manina-pub Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Now the window has shut and he remains at SFC it will be interesting to see the crowd reaction to Vic. I think will help him a tad if he makes some kind of statement of intent soon about applying himself to the role of professional footballer at Saints. First game puts in a few tasty challenges or set ups a goal = all forgiven ? or Screws up in first 5 minutes = crowd on his back ? Lets hope he does a Morgan and have a great season.....
nta786 Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Cheer. I won't boo him if he gets his head down and plays... Even if he makes a mistake- all footballers are human- anyone can make mistakes- and it's his attitude i'd be looking at next- and I'm sure Koeman too.
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 I never boo a player nor the team. I try not to groan when something goes wrong. I applaud politely when we score. I might even cheer occasionally. If Vic can accept his situation and knuckle down then I will be overjoyed.
Toadhall Saint Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Cheer. I won't boo him if he gets his head down and plays... Even if he makes a mistake- all footballers are human- anyone can make mistakes- and it's his attitude i'd be looking at next- and I'm sure Koeman too. Cheer - he won't be back in the side until his attitude is spot on - RK will make sure of that.
manina-pub Posted 1 September, 2015 Author Posted 1 September, 2015 Equally I would only cheer, at the very worst stay silent - I only ask as there seems to have been quite a bit of bad-mouthing and some hatred toward him on here and Twitter.
Sour Mash Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 I wouldn't boo him, but you've got to be having a laugh if you're going to cheer him.
jasonb Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 If he pulls on the shirt and gives 100% he'll have my support. Anything less than that will be unacceptable. It's not me he really has to win over tho. Koeman will have to be 100% convinced before he is allowed anywhere near the first team.
Mr X Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 The question is will he start at West Brom? my guess is no
iansums Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 I wouldn't boo him, but you've got to be having a laugh if you're going to cheer him. Even if he scores a worldly from 30 yards to secure a victory against ManU in injury time?
sfc1976 Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Looked pants for a while. Don't really care if he's never sighted again.
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 You're expecting him back after the internationals then?!
pangy Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 I would expect RK to say he has accepted the decision and is knuckling down and committed to the cause
Pancake Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Did all the negatives above say the same about Morgan at the start of last season? Did you not cheer his goals and play? Odd...
Sour Mash Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Did all the negatives above say the same about Morgan at the start of last season? Did you not cheer his goals and play? Odd... How many competitive games did Schneiderlin miss for us?
Ohio Saint Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Cheer everyone until you can't cheer any more, even the less talented players. If they actually deliberately don't play to their full potential, or kick the crap out of a spectator in the disabled section, then boo them remorselessly. Sometimes people make supporting a team way too complicated.
No 2 to Maybush Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Doesn't he have to get back in the First 11 first?
Saint Billy Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 For the sake of the team and to get Victor playing his best, booing will not help at all despite his tantrum!.
Shandy_Top_89 Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 I wouldn't personally get on his case, I just think he's been badly advised. Although I expect elements of our support will. If Norwich wasn't a freak case, we could have found a new partnership in Romeu - Ward-Prowse. So Wanyama may have to up his game (although personal preference would see Wanyama in more defensive games and Ward-Prowse in more open games)
musesaint Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Same as Morgan last year He plays with commitment ...he gets the fans support He doesn't ...he gets treated like Judas Lallana I'm assuming it'll be the former ...otherwise it's a new avatar ! That'll teach him!
sfc1971 Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 RK will be actively looking for a replacement as of now, if one is identified Victor be be pushed out of SFC in Jan.
Dellman Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 He's ours, he's given everything match after match, he's a key defender, of course we welcome him back when the manager thinks the time is right. The captain has said all the players want him to stay and play. when he returns we must give him 100%, the manager will choose the right moment
whoateallthepies Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 If he pulls on the shirt and gives 100% he'll have my support. Anything less than that will be unacceptable. It's not me he really has to win over tho. Koeman will have to be 100% convinced before he is allowed anywhere near the first team. Agree. Footballers aren't employed for their intellect or communication skills. Not his fault he was badly advised by an idiot of an agent. If you want to vent; find out who is agent is and troll him relentlessly on Twitter
the saint in winchester Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Depends if he makes any public statement in the next 10 days. If he does a Berahino rant, then boo him; if he says he was misquoted or blames the agent, then cheer him. Otherwise, no special treatment either way, just cheer all the team.
Sour Mash Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 He's ours, he's given everything match after match, he's a key defender, of course we welcome him back when the manager thinks the time is right. The captain has said all the players want him to stay and play. when he returns we must give him 100%, the manager will choose the right moment But he hasn't 'given everything match after match', that's the whole point.
saint97 Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Doesn't he have to get back in the First 11 first? Why? He's our best player.
5string Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 I never boo a player nor the team. I try not to groan when something goes wrong. I applaud politely when we score. I might even cheer occasionally. If Vic can accept his situation and knuckle down then I will be overjoyed. Might you then raise a polite eyebrow of ecstasy?
Dig Dig Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 I'll be indifferent to him until he eventually ****s off.
