Window Cleaner Posted 7 September, 2015 Posted 7 September, 2015 Going off topic here but I don't understand why we didn't go in for Nathan Dyer on loan, decent pace, scores the old goal ex saints....... because he's not the sort of player that we recrute.
Matthew Le God Posted 7 September, 2015 Posted 7 September, 2015 Going off topic here but I don't understand why we didn't go in for Nathan Dyer on loan, decent pace, scores the old goal ex saints....... Saints would have had to buy him, they couldn't loan him as we have the max 2 domestic loans (Caulker & Stekelenburg). Plus we don't really have room for him, he wouldn't be a starter and we have a lot of attacking options on the bench. We haven't signed Long and Juanmi to not even make our bench.
alehouseboys Posted 7 September, 2015 Posted 7 September, 2015 Away tickets now sold out. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20150814-tickets-west-bromwich-albion-southampton-2620575.aspx C'mon Saints, let's keep this winning run going
diggers Posted 7 September, 2015 Posted 7 September, 2015 That's the one. I think Kieran Richardson hit the bar as well. That was he night welter out "Arry &Jim are red'n'white" for the whole second half. That's awkward! Then there was the game with the snowballs in the car park and down the path where the old chap got his greenhouse bombed with snowballs. :lol:
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 7 September, 2015 Posted 7 September, 2015 I hear 'The Vine' pub is the place to go before the game.. Does anyone know if they'll be showing the 5.30pm kick off (Liverpool vs United)? Also, I have a spare ticket if anyone would like to buy it - face value.
The Cat Posted 7 September, 2015 Posted 7 September, 2015 The Vine gets absolutely rammed before the game to the point where it's actually quite hard to navigate your way around it and getting a beer can take ages. Maybe it is quieter after but I've never been in for a post match pint.
Mr X Posted 7 September, 2015 Posted 7 September, 2015 because he's not the sort of player that we recrute. Yup some seem to have forgotten he's a convicted thief
Batman Posted 7 September, 2015 Posted 7 September, 2015 because he's not the sort of player that we recrute. he is the sort we 'breed'
MarkSFC Posted 7 September, 2015 Posted 7 September, 2015 can't wait for this game....first away game for 2 seasons and a first visit to The Hawthorns. Going with my Saints supporting mate who lives up there and his WBA mates, so should be fun in the pub before and after the game.
Batman Posted 7 September, 2015 Posted 7 September, 2015 Outside of our game. I would kind of like it if United could smash liverpool if poss
alpine_saint Posted 7 September, 2015 Posted 7 September, 2015 Nervous that Rickie and Berahino will tear us a new ass.
The9 Posted 7 September, 2015 Posted 7 September, 2015 Nervous that Rickie and Berahino will tear us a new ass. Seeing as one's not going to get time to do anything, and the other one probably won't get near the team because he's been trying to leave, this kind of sums up your paranoia.
Patrick Bateman Posted 7 September, 2015 Posted 7 September, 2015 Seeing as one's not going to get time to do anything, and the other one probably won't get near the team because he's been trying to leave, this kind of sums up your paranoia. Would agree with this. If Berahino plays, I'll be stunned. Likewise, coming round to the idea that Lambert, bless him, is no longer a Premier League player. There's an element of being f**ked up by Liverpool/Brendan, but I think we saw him at his peak and it makes me sad to see him play now.
Dark Munster Posted 7 September, 2015 Posted 7 September, 2015 that really is the only fixture where i want a utd win Don't forget against Spurs. Or a cup draw against the Skates (however unlikely).
