Pancake Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 As indicated in his presser, he wants the Dutch national job "in the future... after the last year of my (Saints) contract". So, who would you like to replace him?
VectisSaint Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Klopp. But Rons here for another 3 years so not really worth discussing. Dutch have alresdy said Blind will not be replaced soon.
Evil Monkey Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Klopp. But Rons here for another 3 years so not really worth discussing. Dutch have alresdy said Blind will not be replaced soon. Really? Didn't realise that. Eddie Howe will be managing in league 1 by then.
andoru Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Brendan Rodgers. No other manager comes close to loving Southampton as much. He wants to manage us so bad he's been moving the club piecemeal. I say we reward his passion with a job offer.
Chalkboy Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 By some weird twist of fate, imagine if it was Brendan Rodgers ^^^^^ AHHHH just beaten to it ^^^^^^
ErwinK1961 Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Klopp. But Rons here for another 3 years so not really worth discussing. Dutch have alresdy said Blind will not be replaced soon. Not quite... "Blind signed a contract keeping him with us until the World Cup in 2018. Within that contract there is is an agreement for him to meet the board of directors after the European qualification period. "That will still happen in the next couple of months to see if they're still happy with him." Looks like a get out of jail card in a few months if they don't qualify. If Eddie Howe carrys on as he is, wouldn't say no to him replacing Ron at the end of his contract, however 1.5 years is a long time in football so who knows where he will be in the footballing hierarchy by then. Garry Monk maybe?
Chris27687 Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 The year will be 2023 and after Ronald has won countless European and home titles with saints a little known Spaniard by the name of Xavi comes and picks up the reigns - citing a long held admiration for MLT and the Southampton way. The following year the Dutch lose the Euros to Germany on penalties and Ronald is subsequently lynched. you saw it hear first.
Chalkboy Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Would have liked Thomas Tuchel, but can't see that happening if he has success at Dortmund. Weren't we interested in Murat Yakin when Poch left or was that just rumour? Think he's out of a job at the moment though.
mrfahaji Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Eddie Howe. Also think Garry Monk would do well but can't see him leaving Swansea to come here.
Pastor Patrón Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Klopp at the end of the season, no question about it. Don't want Howe, we need someone with a decent profile again.
southamptonfc Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 I thought it had been proven that Eddie Howe can only successfully manage the Cherries. Pochettino or Ian Holloway
Saxon Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Not quite... "Blind signed a contract keeping him with us until the World Cup in 2018. Within that contract there is is an agreement for him to meet the board of directors after the European qualification period. "That will still happen in the next couple of months to see if they're still happy with him." Looks like a get out of jail card in a few months if they don't qualify. If Eddie Howe carrys on as he is, wouldn't say no to him replacing Ron at the end of his contract, however 1.5 years is a long time in football so who knows where he will be in the footballing hierarchy by then. Garry Monk maybe? I think Monk would be great however I can't see him leaving Swansea for some time yet and if he does, it will be to someone bigger than us, I doubt he'd take a sideways move to us unless he left Swansea after a bad spell. If he leaves with them on the sort of form they have been so far under him he won't be going to us.
Colinjb Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Mark Warburton He left Brentford because he wanted full control over their transfer dealings, he didn't want the moneyball method dictating his actions. He wouldn't fit in here.
Matthew Le God Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Mark Warburton He left Brentford because he wanted full control over their transfer dealings, he didn't want the moneyball method dictating his actions. He wouldn't fit in here. He also has never managed a top flight team in any country, never worked with large numbers of internationals and he doesn't have the pulling power in the transfer market remotely close to Koeman. He would be a high risk appointment given his lack of track record at a high level.
Give it to Ron Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 He also has never managed a top flight team in any country, never worked with large numbers of internationals and he doesn't have the pulling power in the transfer market remotely close to Koeman. He would be a high risk appointment given his lack of track record at a high level. Likes promoting youth, did great job at Brentford, will be back in Scots Prem with Rangers next year and back in Europe after that . One of the most upcoming young managers in the game. This thread is about when Ron leaves not now!
SaintRichmond Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Klopp. But Rons here for another 3 years so not really worth discussing. Dutch have alresdy said Blind will not be replaced soon. Is he ? Till 2018 ? When was that nailed down then ??
