Roo1976 Posted 20 September, 2015 Share Posted 20 September, 2015 Dont see what all the fuss was about getting him signed as quick as possible.Scotish football is very weak as we all know and against stronger opposition he was found wanting ,luckily didnt see red for the foul on Martial,caught out of possition for that one but from what ive seen nah but time might tell, he may well have a cracking season only to be sold at a later stage prob next season ,along with Wanyama and Mane so what do i know...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 20 September, 2015 Share Posted 20 September, 2015 Looked okay to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 20 September, 2015 Share Posted 20 September, 2015 Okayyyyyyy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 20 September, 2015 Share Posted 20 September, 2015 Yoshida made errors today that cost us the match, not van Dijk, but no thread to slate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 20 September, 2015 Share Posted 20 September, 2015 Yoshida made errors today that cost us the match, not van Dijk, but no thread to slate him. because he is not a new, most expensive defender in our history, type of signing I thought VvD was alright today.......but obvious why he will have far more focus on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 20 September, 2015 Share Posted 20 September, 2015 He hasn't scored yet and I haven't seen one of those mazy runs ending in a thirty yard screamer like what i saw on youtube. i reckon his head is at spurs coz uncle les won't pay im enough firkin dough. can't pass and doesn't try. get rid along with ron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 20 September, 2015 Share Posted 20 September, 2015 He hasn't scored yet and I haven't seen one of those mazy runs ending in a thirty yard screamer like what i saw on youtube. i reckon his head is at spurs coz uncle les won't pay im enough firkin dough. can't pass and doesn't try. get rid along with ron. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 20 September, 2015 Share Posted 20 September, 2015 Give him a chance to settle in ffs. What is with some people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 20 September, 2015 Share Posted 20 September, 2015 Looks fine to me. Strolled through the game last week and was the best player on the pitch. Obviously had more to do today but did OK. Remember he's playing alongside a whole new defence and today was against one of the best teams in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 20 September, 2015 Share Posted 20 September, 2015 So you're saying you think he's **** but he might turn out good enough to move onto better things? Cool. Cheers for covering all bases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 20 September, 2015 Share Posted 20 September, 2015 Thought he was poor today to be honest. Still early days though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 Dont see what all the fuss was about getting him signed as quick as possible.Scotish football is very weak as we all know and against stronger opposition he was found wanting ,luckily didnt see red for the foul on Martial,caught out of possition for that one but from what ive seen nah but time might tell, he may well have a cracking season only to be sold at a later stage prob next season ,along with Wanyama and Mane so what do i know...! I recommend anyone coming to this thread start by reading the highlighted portion only, and then leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_G Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 Saints played well for the first half an hour against Manure but overall our defence was really poor - especially Yoshida, who really needs to be replaced as he makes far too many costly errors and isn't up to Premier league standard. I think once Virgil has a run of games under his belt, he will become stronger and used to the higher tempo and then his true ability will be seen and we will soon have Bertrand back, who will definitely help to organise the back line. We'll get better as the season progresses. Up the Saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 He will benefit from having full-backs on the pitch that actually want the ball. His is cramp was a huge indicator that he isn't yet fit enough for the Premier League, but that will come. Tiredness leads to mistakes. He'll be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 He hasn't scored yet and I haven't seen one of those mazy runs ending in a thirty yard screamer like what i saw on youtube. i reckon his head is at spurs coz uncle les won't pay im enough firkin dough. can't pass and doesn't try. get rid along with ron. 7.2/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 Nothing like giving him time to adapt from Scottish Prem to English Prem then !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 Nice +1thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 Yoshida made errors today that cost us the match, not van Dijk, but no thread to slate him. Whats wrong with Soares ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 Yoshida made errors today that cost us the match, not van Dijk, but no thread to slate him. No need, I've been saying it for months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 Whats wrong with Soares ? I watched some of the coverage last night when I got back, Koeman said he picked Yoshida for his defensive abilities as Cedric offers more going forward. I have left the facepalm off out of respect to Koeman. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 Was Soares bought when we were still expecting Clyne to stay or am I imagining that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 VVD made two poor decisions in the first half not letting the ball run out for a GK, and then heading out weekly soon after; got turned far too easily for the first goal; and before he got booked tried to be took clever. Then gets cramp. Not seen that in a Saints player for ages, embarrassing. Al in all yesterday he will want to forget, got pulled out of position far too easily too many times. Things can only get better! I thought Caulker has looked best CB alongside JF so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 Was Soares bought when we were still expecting Clyne to stay or am I imagining that? The club claimed Clyne decided to leave when we brought Soares in but I don't believe it to be anything other than arse covering after they publicly stated they were hopeful on Clyne signing a new deal and then he did what any sane person would do and join the bigger club for more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 Yoshida made errors today that cost us the match, not van Dijk, but no thread to slate him. ....wasn't that a replay of last season's game ....when Fonte was the culprit ?......No thread about how bad Fonte was then, either........