ericofarabia Posted 7 September, 2015 Posted 7 September, 2015 On the off chance that anymore spare tickets crop up, mate of mine just returned to UK from Dubai missed out on getting tickets. Looking for Adult and Child, but 2 Adults would be fine. Cheers
Saint Garrett Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 Would agree with this. If Berahino plays, I'll be stunned. Likewise, coming round to the idea that Lambert, bless him, is no longer a Premier League player. There's an element of being f**ked up by Liverpool/Brendan, but I think we saw him at his peak and it makes me sad to see him play now. He's still a decent player, don't think it's very fair to say he's now past it, he's more than capable to cause us some problems. Especially when he drops into midfield and has runners past him.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 He's still a decent player, don't think it's very fair to say he's now past it, he's more than capable to cause us some problems. Especially when he drops into midfield and has runners past him. He still has quality (see his ball for the West Brom winner against Stoke for example) but his mobility is starting to disappear and as a consequence his ability to impose himself on a game.
knellster Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 On the off chance that anymore spare tickets crop up, mate of mine just returned to UK from Dubai missed out on getting tickets. Looking for Adult and Child, but 2 Adults would be fine. Cheers Text / ring me on 07904 524766. I think I can help.
Saint Garrett Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 He still has quality (see his ball for the West Brom winner against Stoke for example) but his mobility is starting to disappear and as a consequence his ability to impose himself on a game. Agree he was at his best when he was with us, but he was never particularly mobile. His technical ability is outstanding.
doddisalegend Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 He still has quality (see his ball for the West Brom winner against Stoke for example) but his mobility is starting to disappear and as a consequence his ability to impose himself on a game. The bbc had Rickie down as Motm despite coming on as a sub so clearly he is not quite finished yet.
Marsdinho Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 Don't know if this has been mentioned, but West Brom have created a fan zone, opens this Saturday for the Saints game. http://mobile.wba.co.uk//news/article/albion-west-brom-fanzone-the-hawthorns-southampton-2674791.aspx
Saint Garrett Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 WBA are pretty average at best, but then we've lost to some absolute ****e this year, especially away. Again would take a draw to keep a bit of momentum going. Expect VVD to come straight in but other than that no changes to the Norwich team. Big Vic probably on the bench, although I'd prefer him in to Davis with JWP further forward. Just don't get how Davis keeps getting in when his form is so poor. Least JWP adds set pieces and suddenly our corners are vaguely dangerous. Tadic/Pelle/Mane picks itself at the moment, unfortunately for Rodriguez and Juanmi. He's an important cog to our team, we miss him when he doesn't play.
Saint Garrett Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 Don't know if this has been mentioned, but West Brom have created a fan zone, opens this Saturday for the Saints game. http://mobile.wba.co.uk//news/article/albion-west-brom-fanzone-the-hawthorns-southampton-2674791.aspx Looks like a car park to me,
doddisalegend Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 He's an important cog to our team, we miss him when he doesn't play. He works his socks off closing down and pressing the opposition usual he is pretty good at retaining possession and finding a pass. What lets him down is the more dynamic side of the game going forward plus literally no goal scoring ability.
Saint Garrett Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 He works his socks off closing down and pressing the opposition usual he is pretty good at retaining possession and finding a pass. What lets him down is the more dynamic side of the game going forward plus literally no goal scoring ability. Yup - agree. I like him though, he just needs 3 attacking players round him, and his lack of goalscoring ability is frustrating, but he is such a good link player between defence and attack.
The Cat Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 Don't know if this has been mentioned, but West Brom have created a fan zone, opens this Saturday for the Saints game. http://mobile.wba.co.uk//news/article/albion-west-brom-fanzone-the-hawthorns-southampton-2674791.aspx Most of that article appears to be an advert for Greggs. They do love their pastries in the midlands.
simo Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 Yup - agree. I like him though, he just needs 3 attacking players round him, and his lack of goalscoring ability is frustrating, but he is such a good link player between defence and attack. If you watched him last night he was always the one breaking up the play , closing down fast and picking up the loose balls!
