farawaysaint Posted 30 September, 2015 Share Posted 30 September, 2015 I can't say I'm too bothered about our largely foreign team because we've done our bit for English youth. We've got Chambers, Shaw, Lallana, Surman, Walcott, Chamberlain and Bale all out there who came from our youth team. The fact that they aren't here now is beyond our control. If every club put the effort in to youth we did, the Premier League would be flooded with talented English players. I'm just going to pretend you said British Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 30 September, 2015 Share Posted 30 September, 2015 Very much approve of the inverted commas around "English" as there isn't very much that is English about most teams in the higher levels of the Premier League, including I'm sad to say, Southampton. At least we still aren't as bad as some, despite our Swiss ownership and Dutch management as we do still have a smattering of English players and the prospects of others through the Academy. But the Big Four have really become foreign football clubs playing in the colours of what used to be English football teams, so how they get on in European competition is of no interest to very many English football fans. How very true - and how very regrettable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 30 September, 2015 Share Posted 30 September, 2015 We can play a quick game with Pelle. What some underestimate is the amount of attention he gets, which should free up time and space around him. The reason why all too often he hasn't been influential (as opposed to poor) away from home is not down to him but down to the defensive lineup and tactics we have deployed. Get the ball to him quick, on the deck, runners around him and behind the lines quickly and we can do a job on Chelsea. Go defensive with an absent midfield and we will get destroyed. When have we ever got the ball quickly to Pelle 'on the deck', is that likely against Chelsea's midfield? What's he gonna do, bend fd and trap it with his chest? Pelle has the turning circle of a supertanker and isn't a 'to feet' player. Why will we have an absent midfield? 3 from VW, Rom/SD/JWP are more than capable of DAJFU. Ideal scenario is to scrap and frustrate, score from a set piece/penno on 80 minutes and then battle to hang on. I predict heroics from VD (ooh), and Stek, hope Fonte is up for it, JWP to continue his recent performances, maybe an assist from Tadic. I doubt we will have time to breathe. let alone 'get runners around him'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 30 September, 2015 Share Posted 30 September, 2015 Very much approve of the inverted commas around "English" as there isn't very much that is English about most teams in the higher levels of the Premier League, including I'm sad to say, Southampton. At least we still aren't as bad as some, despite our Swiss ownership and Dutch management as we do still have a smattering of English players and the prospects of others through the Academy. But the Big Four have really become foreign football clubs playing in the colours of what used to be English football teams, so how they get on in European competition is of no interest to very many English football fans. The following our home grown players now playing for the big 4 from just our club. Oxlade - Arsenal Walcott - Arsenal Chambers - Arsenal Clyne - Liverpool Lallana - Liverpool Ings - Liverpool Morgan - United Shaw - United Not really that bad a spread of home grown talen amongst the big clubs, and hardly surprising that given we have sold that much of the golden generation we have to wait a couple of seasons for the next big bunch to come to fruition. Arsenal have a lot of British players, as do United and Liverpool, Chelsea have a lot coming through but its either too much fun to knock them or just other fan's ignorance in writing them off. They still play Terry and Cahil at CB most games regardless. As for our "smattering" We can still field Long, Bertrand, Targett, JWP, Reed, Hesketh, McQueen, Debyao, Seager, Gallagher, stephens, turnbull etc etc (e.g. the next generation) if we wished, not to mention having Forster injured. I don't think your comment is particularity fair on a lot of the top clubs nor on saints. You simply can't sell in the numbers we have and expect the next generation to be ready at the click of the fingers.... they are there, the club has committed to them and their development, but they just need a few years to develop. Then you have clubs like Everton and Spurs who are laden with British talents in recent years. Compared to the past 10 years the growth and numbers of English talents has certainly turned the corner and looks promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 September, 2015 Share Posted 30 September, 2015 The following our home grown players now playing for the big 4 from just our club. Oxlade - Arsenal Walcott - Arsenal Chambers - Arsenal Clyne - Liverpool Lallana - Liverpool Ings - Liverpool Morgan - United Shaw - United Ings is stretching it a bit. Anyway Liverpool are not Top 4 (Chelsea, Man City, Man U & Arsenal) Not sure how you include Long in the "smattering", he isn't British. You could however include Davis instead, as technically he is British, you could also include Caulker for that matter although on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 September, 2015 Share Posted 30 September, 2015 We can play a quick game with Pelle. We have never done so, so I'm not sure I see how you can say we can, there is no evidence to support the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 When have we ever got the ball quickly to Pelle 'on the deck', is that likely against Chelsea's midfield? What's he gonna do, bend fd and trap it with his chest? Pelle has the turning circle of a supertanker and isn't a 'to feet' player. Why will we have an absent midfield? 