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 I watched some of the coverage last night when I got back, Koeman said he picked Yoshida for his defensive abilities as Cedric offers more going forward. I have left the facepalm off out of respect to Koeman. :/ Surely the facepalm would be Saints signing a defender who can't defend ? Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 ....wasn't that a replay of last season's game ....when Fonte was the culprit ?......No thread about how bad Fonte was then, either........ fonte got plenty of crticism last season for that game, as did forster for being glued to his line as did adkins the first season up for throwing the game awya by taking off our best players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 Thought he was poor today to be honest. Still early days though. TBF you think everyone is poor.. Looked pretty good from where i was sitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScepticalStan Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 got turned far too easily for the first goal Not his fault at all. Martial was about 8 yards out. If VVD (or anyone else in his position) doesn't throw himself in to try and block the shot then Martial just belts it in with his left foot rather than having to turn onto his right. It was well-taken to be fair. One of those situations where the striker can actually force the defender to commit. It looks bad on the defender but trust me, VVD or anyone else in his position couldn't possibly have done otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 21 September, 2015 Share Posted 21 September, 2015 I've seen enough to know he's decent you have to give a new player around ten games before you can really judge them imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 (edited) I thought he was ok, a bit slow but that will come once he gets aquainted with the speed of this league. In any case, we dont want him to be too good do we! Edited 22 September, 2015 by Saint Billy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Will be fine but shouldn't be compared to finished product Toby. Toby is just superb with Spurs who have kept 3 clean sheets in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Surely the facepalm would be Saints signing a defender who can't defend ? Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Do you have another club you truly support? Or do you just moan moan and moan about saints? Didn't realise that's what "supporting" a club meant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Do you have another club you truly support? Or do you just moan moan and moan about saints? Didn't realise that's what "supporting" a club meant! We support our chosen club in many different ways . Some are critical of some things , others are not . When things are going poorly , many supporters vent their frustration at other supporters . While this is pointless and idiotic it obviously seems to help . I reserve the right to question our talent scouts who choose players who are unable to play the position they specialize in . I'm glad I could help you vent your frustrations ? Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Saints played well for the first half an hour against Manure but overall our defence was really poor - especially Yoshida, who really needs to be replaced as he makes far too many costly errors and isn't up to Premier league standard. I think once Virgil has a run of games under his belt, he will become stronger and used to the higher tempo and then his true ability will be seen and we will soon have Bertrand back, who will definitely help to organise the back line. We'll get better as the season progresses. Up the Saints! Yes I agree. The whole defence looks poor, especially in the second half when we played far too deep. As for Yoshida - dear oh dear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Yes I agree. The whole defence looks poor, especially in the second half when we played far too deep. As for Yoshida - dear oh dear! The problem with Yoshia is that he's generally reliable but every now and then he has the habit of making a monumental fc*uk up which lives in the memory.....Sunday's back pass being about the worst I've ever seen from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 The problem with Yoshia is that he's generally reliable but every now and then he has the habit of making a monumental **** up which lives in the memory.....Sunday's back pass being about the worst I've ever seen from him. he makes a howler most games. this time, we paid for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 he makes a howler most games. this time, we paid for it. "Most Games" is not accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 he makes a howler most games. this time, we paid for it. He doesn't. He also generally only has issues when he is played out of position, especially at RB (rather than LB). In any case, if you think Yoshida's howler on Sunday cost us the game then you are very much mistaken, it just compounded what was an appalling performance by the whole team including Ronald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Yoshida has had an excellent season in his proper place. He was playing out of position on sunday and anyway the whole team is obsessed with passing backwards it was only a matter of time before it cost us. By the way Fonte made exactly the same mistake from exactly the same spot on the field in exactly the same match last year, and he ended up 'Player of the Season' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 He doesn't. He also generally only has issues when he is played out of position, especially at RB (rather than LB). In any case, if you think Yoshida's howler on Sunday cost us the