Saints-1994 Posted 9 September, 2015 Share Posted 9 September, 2015 Haven't seen this anywhere else. The Football Supporters Federation annual protest is on the weekend of Chelsea away. Seems very appropriate considering the ticket prices. Anyone heard of anything being done on our part? If not, willing to help organise a banner? Given our game being televised, it's an opportunity to target one of the high offenders in fleecing supporters. http://www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/Get-involved-Twentys-Plenty-Weekend-of-Action-Saturday-3rd-and-Sunday-4th-October Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 9 September, 2015 Share Posted 9 September, 2015 Is £20 a realistic figure for Premier League football in 2015? Catchy slogan. Chelsea aren't going to be bothered by banners in the away end, it'd have to come from the FA, still can't see them doing anything. Slightly separate point, but Saints should be using their away fund for games like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 9 September, 2015 Share Posted 9 September, 2015 The Europa League pricing just makes £50 look like the massive rip-off it probably is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints-1994 Posted 9 September, 2015 Author Share Posted 9 September, 2015 Well £20 for away fans is more than reasonable, and is being executed by clubs like Swansea. Year by year this movement is getting louder and bigger- hence more clubs lowering fees or applying initiatives to help away fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 9 September, 2015 Share Posted 9 September, 2015 Is it anything to do with the "movement"? Personally I think clubs will charge what they can get away with, and their data will determine pricing - prices may also be coming down because the tv deal now dwarfs match day income and clubs are well aware if they can get more people in they are more likely to sell merchandise and hook people longer term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 9 September, 2015 Share Posted 9 September, 2015 Well £20 for away fans is more than reasonable, and is being executed by clubs like Swansea. Year by year this movement is getting louder and bigger- hence more clubs lowering fees or applying initiatives to help away fans. But the comparison to Swansea would be for Saints to make changes, not Chelsea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints-1994 Posted 9 September, 2015 Author Share Posted 9 September, 2015 But the comparison to Swansea would be for Saints to make changes, not Chelsea? The purpose is to not target Chelsea, more draw attention from the Premier League. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the away fans fund was formed from similar protests. Why stop there? I was merely making a point that we are at Chelsea, paying £50 a ticket- it would be the perfect venue for us to finally get involved in this campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 9 September, 2015 Share Posted 9 September, 2015 I was merely making a point that we are at Chelsea, paying £50 a ticket- it would be the perfect venue for us to finally get involved in this campaign. It would be the perfect venue, if nobody had paid the £50 in the first place and the away end was completely empty, but people won't make that sacrifice (and I include myself in that). As it is, the message is "we'd like cheaper tickets, but we'll carry on paying your ridiculous prices anyway", unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 9 September, 2015 Share Posted 9 September, 2015 The purpose is to not target Chelsea, more draw attention from the Premier League. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the away fans fund was formed from similar protests. Why stop there? I was merely making a point that we are at Chelsea, paying £50 a ticket- it would be the perfect venue for us to finally get involved in this campaign. I wasn't disagreeing, just querying, there's not a football fan that doesn't agree with the overall principle of the campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 I'd think what grips many of us is that Twenty's-Plenty would barely be noticed by Premier League clubs if implemented. The money given up to make it happen would be a drop in the ocean compared to the incoming TV funds, no club would really be any worse off than the other with all doing the same and it would suggest these money-rich clubs do actually have an inkling of care for the fans. Anyway, back in the real world, carry on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 Did they decide on twenty because that was an agreed number or was it because it half rhymed with plenty is a good slogan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 Did they decide on twenty because that was an agreed number or was it because it half rhymed with plenty is a good slogan? It is a catchy slogan but also a reasonable price if considering travel costs, etc. and then next week forking out around twice that for a home ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 Has anyone done the calculation of how much the total cost of the away tickets was for last season and compared it to the price of a season ticket in the Northam stand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 (edited) Where does the protest stop? For those of us who live up here Villa,West Brom,Leicester,the Mancs are all closer than St.Marys.Away fans £20 but for Saints travelling supporters,going to St.Marys,Tickets,Fuel,refreshments and a six hour round trip.Can we claim the £20? It's a matter of choice.Until fans start protesting with their feet the ticket prices continue. Edited 10 September, 2015 by hasper57saint Syntax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 Where does the protest stop? For those of us who live up here Villa,West Brom,Leicester,the Mancs are all closer than St.Marys.Away fans £20 but for Saints travelling supporters,going to St.Marys,Tickets,Fuel,refreshments and a six hour round trip.Can we claim the £20? It's a matter of choice.Until fans start protesting with their feet the ticket prices continue. that's not completely true, fans have been