Lighthouse Posted 23 September, 2015 Posted 23 September, 2015 European football returns to St Mary's; sort of. After tonights performances I'd be tempted to start with Rodriguez and both full backs (who finished the game) ahead of Yoshi, Targett and Davis.
Cherrypicker Posted 23 September, 2015 Posted 23 September, 2015 Davis played well tonight according to Dave Merrington on BBC Solent. 'Responded well to being dropped at the weekend!'
Batman Posted 23 September, 2015 Posted 23 September, 2015 Going for a win here for saints Stek Cedric Fonte VvD Bertrand Vic Rom Davis Mane Long Rodriguez Davis, target, maya, Jwp, tadic, clasie, pelle
Saint Charlie Posted 23 September, 2015 Posted 23 September, 2015 (edited) Key for me is whether he plays Cedric. Surely he has to, but he played the full 90 tonight so you never know. Personally would keep Long from the bench. Swansea aren't MK Dons and Pelle had his best game for us versus United and is a more reliable goalscorer. Koeman said after the game that Bertrand probably isnt fit to play a whole game, but would start with him anyway. Edited 23 September, 2015 by Saint Charlie
shurlock Posted 23 September, 2015 Posted 23 September, 2015 Expect it to be the same team as Sunday, with Bertrand and Cedric coming in for Targett and Yoshida.
Saint Charlie Posted 23 September, 2015 Posted 23 September, 2015 Expect to be the same team as Sunday, with Bertrand and Cedric coming in for Targett and Yoshida. Would go for that with also Davis in for JWP. Simply because he is just a better player IMO.
Roger Posted 23 September, 2015 Posted 23 September, 2015 AGoing for a win here for saints Stek Cedric Fonte VvD Bertrand Vic Rom Davis Mane Long Rodriguez Davis, target, maya, Jwp, tadic, clasie, pelle Long for pelle is madness.
John Boy Saint Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Expect it to be the same team as Sunday, with Bertrand and Cedric coming in for Targett and Yoshida. Centric was a bit lightweight tonight so don't hold your breath.
Baird of the land Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 I'd be Surprised if Cedric played against Swansea, considering he was very ropey against a weak MK Dons. Expect it'll probably be Yoshida.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 If we keep possession and maintain a high press we will win. Lay back and we will lose. Tough game. I liked the way the attackers linked last night...for some reason we don't get that with Pelle quite so muçh. I would keep Pelle on the bench and bring him on at 75m to either shore up the lead or start the long ball chase.
Saint Charlie Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 They havent been keen before to play Cedric midweek and at the weekend. In the majority of his PL starts he has been subbed before the end. Seeing as he played 90mins last night I don't expect him to start this weekend.
Avenue Saint Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Stekelenburg Soares Fonte VvD Bertrand Wanyama Romeu Tadic Mane Pelle Rodriguez Davis, Yoshida/Caulker, Clasie, Jwp/Davis, Ramirez, Juanmi, Long
WealdSaint Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 The right back situation is a worry. Last season we definitely lacked creativity against Swansea. Gaston on the bench?
Batman Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 The right back situation is a worry. Last season we definitely lacked creativity against Swansea. Gaston on the bench? I thought we were by a mile the better side at home just got done by a very good goal. Usual crap efforts at goal cost us that game likewise, they were the better side at theirs against us but the sending off changed it and we nicked it
doddisalegend Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Didn't realise until this morning Swansea haven't won in three games. Form for both teams a little ropey. Have to say I really liked the more mobile attack we played with last night. Hard to drop pelle (and Ron won't) but our forward play was much more dynamic last night. With Pelle playing we seem far more predicable.
eelpie Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 A Long for pelle is madness. it would be interesting to see Pelle coming on in the second half, after Long has worn the defence out (unless Long continues his excellent Cup form).
Donatello Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Why has Bertrand become a starter all of a sudden? :S He clearly isn't fit enough yet.
