 'a trip or attempt to trip'? Of course not. The attacker must make some attempt to avoid the challenge but he just dived into it. It was a classic dive, and the referee agreed with me. if falcao stayed on his feet, it would have been a pen..... but he never and went down early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 if falcao stayed on his feet, it would have been a pen..... but he never and went down early Exactly. He had to leave his feet planted where Stekelenburg would arrive but of course his momentum kept him going forward so he ends up doing a classic dive. If anybody is still in any doubt then watch it again and see what Falcao does with his left foot, the blue one. He makes no attempt to put it forward for his next natural step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 https://mobile.twitter.com/senor_makay/status/650385186249641985/video/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Agree with Whitey, it was never a penalty....watch it again ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Had he given the Mane one he would have given it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 No. The attacker wasn't cleaned out by the keeper. Was it 'a trip or attempt to trip'? Of course not. The attacker must make some attempt to avoid the challenge but he just dived into it. It was a classic dive, and the referee agreed with me. You're only exposing your inability to understand the rules. The attacker must not make some attempt to do anything; the foul is judged by the challenge of the defender/keeper. If the attacker has to deviate from his course to the detriment of the attack then it is a foul/penalty. The rule has evolved in the past 5 years. Falcao definitely didn't help himself by going to ground too early. But just like Macmanaman against Targett, it should have been a penalty. The referee got it wrong, as he got loads wrong. The pucdits in the studio with the benefit of replay called it a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Standard 3rd season meltdown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 The new Fergie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Just saw this on MOTD Mourinho- 'we should've had a penalty etc etc Interviewer- 'What about Southampton's two claims in the first half?' Mourinho- 'I prefer not to comment' Pathetic. Didn't praise us once, and lost all respect I did have for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 The pucdits in the studio with the benefit of replay called it a penalty. Not on MOTD they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Definately not a penalty, would have been if he waited for the contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Just saw this on MOTD Mourinho- 'we should've had a penalty etc etc Interviewer- 'What about Southampton's two claims in the first half?' Mourinho- 'I prefer not to comment' Pathetic. Didn't praise us once, and lost all respect I did have for him. Made himself appear a knob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 (edited) Preferred this tbh. Jose: "They didn't give us a big penalty decision" Interviewer: "What about the Southampton penalty decisions?" Jose: "No comment" What a prïck, especially as MOTD showed Falcao dived and we deserved both pennos, 5-1 and he'd be gone. 'Special' my fućking arśe... Edited 3 October, 2015 by JxgrSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 You're only exposing your inability to understand the rules. The attacker must not make some attempt to do anything; the foul is judged by the challenge of the defender/keeper. If the attacker has to deviate from his course to the detriment of the attack then it is a foul/penalty. The rule has evolved in the past 5 years. Falcao definitely didn't help himself by going to ground too early. But just like Macmanaman against Targett, it should have been a penalty. The referee got it wrong, as he got loads wrong. The pucdits in the studio with the benefit of replay called it a penalty. They are laws, not rules. Many referees will expect the attacker to make at least some attempt to avoid a challenge or else he cannot be considered to have been tripped. Many attackers have to deviate their course to avoid a defender, it happens all the time in football. You certainly could not describe that as a 'trip or attempt to trip'. I don't know which pundits you are referring to but on MOTD they all agreed that the official referee, who is far more experienced than either of us, got the decision spot on. Did I remember that you were a referee yourself? If you were to give penalties for that sort of thing there would be half a dozen every game. (Your real name's not Mourinho by any chance?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 You're only exposing your inability to understand the rules. The attacker must not make some attempt to do anything; the foul is judged by the challenge of the defender/keeper. If the attacker has to deviate from his course to the detriment of the attack then it is a foul/penalty. The rule has evolved in the past 5 years. Falcao definitely didn't help himself by going to ground too early. But just like Macmanaman against Targett, it should have been a penalty. The referee got it wrong, as he got loads wrong. The pundits in the studio with the benefit of replay called it a penalty. Quinn said he wasn't sure if it was a pen but thought the yellow was harsh. BBC commentator and pundits said it was definitely not a penalty. It wasn't a penalty, Falcao had already started diving before The Stek got anywhere near him. Stek neither fouled him nor intended to foul him. Therefore no penalty. Whitey and others are absolutely correct. You and Jose have a contrary opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 The important wording in the Laws of the Game is 'considered by the referee to be'... The FA spends a lot of time trying to get a consistent approach across all levels of refereeing and most of the time they get it right. Getting full consistency across all referees is unlikely to happen but consistency throughout one game is not too much to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 3 October, 2015 Share Posted 3 October, 2015 Quick quote from Jose: "The referees are afraid to give decisions for Chelsea. At 1-1, it is a huge penalty and once again we don't get. If the FA wants to punish me they can. They don't punish other managers. My players deserve it and the fans deserve it. Referees are afraid to give decisions for Chelsea, why because there is always a question mark and we are always punished. Clear penalties are not given." Oh ok Jose, so what about the TWO blatant penalties that Saints weren't given? Seriously? "I am saying nothing". Wish that were true, Jose. Everyone else's fault, isn't it, mate? The players, the officials, the FA, the medical staff, the pitch, God..... just take a breath, Jose/ You're in a bad run. Every team has them. But stop bad-mouthing everyone around you..I give him until December. If Chelsea are not top 6 by then, Roman will have to act, to give his successor the Jan transfer window, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the colonel Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 Not to say anything about the 5 yellows we picked up today compared with their two. How did we ever deserve 5 yellows in that game!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 4 October, 2015 Share Posted 4 October, 2015 It was a penalty. Clearly. Falcao didn't help himself by going down slightly early but if he hadn't he would still have been cleaned out by the keeper. Which makes it a penalty under the current laws; it's not the laws from years ago, you don't have to be totally upended for it to be a justifiable penalty. If the attacker has to jump out of the way of a foul to not get struck but misses his opportunity to strike then its still a penalty. Glad you cleared that up. I didn't realise that all the pundits on Sky and MoD as well as the ref were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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