3 from VW, Rom/SD/JWP are more than capable of DAJFU. Ideal scenario is to scrap and frustrate, score from a set piece/penno on 80 minutes and then battle to hang on. I predict heroics from VD (ooh), and Stek, hope Fonte is up for it, JWP to continue his recent performances, maybe an assist from Tadic. I doubt we will have time to breathe. let alone 'get runners around him'. I think that's the most saintsweb sentence and set of acronyms I've ever seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 Have a feeling we can steal this one.Chelski are not at their best at present and although they have depth they seem disjointed.As long as we press them we'll expose their weaknesses. COYS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 I think that's the most saintsweb sentence and set of acronyms I've ever seen O RLY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 O RLY? YA, RLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 The following our home grown players now playing for the big 4 from just our club. Oxlade - Arsenal Walcott - Arsenal Chambers - Arsenal Clyne - Liverpool Lallana - Liverpool Ings - Liverpool Morgan - United Shaw - United Not really that bad a spread of home grown talen amongst the big clubs, and hardly surprising that given we have sold that much of the golden generation we have to wait a couple of seasons for the next big bunch to come to fruition. Arsenal have a lot of British players, as do United and Liverpool, Chelsea have a lot coming through but its either too much fun to knock them or just other fan's ignorance in writing them off. They still play Terry and Cahil at CB most games regardless. As for our "smattering" We can still field Long, Bertrand, Targett, JWP, Reed, Hesketh, McQueen, Debyao, Seager, Gallagher, stephens, turnbull etc etc (e.g. the next generation) if we wished, not to mention having Forster injured. I don't think your comment is particularity fair on a lot of the top clubs nor on saints. You simply can't sell in the numbers we have and expect the next generation to be ready at the click of the fingers.... they are there, the club has committed to them and their development, but they just need a few years to develop. Then you have clubs like Everton and Spurs who are laden with British talents in recent years. Compared to the past 10 years the growth and numbers of English talents has certainly turned the corner and looks promising. Was Ings ever at our club? Don't remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 We can play a quick game with Pelle. What some underestimate is the amount of attention he gets, which should free up time and space around him. The reason why all too often he hasn't been influential (as opposed to poor) away from home is not down to him but down to the defensive lineup and tactics we have deployed. Get the ball to him quick, on the deck, runners around him and behind the lines quickly and we can do a job on Chelsea. Go defensive with an absent midfield and we will get destroyed. That is why I like Mane behind Pelle. Pelle gets the attention. Mane speeds through and assists or scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MbaleSaint Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 The following our home grown players now playing for the big 4 from just our club. Oxlade - Arsenal Walcott - Arsenal Chambers - Arsenal Clyne - Liverpool Lallana - Liverpool Ings - Liverpool Morgan - United Shaw - United Clyne is a big stretch. I think Crystal Palace can claim him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 Was Ings ever at our club? Don't remember that. As a schoolboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 Koeman: "I'll decide tomorrow if Clasie is ready to be included in the squad vs Chelsea" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 Koeman: "I'll decide tomorrow if Clasie is ready to be included in the squad vs Chelsea" Wonder why he didn't play for the U21's on Monday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 Wonder why he didn't play for the U21's on Monday? It went well the previous time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 Koeman: "I'll decide tomorrow if Clasie is ready to be included in the squad vs Chelsea" The You Tube interview suggests not, or at least certainly not as a starter. No point rushing him as he can use the Intl break to get fully fit. Even when he played he looked a littlw heavy and slugish so wouldnt do him any harm to just have more training first before playing, especially as its Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 The You Tube interview suggests not, or at least certainly not as a starter. No point rushing him as he can use the Intl break to get fully fit. Even when he played he looked a littlw heavy and slugish so wouldnt do him any