Donatello Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Cedric is a no brainier. Sadly that hasn't stopped him being dropped. Long worries me. He's ok as sub but usually awful starting, so many good attacking options yet can see Koeman starting him and ignoring others. Youd imagine Pelle and Tadic back in, Rodriguez would have to replace pelle really. Juanmi looks decent but he'll need to perform from the bench for a while, just hope he comes on before long. Were you at the game last night? Merrington said he looked *okaaaay*, but nothing more. Genuine Q, I'd be interested to hear the perspective of those who caught a glimpse.
Pancake Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Why has Bertrand become a starter all of a sudden? :S He clearly isn't fit enough yet. This, we will obviously continue to stagger his return with MT starting and RB coming on as and when we can.
Batman Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Why has Bertrand become a starter all of a sudden? :S He clearly isn't fit enough yet. I think he will start sat and get an hour or so
Donatello Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 I think he will start sat and get an hour or so I hope you're right, but I strongly suspect otherwise.
Jai27 Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 I think it's safe to assume all those not involved last night will start (although I'd prefer is Soares did regardless) so I'm going for a line up of... Stekelenburg Yoshida Fonte VvD Targett Wanyama Romeu JWP Mane Pelle Tadic
Ken Tone Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Stekelenburg Soares Fonte VvD Bertrand Wanyama Romeu Tadic Mane Pelle Rodriguez Davis, Yoshida/Caulker, Clasie, Jwp/Davis, Ramirez, Juanmi, Long With Seager already showing he's back to fitness and form, I'd give him a slot on the bench , eg rather than Juanmi.
The9 Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 With Seager already showing he's back to fitness and form, I'd give him a slot on the bench , eg rather than Juanmi. His style just doesn't fit the first team. McQueen has been a lot better at the Pelle-style leadership role, for Seager to get a game in the first team we'd have to completely revamp how we play, and as they're not doing that to accommodate Rodriguez or Long I can't see us doing it for Seager. His skills are movement around the box and finishing, he's by no means the kind of target man or creator Pelle is.
Donatello Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 (edited) I watched the game. Juanmi was OK, he clearly has talent but not sure he's getting enough Prem time to show it. That said, I still think Ramirez is a better player in a deeper role. So what do I know "Watched" as in 'at the game/in the stadium?' Sorry, just trying to clarify because as previously mentioned, a perspective other than Merrington's would be ideal Reference Ramirez, what you know sounds about right (to me). Deeper being a CM birth, which is ultimately his downfall, because he'll never get it in this team/league. (As always, all imo) Edit: Assuming you were at the match, thanks for the input/answer. Edited 24 September, 2015 by Donatello
Donatello Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 (edited) His style just doesn't fit the first team. McQueen has been a lot better at the Pelle-style leadership role, for Seager to get a game in the first team we'd have to completely revamp how we play, and as they're not doing that to accommodate Rodriguez or Long I can't see us doing it for Seager. His skills are movement around the box and finishing, he's by no means the kind of target man or creator Pelle is. On the Seager subject, this is how I currently see it (and have viewed it ever since last season when his goal tally was causing 'headlines', in all honesty). I just can't see his skill set translating. Of all the tipped graduates, I've long thought he is the least likely to progress. The sharp end of a stick which lacks a handle. Not writing him off, of course. At any rate, he'll have a career to be proud of somewhere. P.S I'm talking in terms of him being a potential starter. Edited 24 September, 2015 by Donatello
maysie Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Sooooo... Swansea fans down for the game and then England v Wales in the rugby in the evening. Hoping a few Welsh fans hang around, should be a cracking atmosphere in some of the pubs if they do.... But doubt they're bringing many?
Chris27687 Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 I think it's safe to assume all those not involved last night will start (although I'd prefer is Soares did regardless) so I'm going for a line up of... Stekelenburg Yoshida Fonte VvD Targett Wanyama Romeu JWP Mane Pelle Tadic probably swap Soares for Yoshida after the last game.
