SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 31 August, 2015 Posted 31 August, 2015 (edited) Mayuka gone, just Gaston to go!!! Edited 31 August, 2015 by SOTONS EAST SIDE double post
Colinjb Posted 31 August, 2015 Posted 31 August, 2015 Despite my better instincts, I still cannot help but feel Ramirez is a waste of talent.
ally_uk Posted 31 August, 2015 Posted 31 August, 2015 Should be given a run out has the ability to play killer balls
VectisSaint Posted 31 August, 2015 Posted 31 August, 2015 Mayuka gone, just Gaston to go!!! Maybe you will be disappointed, Ronald said no one from the first team squad will be sold, Gaston, unlike Mayuka, is officially part of the first team squad.
Saint_clark Posted 31 August, 2015 Posted 31 August, 2015 Despite my better instincts, I still cannot help but feel Ramirez is a waste of talent. This. When we're crying out for creativity and unpredictability and complaining about the workmanlike performances of Davis and JWP, Ramirez is another option.
CB Fry Posted 31 August, 2015 Posted 31 August, 2015 Gaston will never again play "as an option". He might play in a League Cup game as a second stringer but that's not quite the same. He is effectively finished at SFC and I'd not be surprised to see him shipped off somewhere tomorrow, like last year.
Golden Balls Posted 31 August, 2015 Posted 31 August, 2015 Such a shame with Gaston. Clearly talented but not suited to English football. He goes missing for long periods but I still think he worth being on the bench as an option. He can do naff all for the whole game but then produce a killer pass for a goal. That makes him more effective than JWP in my opinion.
Dellman Posted 31 August, 2015 Posted 31 August, 2015 Gaston just aint interested, sad because he has talent but he's one of those who is happy to take maximum money for minimum effort. Hull couldn't get much out of him and I doubt there will be any takers for a loan spell, hope I'm wrong
Dark Munster Posted 31 August, 2015 Posted 31 August, 2015 He could have been one of our most mediocre players if he didn't spend so much time in the treatment room.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Can I mention " The Villa game" , no Gaston thread is complete without somebody bringing it up. We've already had " clearly talented " , so I missed out on that one .
EBS1980 Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Wonder where Gaston would go though, many overseas windows have already shut. If he isn't going to feature I'd rather ship him out and use his wages to sign a better version of him
CB Fry Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Wonder where Gaston would go though, many overseas windows have already shut. If he isn't going to feature I'd rather ship him out and use his wages to sign a better version of him That's only dawned on me this morning - I was thinking RK might palm him off to a Dutch league club, where he'd probably look a world beater. Back to Hull, anyone? Brucie?
david in sweden Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Mayuka gone, just Gaston to go!!! ....and I wonder just WHERE he would go?....the window has already closed in France, Spain, Italy and Germany ... maybe another desperate club in the Prem?........or will Koeman manage to turn him into a useful squad player - at last.
david in sweden Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Maybe you will be disappointed, Ronald said no one from the first team squad will be sold, Gaston, unlike Mayuka, is officially part of the first team squad. didn't realise that - does he have a shirt number?. The " 24 player list " doesn't need to be confirmed until next week I think ..or ?
Pilchards Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 ....and I wonder just WHERE he would go?....the window has already closed in France, Spain, Italy and Germany ... maybe another desperate club in the Prem?........or will Koeman manage to turn him into a useful squad player - at last. When we get desperate to get him off our wage bill we will do what we did last year, send a fax out to all the clubs saying we will pay 40% of his wages for the season if you want him on a years loan. I expect he will end up at a club who are still bank rolled by the premiership money from the last two seasons.
Andy Durman Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 (edited) To say that Gaston is not interested is wrong. In pre-season he worked his socks off to impress RK. I watched him in most of the training sessions in Austria. If you saw him you you would have a different opinion. The problem with Gaston is that he doesn't suit our type of play. He's not our type of player. He's more of a Le Tissier than an Brett Omeroyd. He just doesn't have the condition to close down opposition. He can't tackle. He is a genius with his close control and vision, but he isn't fast and clearly was a symbolic purchase by our previous chairman. Just like Le Tissier you either love him or hate him. Alan Ball would have built a team around him. Edited 1 September, 2015 by Andy Durman
CB Fry Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 To say that Gaston is not interested is wrong. In pre-season he worked his socks off to impress RK. I watched him in most of the training sessions in Austria. If you saw him you you would have a different opinion. The problem with Gaston is that he doesn't suit our type of play. He's not our type of player. He's more of a Le Tissier than an Brett Omeroyd. He just doesn't have the condition to close down opposition. He can't tackle. He is a genius with his close control and vision, but he isn't fast and clearly was a symbolic purchase by our previous chairman. Just like Le Tissier you either love him or hate him. Alan Ball would have built a team around him. Okay then.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 To say that Gaston is not interested is wrong. In pre-season he worked his socks off to impress RK. I watched him in most of the training sessions in Austria. If you saw him you you would have a different opinion. The problem with Gaston is that he doesn't suit our type of play. He's not our type of player. He's more of a Le Tissier than an Brett Omeroyd. He just doesn't have the condition to close down opposition. He can't tackle. He is a genius with his close control and vision, but he isn't fast and clearly was a symbolic purchase by our previous chairman. Just like Le Tissier you either love him or hate him. Alan Ball would have built a team around him. Complete and utter nonsense. " Genius, close control and vision" , are you deluded. "Love him or hate him", do me a favour. He's a complete and utter waste of money, a fraud , nicking a living. Comparing him to le Tiss is like comparing the Beatles to S club 7. Alan Ball, like Nigel Adkins, Poch , Ron & Steve Bruce would have dropped him .
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Gaston just aint interested, sad because he has talent but he's one of those who is happy to take maximum money for minimum effort. Hull couldn't get much out of him and I doubt there will be any takers for a loan spell, hope I'm wrong This. Even Mayuka found a home.
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 To say that Gaston is not interested is wrong. In pre-season he worked his socks off to impress RK. I watched him in most of the training sessions in Austria. If you saw him you you would have a different opinion. The problem with Gaston is that he doesn't suit our type of play. He's not our type of player. He's more of a Le Tissier than an Brett Omeroyd. He just doesn't have the condition to close down opposition. He can't tackle. He is a genius with his close control and vision, but he isn't fast and clearly was a symbolic purchase by our previous chairman. Just like Le Tissier you either love him or hate him. Alan Ball would have built a team around him. Andy, I saw him in Bischofshofen. He made a few runs with the ball and a couple of passes in the first 10mins, then disappeared. Again. I just dont think your assessment rings entirely true. We didnt change the way we played at that point. Just that Juanmi proved so much better at it. The play bypassed him. He doesnt get himself involved anywhere near enough.
TwoPints Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Oops... For those not on twitter, it says: #SaintsFC closing in on a deal for Celtic's Virgil van Dijk - likely to be main business of day. They are struggling to shift Gaston Ramirez
mrfahaji Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 Just like Le Tissier you either love him or hate him. Alan Ball would have built a team around him. That was always Le Tissier's problem, so many Saints fans hated him...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 They are struggling to shift Gaston Ramirez Yeah, no sh*t.
Saint IQ Posted 1 September, 2015 Posted 1 September, 2015 If we have him in the team just for the cup competitions he could be the difference in us knocking out Sheffield United in the 1/4 finals or being knocked out by Sheffield United in the 1/4 finals...You heard it here first
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