game then you are very much mistaken, it just compounded what was an appalling performance by the whole team including Ronald. Honestly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 "Most Games" is not accurate Mate, don't bother. Just save yourself the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Yoshida has had an excellent season in his proper place. He was playing out of position on sunday and anyway the whole team is obsessed with passing backwards it was only a matter of time before it cost us. By the way Fonte made exactly the same mistake from exactly the same spot on the field in exactly the same match last year, and he ended up 'Player of the Season' Many on here thought Yoshida was Most Improved Player last year too. I'm not saying I agree (I haven't given it any thought), but he obviously did something right to give some that impression. One erroneous pass and he's been cast out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 He doesn't. He also generally only has issues when he is played out of position, especially at RB (rather than LB). In any case, if you think Yoshida's howler on Sunday cost us the game then you are very much mistaken, it just compounded what was an appalling performance by the whole team including Ronald. Yoshida's mistake certainly contributed to us losing the game, doesn't make him a bad player. And the overall performance certainly wasn't "appalling". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Yoshida has had an excellent season in his proper place. He was playing out of position on sunday and anyway the whole team is obsessed with passing backwards it was only a matter of time before it cost us. By the way Fonte made exactly the same mistake from exactly the same spot on the field in exactly the same match last year, and he ended up 'Player of the Season' Yes, for some reason after half an hour it became a case of pass it back whenever possible. It was always going to lead to trouble but Maya's mistake was an appalling lack of concentration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 He doesn't. He also generally only has issues when he is played out of position, especially at RB (rather than LB). In any case, if you think Yoshida's howler on Sunday cost us the game then you are very much mistaken, it just compounded what was an appalling performance by the whole team including Ronald. Disagree with all of this. I see virtually all of our matches and in my opinion Yoshida is error prone, even when at CB. His howler on Sunday changed everything. Confidence visibly drained and the defence sat deeper and deeper ceding space for the likes of Rooney, Mata and Schweinstieger (sic. can't be arsed to look it up). It was not an appalling performance by the whole team. For the majority of the first half they all played very well and were well on top. Pelle in particular had a fine game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Disagree with all of this. I see virtually all of our matches and in my opinion Yoshida is error prone, even when at CB. His howler on Sunday changed everything. Confidence visibly drained and the defence sat deeper and deeper ceding space for the likes of Rooney, Mata and Schweinstieger (sic. can't be arsed to look it up). It was not an appalling performance by the whole team. For the majority of the first half they all played very well and were well on top. Pelle in particular had a fine game. Just for the record: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-origin-and-meaning-of-the-surname-Schweinsteiger-Is-it-considered-a-funny-name-by-Germans (I always thought it meant 'pig climber' myself ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Yoshida has had an excellent season in his proper place. He was playing out of position on sunday and anyway the whole team is obsessed with passing backwards it was only a matter of time before it cost us. By the way Fonte made exactly the same mistake from exactly the same spot on the field in exactly the same match last year, and he ended up 'Player of the Season' It is not the first time Yoshida has played at full back and to be fair he has made howlers at CH too. I will eat my cat if he gets player of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Nothing like giving him time to adapt from Scottish Prem to English Prem then !! Indeed. Two matches played and his game has been forensically scrutinised and he has been judged as rubbish. Sunday's game was bizarre. Three shots on target and three goals. If we were that clinical we would be top of the league. The defence sat back too deeply but VVD was the only one trying to get them forward as far as I could see. Early days but he looks like he will be a quality signing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Indeed. Two matches played and his game has been forensically scrutinised and he has been judged as rubbish. Sunday's game was bizarre. Three shots on target and three goals. If we were that clinical we would be top of the league. The defence sat back too deeply but VVD was the only one trying to get them forward as far as I could see. Early days but he looks like he will be a quality signing for us. This is what I noticed most about him, good to see he's so confident already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Disagree with all of this. I see virtually all of our matches and in my opinion Yoshida is error prone, even when at CB. His howler on Sunday changed everything. Confidence visibly drained and the defence sat deeper and deeper ceding space for the likes of Rooney, Mata and Schweinstieger (sic. can't be arsed to look it up). It was not an appalling performance by the whole team. For the majority of the first half they all played very well and were well on top. Pelle in particular had a fine game. Yoshi has a great attitude and is fine as a no4 CH on the bench but as you say, he is error prone and unfortunately most of his errors lead to goals against. I also agree that it was not an appalling performance, the stats show that we had enough of the game to have won it. For a long period we did sit too deeply but for the first 30 mins we were superb and we also finished very well. On another day we would have got a draw at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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