Matthew Le God Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 (edited) Likes promoting youth, did great job at Brentford, will be back in Scots Prem with Rangers next year and back in Europe after that . One of the most upcoming young managers in the game. This thread is about when Ron leaves not now! Going from Brentford in the Championship and Rangers in the Scottish 2nd tier is a huge jump to a top half Premier League side packed full of international players. He has no track record working at such a level and would be a big risk, plus a drop in pulling power. One of the most upcoming young managers in the game. This thread is about when Ron leaves not now! Mark Warburton is 53 years old, he is relatively new to being a manager but he is not young. He is older than Koeman. Edited 10 September, 2015 by Matthew Le God
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Mark Warburton is 53 years old, he is not a young manager... he is older than Koeman. He may well have been referencing that he has only been a Manager for 3 years, which means he is a young Manager from an experience perspective, not a young person.
Give it to Ron Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Going from Brentford in the Championship and Rangers in the Scottish 2nd tier is a huge jump to a top half Premier League side packed full of international players. Mark Warburton is 53 years old! He is not a young manager, for a start he is older than Koeman. Is this thread about replacing him when he goes or now? Will Rangers be in the second tier then? 53 is young in management compared to many managers in the game. WTF has him being older than Koeman got anything to do with this? Had Pochetino managed a top half Prem League team half full of internationals? I will try and explain it simply for you .....when Koeman leaves I believe Warburton will have improved his status so high as a manger at Rangers that we could potentially look at him as a replacement...not that we will that ok?
Matthew Le God Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 He may well have been referencing that he has only been a Manager for 3 years' date=' which means he is a young Manager from an experience perspective, not a young person.[/quote'] If he was 63 years old and only been a manager for 3 years, would he still call him "one of the most upcoming young managers in the game"?
Matthew Le God Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Is this thread about replacing him when he goes or now? Will Rangers be in the second tier then? 53 is young in management compared to many managers in the game. WTF has him being older than Koeman got anything to do with this? Had Pochetino managed a top half Prem League team half full of internationals? I will try and explain it simply for you .....when Koeman leaves I believe Warburton will have improved his status so high as a manger at Rangers that we could potentially look at him as a replacement...not that we will that ok? It would still be a big risk to appoint him, the gap between Rangers and Saints is huge and is unlikely to close much even when they are promoted. Warburton has little experience managing and training top international players and has little reputation in European football circles to attract players. Since Saints have been back in the Premier League... Adkins > Pochettino > Koeman is a progression in high level experience and reputation. If we appointed someone like Warburton it is a regression.
VectisSaint Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Is he ? Till 2018 ? When was that nailed down then ?? Sorry, fatfingers. Meant 2.
The9 Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Erwin Koeman But he has a terrible record as caretaker manager for Saints.
The9 Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 The year will be 2023 and after Ronald has won countless European and home titles with saints a little known Spaniard by the name of Xavi comes and picks up the reigns - citing a long held admiration for MLT and the Southampton way. The following year the Dutch lose the Euros to Germany on penalties and Ronald is subsequently lynched. you saw it hear first. As long as it's Xavi and not Javi.
verlaine1979 Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Klopp at the end of the season, no question about it. Don't want Howe, we need someone with a decent profile again. So when you say decent, you really mean one of the most highly sought after managers in world football?
Give it to Ron Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 It would still be a big risk to appoint him, the gap between Rangers and Saints is huge and is unlikely to close much even when they are promoted. Warburton has little experience managing and training top international players and has little reputation in European football circles to attract players. Since Saints have been back in the Premier League... Adkins > Pochettino > Koeman is a progression in high level experience and reputation. If we appointed someone like Warburton it is a regression. You don't get it do you.....the gap then won't be so huge IMO! Adkins and Pochetino were 'relatively' unknown and both were gambles compared to what we had. I believe that Warburton stall as a manger will grow so much WHEN IN A FEW YEARS NOT NOW SO YOU CAN'T COMPARE US NOW!!!! that we MAY consider him. Its all hypothetical anyway and you don't seem capable of understanding that this is not tomorrow, next week or even next year hopefully.