harm to just have more training first before playing, especially as its Chelsea. No it doesn't it says exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 The You Tube interview suggests not, or at least certainly not as a starter. No point rushing him as he can use the Intl break to get fully fit. Even when he played he looked a littlw heavy and slugish so wouldnt do him any harm to just have more training first before playing, especially as its Chelsea. No it doesn't it says exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 No it doesn't it says exactly that. You can say that again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 Also said that we have to play better than we did against Swansea, probably true but we weren't all that bad apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 nice to see Bertrand immediately back in the England squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 The BBC website says fans of Premiership clubs are all protesting against ticket prices. Are any Saints fans doing anything at the Chelsea game? Not attending would seem to be the only real way of protesting about prices, but I guess that isn't going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 The BBC website says fans of Premiership clubs are all protesting against ticket prices. Are any Saints fans doing anything at the Chelsea game? Not attending would seem to be the only real way of protesting about prices, but I guess that isn't going to happen. Threaten to bring back hooliganism unless ticket prices are lowered. That would hit them in the pocket, extra policing etc, far more than a few whinging fans could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 Ings is stretching it a bit. Anyway Liverpool are not Top 4 (Chelsea, Man City, Man U & Arsenal) Not sure how you include Long in the "smattering", he isn't British. You could however include Davis instead, as technically he is British, you could also include Caulker for that matter although on loan. From the perspective of a Passport you are correct but technically neither he nor I are British in that Great Britain comprises England Scotland and Wales. The UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Which brings me to one puzzle - why in the Olympics are we referred to as GB and Northern Ireland where it would be much more efficient to describe the team as UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 (edited) You can say that again In the You Tube interview RK says with the Intl break they may not risk him. Certainly makes it seem less rather than more likely he is involved. "Maybe its too fast for Jordy to be part of the team because its not necessary to take the risk" is the exact quote. Edited 1 October, 2015 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 From the perspective of a Passport you are correct but technically neither he nor I are British in that Great Britain comprises England Scotland and Wales. The UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Which brings me to one puzzle - why in the Olympics are we referred to as GB and Northern Ireland where it would be much more efficient to describe the team as UK. I know very well what the UK is. Definition of British, an adjective referring to something of, from, or related to the United Kingdom or the island of Great Britain. People born in Northern Ireland are technically British, whether or not they hold a British or Irish passport. My wife is definitely British, she was born in Northern Ireland. I would agree that she doesn't come from Great Britain, but that's another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 From the perspective of a Passport you are correct but technically neither he nor I are British in that Great Britain comprises England Scotland and Wales. The UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Which brings me to one puzzle - why in the Olympics are we referred to as GB and Northern Ireland where it would be much more efficient to describe the team as UK. Also, "British" as in British Isles, always good for an argument with an Irishman. We're GB and GBR for some reason, UK is never really used as an abbreviation, even with car stickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 No it doesn't it says exactly that. You can say that again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 Also, "British" as in British Isles, always good for an argument with an Irishman. We're GB and GBR for some reason, UK is never really used as an abbreviation, even with car stickers. I was told the Great Britain was the big island, the one on which I happen to live. Geographically all the rest are the British Isles, if not politically. Little Britain is now called Brittany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latheal Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 Worried Chelsea finally click and batter us - they can't go on like they have been for too much longer. On the flip side, their form suggests the game is winnable and they really struggle against pace at the moment. Think Koeman will fancy this one for a win. After all, its a "free hit" - we wouldn't expect much there normally so anything we get can be counted as a bonus. Stek Soares Fonte Virgil Betrand Vic Romeu Tadic RW Jay Rod LW Mane Number 10 Long (swap with Pelle in 2nd half after we have got an early goal and need to hold the ball up :-)) We did well there 1st half last season with pace and a front three without Pelle. Ivanovic seems to be having a mare at the moment, so get somebody to run at him early. Would play Romeu as its his former club and has something to prove. May well be too attacking, but both Tadic and Jay Rod will track back, and Mane will scare the living daylights out of them. There is so many ways RK could line up here, its actually quite refreshing to not know what he is going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonnick Posted 1 October, 2015 Share Posted 1 October, 2015 Preview now up on my blog: http://www.theitchenperspective.blogspot.