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 I've got 1 x Adult ticket going spare if anyone is interested? Yours for £20.
niceandfriendly Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 Most of that article appears to be an advert for Greggs. They do love their pastries in the midlands. Use Chrome and install AdBlock. Thank me later.
ericofarabia Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 Text / ring me on 07904 524766. I think I can help. Sorry about late reply, out all day and no Internet Access. Thanks for the offer, but its been sorted out already, sure there will be other takers!! Cheers Eric
mirrorcarp Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 Have 1 spare ticket for this if anyone wants it. Face value obviously. Pick up totton. Lee 07799155792
Leicestersaint Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 The fact that Davis scores so few lets him (and us) down badly.
Avenue Saint Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 Yet he was there playing in many of our worst performances. It used to be true, he was underrated and did a solid job, but not anymore. Just seems to be a ready made excuse to keep him in and avoid any criticism, but he's been poor for a long time, poor decision making, woeful finisher, poor set pieces, no incisive passing in final third. Couldn't agree more. Can't see how he will start when we get Wanama and Romeu paired up, And Clasie gets up Ms running.
doddisalegend Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 Couldn't agree more. Can't see how he will start when we get Wanama and Romeu paired up, And Clasie gets up Ms running. Errrrrmmmmm because he is an attacking midfielder (just not a goal scoring AM) and the other three are Defensive midfielders I know Ronald likes it tight at the back but I don't think even he wants to play 3 holding/defensive midfielders. If Davis is dropped it will be to play another attacking midfielder, which we don't really have, so it's either JWP (possible) or Gaston (pretty unlikely). Alternatively Koeman plays another attacking player like Juanmi or Mane in the number 10 but the early games we did that in we were to open so Koeman may not want to do that again. Really as a squad we are short a good defensive AM so I can see Davis playing a lot this season due to a lack of a better option.....sorry about that.
verlaine1979 Posted 8 September, 2015 Posted 8 September, 2015 Errrrrmmmmm because he is an attacking midfielder (just not a goal scoring AM) and the other three are Defensive midfielders I know Ronald likes it tight at the back but I don't think even he wants to play 3 holding/defensive midfielders. If Davis is dropped it will be to play another attacking midfielder, which we don't really have, so it's either JWP (possible) or Gaston (pretty unlikely). Alternatively Koeman plays another attacking player like Juanmi or Mane in the number 10 but the early games we did that in we were to open so Koeman may not want to do that again. Really as a squad we are short a good defensive AM so I can see Davis playing a lot this season due to a lack of a better option.....sorry about that. Out of interest, how does an AM who doesn't score or create differ from a DM who doesn't score or create?
doddisalegend Posted 9 September, 2015 Posted 9 September, 2015 Out of interest, how does an AM who doesn't score or create differ from a DM who doesn't score or create? Anyone who has seen Steven Davis trying to play as a DM could clearly see the difference I would say.
niceandfriendly Posted 9 September, 2015 Posted 9 September, 2015 The fact that Davis scores so few lets him (and us) down badly. That, and the fact he has been really off form for the past 1 and a half seasons. Like him but he has really struggled recently.
eddie Posted 9 September, 2015 Posted 9 September, 2015 Errrrrmmmmm because he is an attacking midfielder (just not a goal scoring AM) and the other three are Defensive midfielders I know Ronald likes it tight at the back but I don't think even he wants to play 3 holding/defensive midfielders. If Davis is dropped it will be to play another attacking midfielder, which we don't really have, so it's either JWP (possible) or Gaston (pretty unlikely). Alternatively Koeman plays another attacking player like Juanmi or Mane in the number 10 but the early games we did that in we were to open so Koeman may not want to do that again. Really as a squad we are short a good defensive AM so I can see Davis playing a lot this season due to a lack of a better option.....sorry about that. Ah yes, the classic football position. Left/Centre defensive full-number 10 what you mean is just a box-to-box midfielder.....which koeman/reed clearly know we need as we were looking to get one on loan from abroad at the end of the window. didn't happen, but doesn't mean it's a travesty. We're flexible enough as a team with enough player variation that we can mess around with a system/formation and make it work. Arsenal seem to do pretty well with absolutely zero midfielders who put in any kind of defensive duty or have any kind of 'presence' (i.e. are big) and who play further forward than coquelin. sanchez is probably the player of their front line who tracks back and puts in tackles from the front more than any other...which is pretty damning. We'll be fine.