View From The Top Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 RK will be actively looking for a replacement as of now, if one is identified Victor be be pushed out of SFC in Jan. My son and I have just said the same thing.
beowulf Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Never boo a player in your teams shirt on the pitch.
JJSFC Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 I support the team, not the player. I won't get on Wanyama's back, but I certainly won't be singing his name. Same as with Morgan.
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Cheer. If he ever manages to get back on the pitch for a PL game during Koeman's watch, he will have done enough to satisfy Koeman and be redeemed. So why should we drag it out ?
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 RK will be actively looking for a replacement as of now, if one is identified Victor be be pushed out of SFC in Jan. I think you may be right, but guess now the window is shut he will be given a chance at redemption.
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Might you then raise a polite eyebrow of ecstasy? Steady on, that's going a bit too far.
Maggie May Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 It's obvious he's going to get roundly booed. Not bothered about how good he is, I'd rather he'd left today.
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 It's obvious he's going to get roundly booed. Not bothered about how good he is, I'd rather he'd left today. 9.9/10
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 If he's prepared to accept that he's been a bit of an idiot and now wants to knuckle down and get on with the job that he's being paid to do then I don't see the point in booing him. What will that do other than totally un-motivate him? He's a part of the team and if the manager decides to play him then get behind him and the rest of the team.
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 It's obvious he's going to get roundly booed. Not bothered about how good he is, I'd rather he'd left today. You seem to be forgetting that what he's done is no different to what Morgan did last year. Did you wish that Morgan had left on deadline day last year? Morgan accepted the club's decision and got on with the job. If Vic is prepared to do the same then why give him ****? Nobody gave Morgan a hard time.
Golden Balls Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 When he's back in training the gallery will show pictures of him laughing and joking with his team mates. He'll then play and all will be forgotten if he does well. Fans are fickle and Morgan is the proof.
Saint_clark Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Depends, all very well saying "if he makes a mistake no point in getting on his back" (which is true) but it's the effort he puts in i'm more interested in. If we see anymore moments from him like for the Midgetland goal where he just ambles around well out of position while his opposite number belts the ball home with all the time in the world, then I'll consider giving him abuse.
ericofarabia Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 If he pulls on the shirt and gives 100% he'll have my support. Anything less than that will be unacceptable. It's not me he really has to win over tho. Koeman will have to be 100% convinced before he is allowed anywhere near the first team. Unless he goes throwing toys out of the pram on social media or through the press and knuckles down like Morgan did last year he'll be fine. He doesn't seem to upset the players yet if Fonte's interview hoping he stays is anything to go by. I can imagine Koeman has given him a bit of an earful though!! A rousing "He's The Kenyan etc ...." will hopefully let him know we are on his side .... if he gives 100%
mrfahaji Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Cheer, it seems the equivalent of "not bringing yourself down to his level". I might be seething inside but wouldn't allow myself to boo.
Bucks Saint Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Cheer, it seems the equivalent of "not bringing yourself down to his level". I might be seething inside but wouldn't allow myself to boo. I hope you have plenty of meds for your condition. Supporting a team is meant to be a leisure activity
angelman Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 I'll look at it all with a mix of pragmatism and equanimity. When he leaves Saints, I won't be upset, but while he is here, I would hope that he puts in a shift. I'll associate him with our failure in the EL, although I realise that it is a team game and not a one man show. I'll still think Spurs are a bunch of ****s.
Shance Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Looked pants for a while. Don't really care if he's never sighted again.
LostBoys Posted 2 September, 2015 Posted 2 September, 2015 I do not boo players on my team - whatever the **** has done.
whelk Posted 2 September, 2015 Posted 2 September, 2015 A rousing "He's The Kenyan etc ...." will hopefully let him know we are on his side .... if he gives 100% I'm not on his side and despair of the weak 'he was just badly advised' bs that pundits seems to use to explain players acting like spoilt brats. Fcker has shown what he is made of although yeah I am fickle and a month down the line may well feel differently.
whelk Posted 2 September, 2015 Posted 2 September, 2015 (edited) Cheer everyone until you can't cheer any more, even the less talented players. If they actually deliberately don't play to their full potential, or kick the crap out of a spectator in the disabled section, then boo them remorselessly. Sometimes people make supporting a team way too complicated. Doesn't it depend on whether the disabled victim is not an away supporter? Or it could be righteous anger at the spectator incorrectly in the disabled section when able bodied. And his agent may have advised him to make the attach in which case he should be forgiven because agents are the baddies. I think you have underestimated the complexity.: Edited 2 September, 2015 by whelk
SaintTex Posted 2 September, 2015 Posted 2 September, 2015 at this point, it is in the best personal interest of Wanyama and the best interest of the club that he knuckles down and commits himself 100%. We should all support that. If he pouts and is vanquished from the pitch for the year, the team loses his selling value and he loses his opportunity to jump to one of the big boys come June. Les, Ralph, etc. want to sell him next summer for £20m, not £8m. Wanyama wants to play for Arsenal or Spurs, not West Brom. It's in everyone's financial and personal interest that he gets back on the pitch as soon as possible and displays his abilities. I hope no one boos him. Maybe send him out for the MK Dons game away. Go from there.
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