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 They are obviously going to find form against us. 3-1 loss i think, sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 Not sure that they will "obviously" find form against us. They are struggling at the back and as long as we put pressure on them we have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 If we have Betrand and Tadic down the left against an out-of-form Ivanovic, there's always a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 If we have Betrand and Tadic down the left against an out-of-form Ivanovic, there's always a chance. Yep. Get Mane over that side of the pitch as well at times and we'll cause problems. --------------Stek Cedric - Fonte - VvD - Bertrand -----Wanyama - Romeu JWP-----------------------Tadic ----------------Mane ----------Pelle Or Davis for JWP, sitting in front of the midfield 2 with Tadic left and Mane right. Got to get at them either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 The following our home grown players now playing for the big 4 from just our club. Oxlade - Arsenal Walcott - Arsenal Chambers - Arsenal Clyne - Liverpool Lallana - Liverpool Ings - Liverpool Morgan - United Shaw - United Not really that bad a spread of home grown talen amongst the big clubs, and hardly surprising that given we have sold that much of the golden generation we have to wait a couple of seasons for the next big bunch to come to fruition. Arsenal have a lot of British players, as do United and Liverpool, Chelsea have a lot coming through but its either too much fun to knock them or just other fan's ignorance in writing them off. They still play Terry and Cahil at CB most games regardless. As for our "smattering" We can still field Long, Bertrand, Targett, JWP, Reed, Hesketh, McQueen, Debyao, Seager, Gallagher, stephens, turnbull etc etc (e.g. the next generation) if we wished, not to mention having Forster injured. I don't think your comment is particularity fair on a lot of the top clubs nor on saints. You simply can't sell in the numbers we have and expect the next generation to be ready at the click of the fingers.... they are there, the club has committed to them and their development, but they just need a few years to develop. Then you have clubs like Everton and Spurs who are laden with British talents in recent years. Compared to the past 10 years the growth and numbers of English talents has certainly turned the corner and looks promising. Very good summary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 On recent form - and if we can perform as well away as at home - we could play Chelski off the park in the first half. Crucially, it will be whether we can sustain this into the second half. That will decide the outcome. I will be overjoyed if we hold on for a draw. 2-2 for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 This is The Guardian's take on the match: 'Don’t tell José Mourinho, but exasperating loyalty to under-performing players is a distinctly Arsène Wenger-esque trait. Actually, do tell Mourinho, as that may be the best way to convince him to drop Branislav Ivanovic this weekend. The Serb is one of the Premier League’s finest defenders of recent times and has given years of excellent service to Chelsea but he has been utterly hapless so far this season, much more so than the benched John Terry. It has been almost painful to watch a once-great defender be targeted by every opponent. Continually picking him does not appear to be doing him any favours and certainly isn’t helping the team. If Ivanovic plays this weekend, expect Sadio Mané and Dusan Tadic to take turns tormenting him, with the fit-again Ryan Bertrand raiding forward to join in the fun on a regular basis. The solution is not merely staring Mourinho in the face, it is grabbing him by the lapels and bawling “Cesar Azpilicueta on the right, Baba Rahman on the left” at the top of its voice. Mourinho’s refusal to pay heed is mystifying. PD' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 Can see them starting Rahman, Azpilicueta and Terry tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 On recent form - and if we can perform as well away as at home - we could play Chelski off the park in the first half. Crucially, it will be whether we can sustain this into the second half. That will decide the outcome. I will be overjoyed if we hold on for a draw. 2-2 for me. As long as Ronald has learned the lesson from last week not to take Davis off so that the tempo of our game is destroyed then we could be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 Can see them starting Rahman, Azpilicueta