sandwichsaint Posted 9 September, 2015 Posted 9 September, 2015 Text / ring me on 07904 524766. I think I can help. Are these still available? I have texted you on that number.
del boy Posted 9 September, 2015 Posted 9 September, 2015 The fact that Davis scores so few lets him (and us) down badly. Peter Shilton was the same
The9 Posted 9 September, 2015 Posted 9 September, 2015 (edited) Anyone who has seen Steven Davis trying to play as a DM could clearly see the difference I would say. This is very true. But I think Steven Davis playing in the hole and getting criticised for not scoring enough whilst pressing and moving the ball on quickly and being key to our attacking is far preferable to Steven Davis playing theoretically alongside a DM and not defending enough and costing us goals, which is what happens when he plays deeper. Box to box midfielder is one thing, but we are far more secure with 2 sitting DMs, it's just a question of when we feel safe enough that we shouldn't use them. Edited 9 September, 2015 by The9
The9 Posted 9 September, 2015 Posted 9 September, 2015 Arsenal seem to do pretty well with absolutely zero midfielders who put in any kind of defensive duty or have any kind of 'presence' (i.e. are big) and who play further forward than coquelin. sanchez is probably the player of their front line who tracks back and puts in tackles from the front more than any other...which is pretty damning. We'll be fine. Or alternatively, Arsenal do really poorly for a club with their resources due to not being strong enough defensively at key points of the season.
eddie Posted 9 September, 2015 Posted 9 September, 2015 Or alternatively, Arsenal do really poorly for a club with their resources due to not being strong enough defensively at key points of the season. No, granted. Of course I agree. and obviously we all know their constantly troubles for the best part of the last decade, but I suppose what I was saying is a successful football team isn't dependent on a specific formation; i.e. it's not like in the absence of a big number 8/10 means we'll be weak or vulnerable. There's plenty of options to tweak and play around, rather than putting so much pressure on needing cover in that one position.
Beckenham Saint Posted 9 September, 2015 Posted 9 September, 2015 Would agree with this. If Berahino plays, I'll be stunned. Likewise, coming round to the idea that Lambert, bless him, is no longer a Premier League player. There's an element of being f**ked up by Liverpool/Brendan, but I think we saw him at his peak and it makes me sad to see him play now. Despite the fact that he's been playing well for WBA since signing...
knellster Posted 9 September, 2015 Posted 9 September, 2015 Are these still available? I have texted you on that number. Yes they're still available, but I can't see your text.
Ken Tone Posted 9 September, 2015 Posted 9 September, 2015 Do people think Van Dijk will start this match, or will we phase him in to the PL? It is such a higher standard than the Scottish Premiership - he will need to adjust.
the saint in winchester Posted 9 September, 2015 Posted 9 September, 2015 He'll play. No better way to get up to speed than playing. Yoshi on the bench as backup.
Ken Tone Posted 9 September, 2015 Posted 9 September, 2015 He'll play. No better way to get up to speed than playing. Yoshi on the bench as backup. I hope Ron tells him just to concentrate on defence to begin with. He won't be able to go steaming up field like he's used to, at least not till he's settled in properly.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 9 September, 2015 Posted 9 September, 2015 He'll play. No better way to get up to speed than playing. Yoshi on the bench as backup. I don't think its a guarantee that he or Wanyama start. We won our last game 3-0.
VectisSaint Posted 9 September, 2015 Posted 9 September, 2015 I don't think its a guarantee that he or Wanyama start. We won our last game 3-0. Agreed, I would not be surprised to see Virgil on the bench for WBA, and I'm not even sure Wanyama will be on the bench. I would expect Ronald will like to keep faith in the team that performed so well against Norwich, and will want Virgil and Jose to train more together first before he is put in to the firing line. It would be very harsh on Yoshida to drop him as well.
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