The9 Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 Was he responsible for all the goals scored and conceded then? if not I can't see what bearing that stat has on anything. Schneiderlin was on the pitch for +0.93 goals PER GAME. Yoshida 0. You carry on thinking there's no correlation, but it's pretty obvious that when all our good players play we do well, and when crap ones play we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 They are unwarranted because it wasn't Matty's decision to be thrown in at the deep end because of Bertrand's injury and Matty doesnt select himself for these games does he? The fact is he's young and not really ready for the prem yet. This doesn't make him rubbish and certainly doesnt mean he won't be a solid prem left back in years to come? MT is a die hard Saints fan as are his family. As a nipper he'd be out in his garden every single night practicing. We should be proud that we have a player who actually genuinely loves the club. Just think how good he'll be in a few years with all of the prem game time he's getting. Wouldnt get that at any other club and that's why we're the best. Just give him a chance and watch him grow into a v decent player. Its not always about being amazing straight away. Well said. I am amazed and more than a little disturbed by the criticism of one of our own by so-called fans on this board. Incredible that the same people who sing "One Ronald Koeman" at games are so vitriolic towards one of the players picked by the very man they continue to praise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 hm. I think that's far too defensive for playing against a tony pulis side. I say romeu, alongside either JWP or Davis. But then replace your Davis with Juanmi (not sure why you didn't include him - is he away...?) and you're set. I would even consider giving Long a start. With the absence of Mane we desperately need both pace and creativity. Between Juanmi and Long we should be able to provide that. But I'd stick with Pelle as you suggest for sake of impact: I think Long can have a real impact coming on as a 60/70 minute sub. So mine is: -------Stekelenburg------------ Cedric Fonte Van Dijk Targett -------------Romeu------------- -------JWP/Davis----Juanmi Rodriguez-----Pelle-------Tadic I know it looks light in midfield. But JWP/Davis are playing further back than I've shown. Juanmi over Martina on the bench, now I've remembered he exists. I don't think we'll start Juanmi in an away game first. As for JWP/Davis further back, we're going to have to do more than have one win at home against a promoted side with 10 men before I think that's a viable option away from home. We'll keep picking defensive sides until it's clearly not working any more. I think with our first choice players (especially Bertrand) we'll be a lot more solid than we have been, though Van Dijk/Romeu/Clasie's level will have a lot of effect on where we actually end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 Davis should not be anywhere near DM ever again. He's a solid player further forward but is a liability there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 Just because a 22 year old recent signing hasn't played much in the opening 4 league games of a season doesn't mean you should jump to the conclusion that Koeman doesn't think he is a good player. He is behind Mane, Tadic, Rodriguez and Long in the pecking order and has time on his side to make an impression. As I've mentioned before, it doesn't make sense to pick another new player in a position we don't have to, at a time when we're already picking a lot of new players due to injury or player sales. Juanmi's time will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 Davis should not be anywhere near DM ever again. He's a solid player further forward but is a liability there. He's no Romeu or Wanyama, that's for sure. We always seem to look short when he's meant to be playing DM rather than AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 They are unwarranted because it wasn't Matty's decision to be thrown in at the deep end because of Bertrand's injury and Matty doesnt select himself for these games does he? The fact is he's young and not really ready for the prem yet. This doesn't make him rubbish and certainly doesnt mean he won't be a solid prem left back in years to come? MT is a die hard Saints fan as are his family. As a nipper he'd be out in his garden every single night practicing. We should be proud that we have a player who actually genuinely loves the club. Just think how good he'll be in a few years with all of the prem game time he's getting. Wouldnt get that at any other club and that's why we're the best. Just give him a chance and watch him grow into a v decent player. Its not always about being amazing straight away. To be fair I probably played football every day from the age of about 6 until I was 15 too, that's hardly a sign of dedication. I'm sure he's still got a chance of turning into a solid Prem player, but he's suffering in comparison with Bertrand at the moment and some people expect him to be as good as Bridge or Shaw just because he's come through the same system for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint97 Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 Was excellent against Norwich, didn't let Redmond have a sniff all game Excellent? defended okay and didn't do anything good going forward. You standard's must be extremely low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint97 Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 ------------Stekelenburg--------- Cedric, Fonte, VVD, Yoshida ------Romeu----Wanyama------ --------------JWP--------------- Mane(If fit)-----Pelle---Tadic Rodriguez in for Mane if he's not fit, Tadic needs to stay on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 I get the impression the West Brom media team are getting annoyed with the press... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 Got a spare ticket if anyone needs one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfield Saint Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 Excellent? defended okay and didn't do anything good going forward. You standard's must be extremely low. Give it a rest you tedious pr 1 ck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint97 Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 Got a spare u16 ticket for tomorrow. £5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 I get the impression the West Brom media team are getting annoyed with the press... 9:10 and 9:50 my personal highlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 I get the impression the West Brom media team are getting annoyed with the press... Have to say that is excellent quality video - I mean visually, not the dire content. Not sure our video quality is as good? Just imagine live streams with that resolution and no jitter :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Excellent? defended okay and didn't do anything good going forward. You standard's must be extremely low. He was excellent against Norwich. Not really many people other than yourself arguing against that.... Glasgow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granite_City_Saint Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Lies, damn lies and statistics. It is easy to select isolated figures that agree with your view. It does not mean that those numbers in any way support your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Think the team picks itself today, injury/mentality permitting. Let's get a win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 I get the impression the West Brom media team are getting annoyed with the press... Another media team with a very good sense of humour, love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Schneiderlin was on the pitch for +0.93 goals PER GAME. Yoshida 0. You carry on thinking there's no correlation, but it's pretty obvious that when all our good players play we do well, and when crap ones play we don't. Lies, damn lies and statistics. It is easy to select isolated figures that agree with your view. It does not mean that those numbers in any way support your argument. Saved me some typing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintAndy14 Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 They are unwarranted because it wasn't Matty's decision to be thrown in at the deep end because of Bertrand's injury and Matty doesnt select himself for these games does he? The fact is he's young and not really ready for the prem yet. This doesn't make him rubbish and certainly doesnt mean he won't be a solid prem left back in years to come? MT is a die hard Saints fan as are his family. As a nipper he'd be out in his garden every single night practicing. We should be proud that we have a player who actually genuinely loves the club. Just think how good he'll be in a few years with all of the prem game time he's getting. Wouldnt get that at any other club and that's why we're the best. Just give him a chance and watch him grow into a v decent player. Its not always about being amazing straight away. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 How are they unwarranted? When has he played well this season? He's a f**king nipper for f**ks sake, I bet you were f**king fantastic at 19, or not! You and the others who attack our players on here, are a f**king disgrace, you're not fans in any sense of the word, sod of and support someone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentry Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 He's a f**king nipper for f**ks sake, I bet you were f**king fantastic at 19, or not! You and the others who attack our players on here, are a f**king disgrace, you're not fans in any sense of the word, sod of and support someone else I concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 They are unwarranted because it wasn't Matty's decision to be thrown in at the deep end because of Bertrand's injury and Matty doesnt select himself for these games does he? The fact is he's young and not really ready for the prem yet. This doesn't make him rubbish and certainly doesnt mean he won't be a solid prem left back in years to come? MT is a die hard Saints fan as are his family. As a nipper he'd be out in his garden every single night practicing. We should be proud that we have a player who actually genuinely loves the club. Just think how good he'll be in a few years with all of the prem game time he's getting. Wouldnt get that at any other club and that's why we're the best. Just give him a chance and watch him grow into a v decent player. Its not always about being amazing straight away. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Any early streams for match please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Preview: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/content.php?657-PREVIEW-West-Bromwich-Albion-vs-SAINTS-Barclays-Premier-League-2015-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Any early streams for match please An interesting Website with a collection of links to all games and more. http://weblinks.altervista.org/SPTV.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 He's a f**king nipper for f**ks sake, I bet you were f**king fantastic at 19, or not! You and the others who attack our players on here, are a f**king disgrace, you're not fans in any sense of the word, sod of and support someone else Going by his username and immaturity of his posts, I would suggest he's not reached 19 yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Yeah, he's not spectacular going forward, and he's not spectacular defensively but he's done pretty well, hasn't looked out of place, is only going to improve and I'm proud to have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Not sure why Romeu was dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Stek Cedric Fonte VvD Targett Vic JWP Davis Tadic Pelle Rodriguez subs K. Davis (GK), Yoshida, Long, Mané, Romeu, Juanmi, Caulker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Harsh to drop Romeu for someone who didn't want to be selected for the last two games.