Matthew Le God Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 You don't get it do you.....the gap then won't be so huge IMO! I believe that Warburton stall as a manger will grow so much WHEN IN A FEW YEARS NOT NOW SO YOU CAN'T COMPARE US NOW!!!! that we MAY consider him. Its all hypothetical anyway and you don't seem capable of understanding that this is not tomorrow, next week or even next year hopefully Rangers aren't going to become a major European power in the next 3, 4 or 5 years. Both they and Celtic are massively limited by the league. Warburton isn't going to be working at Rangers in the coming years with players remotely close to the quality level of those at Saints. Adkins and Pochetino were 'relatively' unknown and both were gambles compared to what we had.. Saints have progressed with each appointment to a higher calibre of track record. Adkins > Pochettino > Koeman is a progression in CV's at the time of appointment To go Koeman > Warburton is a regression. Warburton won't be able to achieve much in the next few years at Rangers, Celtic have a significant lead and both clubs are very limited.
The9 Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 You don't get it do you.....the gap then won't be so huge IMO! Adkins and Pochetino were 'relatively' unknown and both were gambles compared to what we had. I believe that Warburton stall as a manger will grow so much WHEN IN A FEW YEARS NOT NOW SO YOU CAN'T COMPARE US NOW!!!! that we MAY consider him. Its all hypothetical anyway and you don't seem capable of understanding that this is not tomorrow, next week or even next year hopefully. So he won't be Koeman's replacement then? Or do you think that he's going to win the Scottish second tier (and, say the Scottish Cup) this season, and then win the Scottish Premiership, League Cup and SFA Cup with Rangers in 2016/17, as well as a superb Europa League run from the Cup qualification? Because that European success is probably the only thing that would put him on our radar for when Koeman leaves? And even then it would still look like a step backwards due to Koeman's playing experience (which I readily admit is not THAT big a deal in terms of managerial ability but does give him a gravitas to players that Warburton wouldn't have). Fair enough if the "in a few years" doesn't mean "after Koeman's contract is up", but that is what we're talking about here.
SaintRichmond Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Sorry, fatfingers. Meant 2. 2 years ? Same Question. Did he sign an extension ? I thought this was his final year
The9 Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Chris Coleman? Successful due to an unprecedented level of player ability (more Prem players in that squad than for years), plus a core of U21s who'd played together for 5 years under Brian Flynn. Not to mention Bale.
The9 Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 2 years ? Same Question. Did he sign an extension ? I thought this was his final year Three year deal signed in 2014. Two years to go: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/16062014-ronald-koeman-appointed-1645420.aspx
Saint-Fred Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Well we know so he about lining up his successor and employing him 12 months prior to RK leaving for a seemless change over? it would also stop the "managers leaving at the end of the season" performance dip, as the new one is on the bench or in the stands. The new manager would then have at least or possibly 3 transfer windows to influence purchases for his team. I know egos are big at the level and someone who will sit in the background may be not the person you want however imagine if it had been this year and we could have employed Klopp in that role? He gets his break but still a hand on the tiller of his next job. I know Klopp isn't coming here but it's just an example! Now no big managerial names are likely to do this but are we likely to Get them anyway? but surely for someone stepping up (Howe) or a big name newish to managing (Xavier....lol) it's a route to a premier league job with a learning curve both to the club and the league which they don't usually get?
FloridaMarlin Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 I would like to see Gary Monk, as a former Saint, he would have the club at heart. On the assumption that Koeman is not going to have an absolute disaster over the next couple of seasons and get sacked, at lwast we have time to put things in place.
ErwinK1961 Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 Rangers aren't going to become a major European power in the next 3, 4 or 5 years. Both they and Celtic are massively limited by the league. Warburton isn't going to be working at Rangers in the coming years with players remotely close to the quality level of those at Saints. Saints have progressed with each appointment to a higher calibre of track record. Adkins > Pochettino > Koeman is a progression in CV's at the time of appointment To go Koeman > Warburton is a regression. Warburton won't be able to achieve much in the next few years at Rangers, Celtic have a significant lead and both clubs are very limited. You'd be a lot more interesting if you just gave your own opinion on things, rather than just challenge everyone else's with facts.
ally_uk Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 couldn't give two s**ts to be honest cross that bridge when we come to it.......
The Cat Posted 10 September, 2015 Posted 10 September, 2015 I don't want Gary Monk, I want Monk from here to take over. Imagine all the incredible ITK snippets we'd get then?
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