protesting with more than just their feet, banners in the grounds is not a great look for the image , TV companies want to see full stadiums with loud atmospheres being broadcast throughout the world, it is part of what makes English football so attractive. the work done so far has resulted in iniatives such as away fans fund where each Premier league club is given £200k i think to be used in promoting away support, most of the time this is by reducing prices (Norwich took £10 off per ticket when they came here, Man Utd are also doing the same reducing prices for every away game). Some clubs go further adding to the fund - Stoke offer free coaches to every away match, Swansea are subsidising every away ticket , so to some extent voices are being heard and it has to be for the good of the game. Away attendances have been in decline so i am in favour of anything that can result in more people being able to afford it and higher away attendances at games. The fairest way to implementing this is reduced prices rather than travel, especially for a club like us with a wide catchment area in mileage terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 It would be the perfect venue, if nobody had paid the £50 in the first place and the away end was completely empty, but people won't make that sacrifice (and I include myself in that). As it is, the message is "we'd like cheaper tickets, but we'll carry on paying your ridiculous prices anyway", unfortunately. Spot on. Until attendances start taking a serious dip in the Premier League, then nothing of any serious note will be done to reduce ticket prices. Many fans will just pay the money because they can't bear the thought of not going to games. Which is absolutely fine, I have no problem with that as we all have things we like to do. But what I do find annoying is people who do go, pay the money and then complain about how they are getting ripped off. Just don't stump up the cash in the first place, last time I checked no-one is forced to watch a game of football:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 Where does the protest stop? For those of us who live up here Villa,West Brom,Leicester,the Mancs are all closer than St.Marys.Away fans £20 but for Saints travelling supporters,going to St.Marys,Tickets,Fuel,refreshments and a six hour round trip.Can we claim the £20? It's a matter of choice.Until fans start protesting with their feet the ticket prices continue. The problem is, protesting with our feet doesn't necessarily work for games like this - Chelsea can easily sell additional tickets to their tourist market, so they don't lose out and its an easier life for them managing some football tourists than a few thousand away fans. What will happen is, away support, and with it a decent atmosphere, will slowly be killed off and English football will be a lot poorer for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 Spot on. Until attendances start taking a serious dip in the Premier League, then nothing of any serious note will be done to reduce ticket prices. Many fans will just pay the money because they can't bear the thought of not going to games. Which is absolutely fine, I have no problem with that as we all have things we like to do. But what I do find annoying is people who do go, pay the money and then complain about how they are getting ripped off. Just don't stump up the cash in the first place, last time I checked no-one is forced to watch a game of football:lol: That's why i thought the Scousers protest of buying kids tickets (so as not to lose too much money) then turning up and protesting outside the game at Hull was a great technique. Particularly for a live game as you can then go and watch it on TV close by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 This is what Derby fans thought of Norwich's rip off pricing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 The problem is, protesting with our feet doesn't necessarily work for games like this - Chelsea can easily sell additional tickets to their tourist market, so they don't lose out and its an easier life for them managing some football tourists than a few thousand away fans. What will happen is, away support, and with it a decent atmosphere, will slowly be killed off and English football will be a lot poorer for it. I broadly agree with your point SM, and certainly agree there is a danger away support is killed off because that's the lifeblood of going to a game. One of my local sides, Torquay, are finding it dispiriting to play teams in the NC that only take 50 fans away when they take 500. However, although it was away at Hull midweek, Liverpool are another club with a huge, and possibly even bigger tourist following, and there were big gaps in their away end at the KC last season after Hull charged them a horrendous price. That's very unusual for them and people did remark on it. The TV deal does drive so much of clubs' behaviour (I don't think Saints are the worst offenders by a long way) but a couple of empty away ends for a TV game involving a high profile side might go one further than the Liverpool protest. After all, broadcaster didn't queue up in the 1980s to broadcast Luton games when away fans were banned by David Evans (plus the plastic pitch - scene of many a heavy defeat for Saints, 6-1 and 7-0 if I remember correctly?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 What always surprises me is how expensive tickets are even in the lower division. I paid £24 last Saturday for Chesterfield v Wigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 Lower league ticket sales actually fund a far higher % of the clubs revenue than premier league clubs so that's probably why. Premier league games are always in higher demand, hence the even higher price. The premier league should do something, like putting a cap on away prices to say £30 and maybe even an Adult Lowest ticket price cap of £30 in the home games as well, paying more than £35 to watch a game of football.....Too much considering how little a % of the income they get from it each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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