100%Red&White Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Sooooo... Swansea fans down for the game and then England v Wales in the rugby in the evening. Hoping a few Welsh fans hang around, should be a cracking atmosphere in some of the pubs if they do.... But doubt they're bringing many? Sounds like they've got around a couple of thousand making the trip, they returned tickets for Block 35 which is now on sale to Saints fans. Not a rugby fan myself but guess it will add a bit of spice to the occasion, they'll no doubt be in good patriotic voice. They haven't scored in 3 but I think they've taken on James Beattie as a striker coach, depending on which one turns up, that may not be a great concern.
the saint in winchester Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Stek Cedric Fonte VvD Targett Vic Romeu Davis Mane Pelle Rodriguez Davis, Yoshida/Caulker, Bertrand, Jwp, Ramirez, Juanmi, Long
Pancake Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Interesting that we haven't won with Vic on the pitch this season. Just sayin' (In domestic competitions I mean)
trousers Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Stek Cedric Fonte VvD Targett Vic Romeu Davis Mane Pelle Rodriguez Davis, Yoshida/Caulker, Bertrand, Jwp, Ramirez, Juanmi, Long No Tadic?
Window Cleaner Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Interesting that we haven't won with Vic on the pitch this season. Just sayin' (In domestic competitions I mean) Well as we've only won 2 games out of 7 anyway I'd doubt that yer statisticians would accept that as a representative sample.
The Cat Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 No Tadic? He's so embarrassed by the mars bar chant last night he's not leaving the house for 72 hours, this missing training and ruling himself out of selection for Saturday.
Red Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Gary Monk in, if / when RK leaves? Don't want Ron to leave but feel he will at the end of his contract. Would GM want to come to us, or has he built up a greater affinity with the Swans? Would love to have a decent ex player as our main man - red and white through and through rather than a glam name! Who else is possible in that capacity - Pahars? Don't personally want Kevin K. Franny would be brill but not good enough! What is Chris N up to these days - always liked him, but I fear the modern game is not his forte!
Red Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 He's so embarrassed by the mars bar chant last night he's not leaving the house for 72 hours, this missing training and ruling himself out of selection for Saturday. Sorry guys, completely missed this - what was the context? One of the MK players have a funny hair do or something? Ignored it first but seems to be doing the rounds??
CB Fry Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Gary Monk in, if / when RK leaves? Don't want Ron to leave but feel he will at the end of his contract. Would GM want to come to us, or has he built up a greater affinity with the Swans? Would love to have a decent ex player as our main man - red and white through and through rather than a glam name! Who else is possible in that capacity - Pahars? Don't personally want Kevin K. Franny would be brill but not good enough! What is Chris N up to these days - always liked him, but I fear the modern game is not his forte! Garry Monk is not red and white through and through.
bpsaint Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Let's hope our defence remember not to back off whenever Shelvey has the all this time round. I really can't call this one, our form is so erratic no result would surprise me.
Bad Wolf Posted 24 September, 2015 Posted 24 September, 2015 Anyone just see the article Saints just put on Facebook? Just noticed, Gary Monk has really put on weight since he became a manager!
DT Posted 25 September, 2015 Posted 25 September, 2015 Tough game this. Need Koeman to make some good decisions defensively and to neutralise Shelvey. Cork will obviously have a storming game. 1-1
sadoldgit Posted 25 September, 2015 Posted 25 September, 2015 Another defeat. Remind us again, how did your prediction against MK Dons go?
Sour Mash Posted 25 September, 2015 Posted 25 September, 2015 Be interesting to see who does/doesn't make the bench when we've got a full squad. Is Clasie available for tomorrow?
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 25 September, 2015 Posted 25 September, 2015 Be interesting to see who does/doesn't make the bench when we've got a full squad. Is Clasie available for tomorrow? Koeman said yesterday that he won't be in the squad tomorrow but should be available for the Chelsea match.
Sour Mash Posted 25 September, 2015 Posted 25 September, 2015 Koeman said yesterday that he won't be in the squad tomorrow but should be available for the Chelsea match. Cheers.
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