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Any early streams for match please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 very strong bench, have to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Romeu did not deserve to be dropped. Victor should be on the bench, from the games he has actually played in, he didn't show any sort of decent form at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 I think all positive noises from Koeman around Wanyama, plus Mane's late return and Yoshida's long haul, means we'll go with this: -------Stekelenburg------------ Cedric Fonte Van Dijk Targett -----Wanyama Romeu--------- Rodriguez --Davis-----Tadic-- ------------Pelle---------------- Subs: GK, Martina, Caulker, Yoshida, Ward-Prowse, Long, Mane That rotates a fair few of our longer-haul players who played international matches. Assumptions are: Wanyama plays if fit; Van Dijk starts; We play not to concede away from home - but 4-2-3-1 provides that with 2 DMs so we don't need the back 5; We need an attacking front 4 but we are still away and Davis is the most defensive AM we have; Mane may be tired - so Rodriguez gives that attacking presence; Yoshida may be tired so Targett continues (though personally I'd play Yoshida at LB if he's ok). Bit harsh on JWP especially as he scored for U21s midweek and must be flying. Might even start Long at his old club instead of Rodriguez but we don't start with Long often. So Ward-Prowse for Romeu but otherwise as above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 subs K. Davis (GK), Yoshida, Long, Mané, Romeu, Juanmi, Caulker very strong bench, have to say With Bertrand and Clasie still to come back, we have a lot of options and some decent players aren't even going to be in the match day 18 soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 So Ward-Prowse for Romeu but otherwise as above. Plus Yoshida for Martina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diabolus Ex Machina Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Think getting JRod involved up top will be important. Wanyama better be at his best cos I can see the fans getting on his back if he looks like he isn't giving 100% especially since he's replacing Romeu who has been one of our best players recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Targett looked good whenever he played last season (one slip vs Liverpool aside). This season his two worst games have come at wing back, both in shocking team performances at Watford and in Denmark. I hardly see grounds to write him off (especially with the kind of vitriol on display here), given that he's still young and relatively inexperienced at this level. Recently we've been lucky enough to see Shaw, Chambers and Chamberlain seamlessly fit into the side as if they'd been there for years, whereas in the current squad we have Reed, Ward-Prowse and Targett, none of whom have nailed down first team places and excelled week on week. Now this might seem a ridiculous notion, but I tend to think that just because our youth team players (seen as full of potential by the likes of Koeman and Hodgson) aren't immediately amongst our best performers in the first team that doesn't mean they can't be valuable players for us in the future. They might even have outright bad games now and again. Young academy players, Southampton supporters. They're what you say you want aren't they, but when Targett looked every bit a downgrade on our £12m first choice LB vs Watford the other week the reaction from 'supporters' behind me was shocking. For what it's worth, I still think JWP will be a really excellent CM for us. He has so much technical ability and I think he'll get better and better at applying it in the PL. Targett also looks a great option at backup to me and could well make the place his own in 2 or 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 (edited) just watching the Everton v Chelsea game. Have to say, Stones has been very good. 3-1 to everton. Naismith gets his 3rd Edited 12 September, 2015 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1976 Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Shame that ***ts like VW get can be anywhere near the team. Not withstanding the moronic behavior, he's been utter dross in every game he's played so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Naismith hatrick and we got Davis, he owes us some goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Someone posted a reddit link before one of our matches the other day, European I think, which had a cracking HD stream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Absolute madness to drop Romeu who was our best player against Norwich. Don't understand this at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Stunned by that in all honesty. Didn't wanyama only get back from international duty yesterday? And Romeu has been amazing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Stunned by that in all honesty. Didn't wanyama only get back from international duty yesterday? And Romeu has been amazing for us. big call from Ron. will be made to look silly if Vic is all over the place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 I suppose he might argue to Vic: "I'm giving you your chance, play well or I'll bring on Romeu". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Anyone got a decent stream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 Wanyama to score and have a blinder today. It's one of those games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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