and Terry tbh. Cant see Terry starting after the torrid time Mane gave him last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 Can see them starting Rahman, Azpilicueta and Terry tbh. Mane should have a field day against terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 We're going to win 0-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 Can see them starting Rahman, Azpilicueta and Terry tbh. playing rahman for first time in PL? He might come on but not sure if he'll start can you imagine a back line of ivanovich - cahill - terry - azpilicueta? think tadic/mane would run rings around them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 Cant see Terry starting after the torrid time Mane gave him last season. Agree, though the Daily Mail, for what it's worth, is saying Terry will play. I think they will stick with Zouma. If they don't, then get pace in and around Terry and Cahill as they won't cope. I'm guessing they'll drop Ivanovic. It's an interesting one tactically given what happened in the corresponding fixture last season. Difficult decisions for both managers and it may be that tactical changes will need to be made early during the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
under the west stand Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 (edited) From: "The Fiver" - The Guardian "OFF BRAND Of all the surprises in the bewildering opening skirmishes of this topsy-turvy first-bit-of-the-season – and there have certainly been a few – this one tops the lot. Apparently Chelsea’s first-team squad is unhappy with their manager, who they believe is, to quote our news story, “scapegoating certain players” as a result of the Blues’ poor start to the season. It was, The Fiver supposes, only a matter of time. After five and a half years over two spells as manager, in which he has expertly fallen out with “criminal” rival players, “voyeur” rival managers, “boring” rival fans, “frustrating” Chelsea fans, “ridiculous” referees, match assessors who “don’t see the games” because “they stay eating and drinking”, “naive” doctors, “stupid” journalists, “parasite” TV pundits and “disgraceful” television stations, warned ball boys that “somebody might punch them”, told Rafa Benítez’s wife that she should “take care of her husband’s diet” and even had the occasional dig at the FA, Chelsea’s players have finally worked out that Mourinho likes to blame other people for stuff. In terms of discoveries it’s not exactly the Higgs boson. These are people who can spot a pass in a heartbeat through a thicket of bodies, or predict and snuff out a possible source of danger before it’s even worked it out itself, yet it’s taken them 307 games to twig that their gaffer’s fond of a scapegoat. As even his own team now knows, when it comes to frankly revealing the true and genuine state of affairs Mourinho is programmed with honesty-evasion software so astonishingly efficient he seems scarcely human, as if rather than emerging blinking and screaming from his mother’s womb he rolled suavely off the production line at Volkswagen. There was, it’s true, one time, earlier this year, when he admitted to an interviewer that he is not, in fact, perfect. “I have a problem,” he trilled in April. “My problem is I’m getting better at everything.” Yeah, well maybe it’s time you took a look at the league table … and his squad. The players currently cold-shouldered include Eden Hazard and Nemanja Matic (a bit), John Terry (quite a lot) and the seemingly toxic trifecta of Oscar, Loïc Rémy and Radamel Falcao (loads). And that’s just the list of those considered insufficiently reliable to start Tuesday’s Big Cup tie at Porto, their numbers presumably since swollen with those who were named in the team only to play like planks once they got there. Before the game in Portugal Mourinho warned about players burdened with “that unstable attitude in terms of motivation, desire and commitment”. And while that doesn’t exactly sound great, the problem with denying footballers actual football is that they might spend some of their resulting free time thinking about other stuff, which is Mourinho’s latest problem. Well, that and constantly getting better at everything, obviously." If Saints beat Chelsea - will it be The Chosen One's final game as Chelsea manager? Edited 2 October, 2015 by under the west stand quotation marks need to attribute article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 Won't happen but this is the game to drop Pelle. He's just not very good away from home for a start, but at Chelsea they will far prefer dealing with him. Rodriguez, Tadic and Mane up front will have far more movement and trouble a fairly slow defence. Bring Pelle on if we need to go more direct. Then bring on JWP for set pieces too. Stek Cedric Fonte VVD Bertrand Wanyama Romeu Mane Davis Tadic Rodriguez Agree with this . Would leave Prowse on the bench though and let VVD take the set pieces Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 2 October, 2015 Share Posted 2 October, 2015 I think he'll be gone by xmas and agree that a defeat to us tomorrow could well be the final straw. Interesting that he signed a new 4 year contract at the start of the season - maybe he saw this coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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