Injury Watch

[iansums]

I see that Sully is back in training

[Saint Matty 76]

12 minutes ago, iansums said:

I see that Sully is back in training

My biggest hope going into this season was that we'd somehow have Sulemana - Alcaraz - Tella playing behind the striker, through all the noise we've encountered these past two months, could actually be a possibility?

[The Cat]

I wonder how bad Stephens' injury is. At least we have cover there now with Holgate in and the possibility of another CB too.

Thought Charles did a good job today back there, and his composure in bringing the ball out gives us more control in possession.

[S-Clarke]

1 hour ago, The Cat said:

I wonder how bad Stephens' injury is. At least we have cover there now with Holgate in and the possibility of another CB too.

Thought Charles did a good job today back there, and his composure in bringing the ball out gives us more control in possession.

It didn't look good to be fair, he was thumping the turf repeatedly when it happened. Looks like he knew it was a bad one.

[SaintBobby]

In his interview, RM said it was bad.

I'm not sure of the injury? He did walk off the pitch (with support), seemed he couldn't put weight on his right leg. (do we not do stretchers in the Championship?). Is that a hamstring tear?

[Polegategavin243]

6 minutes ago, SaintBobby said:

In his interview, RM said it was bad.

I'm not sure of the injury? He did walk off the pitch (with support), seemed he couldn't put weight on his right leg. (do we not do stretchers in the Championship?). Is that a hamstring tear?

I think it was more likely a calf strain, or ligament damage to the calf/ ankle.

[SaintBobby]

3 minutes ago, Polegategavin243 said:

I think it was more likely a calf strain, or ligament damage to the calf/ ankle.

I'm no medic, but a strain/pull would not be too bad....a tear however....?

[Essruu]

On 26/08/2023 at 23:31, Polegategavin243 said:

I think it was more likely a calf strain, or ligament damage to the calf/ ankle.

Immediately after the match he said he was hoping it was calf and not achilles. But seemed to be fearing the worst. 

[Crab Lungs]

On 29/08/2023 at 10:41, Essruu said:

Immediately after the match he said he was hoping it was calf and not achilles. But seemed to be fearing the worst. 

Essruu. Wow. Legend. 🫡

[VectisSaint]

On 29/08/2023 at 10:41, Essruu said:

Immediately after the match he said he was hoping it was calf and not achilles. But seemed to be fearing the worst. 

Wilcox mentioned in interview with Blackmore (before yesterday's game) that Jack would be out until Christmas, which is a lot more than RM's 7 games.

[Give it to Ron]

I know not Saints related but Lavia tore ankle ligaments at training yesterday out for a while.

[SW11_Saint]

Another one bites the dust… 

https://x.com/alfiehouseecho/status/1700956292800479485?s=46&t=6zx5qf2H7nuEX1l3EabHng

[InvictaSaint]

7 hours ago, SW11_Saint said:

Another one bites the dust… 

https://x.com/alfiehouseecho/status/1700956292800479485?s=46&t=6zx5qf2H7nuEX1l3EabHng

It’s such a nothing piece though. Poor from Alfie as he’s better than that. It says no more than the tweet from the polish media! We don’t know what the injury is or how serious. 

[Sheaf Saint]

On 09/09/2023 at 07:58, Give it to Ron said:

I know not Saints related but Lavia tore ankle ligaments at training yesterday out for a while.

It's not like he was going to be in their starting 11 anytime soon though. 

[iansums]

Does anyone know when we can expect to see Stewart playing?

[VectisSaint]

3 hours ago, iansums said:

Does anyone know when we can expect to see Stewart playing?

RM seems to be sticking to "after the next international break" line in the Presser this morning, so possibly Hull away on 21st. Sounds like he is training with the main group. Jack Stephens though doesn't seem so hopeful, certainly not in the same timeframe as Stewart, which is what Martin originally suggested (he would miss about 7 games), more inline with what Wilcox said pre Sunderland, i.e. around Christmas. Martin acknowledged Jack was a huge loss, as he is the only one (his words) with a voice. 

[goodymatt]

Sounds like Juan Larios has had another setback and will be out for another 2 months.

[Jazzfunk]

Harwood Bellis out of the U21 squad with a hamstring issue 😞

[Whitey Grandad]

11 minutes ago, Jazzfunk said:

Harwood Bellis out of the U21 squad with a hamstring issue 😞

Bugger. That must take six weeks or more.

[davefizzy14]

16 minutes ago, Jazzfunk said:

Harwood Bellis out of the U21 squad with a hamstring issue 😞

Really hoping its just precautionary.

Edited 11 October, 2023 by davefizzy14

[trousers]

1 hour ago, Jazzfunk said:

Harwood Bellis out of the U21 squad with a hamstring issue 😞

Source? Can't see any mention of it on soshal meeja... Cheers 👍

[beatlesaint]

13 hours ago, Jazzfunk said:

Harwood Bellis out of the U21 squad with a hamstring issue 😞

Words I never thought I would ever say - I hope Stephens is fit soon then !

[Dusic]

Holgate or Charles?

Surely got to be Holgate as he is actually a CB. Obviously poor start but he might get a run now in his preferred position.

[lambtiss]

34 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Holgate or Charles?

Surely got to be Holgate as he is actually a CB. Obviously poor start but he might get a run now in his preferred position.

Charles for me, purely based on Holgate's 2 poor performances so far in a Saints shirt. 

[goodymatt]

https://x.com/southamptonfc/status/1719341955375579238?s=46&t=7raSKCMt6LV8RJ1C2d39WQ

Looks like Stephens is now back in light training. Welcome back Captain 🫡

Might be hard for him to get back in at the moment but it’s positive competition for places and hopefully keeps Holgate out the side.

 Video link of Jack doing light training: https://x.com/southamptonfc/status/1719329545394819308?s=46&t=7raSKCMt6LV8RJ1C2d39WQ

Edited 31 October, 2023 by goodymatt

[Convict Colony]

Holgate did ok v Preston and only KWP and Smallbone were rated better for us.

Important to be able to change your view on a player with improved performances.

https://www.flashscore.com/match/2BkNXzo6/#/match-summary/lineups

 

[kjurwi]

Any news on Smallbones knock?

[Tommy Mulgrew]

Smallbone’s knock and Che’s groin; hmmm.  Are they by any chance related?

[goodymatt]

I got the impression Downes was feeling his calf when he came off. On the pitchside unseen video on YouTube he appears to mention his calf to Martin on his way off the pitch as well. Hopefully he’s fine for Huddersfield.

[goodymatt]

Martin just confirmed that Stephens is back on the grass with the team, still need to be managed but it’s a big step in his return.

[SaintBobby]

Sulemana is a hamstring injury, right? Well, that might mean we don’t lose him in the January window.

[Whitey Grandad]

10 hours ago, SaintBobby said:

Sulemana is a hamstring injury, right? Well, that might mean we don’t lose him in the January window.

Also the African Cup of Nations, perhaps.

[hypochondriac]

You never want any injuries but if we have to have some then Sulemana and Stewart are two that will have much less impact than other players. We have capable deputies in Edozie and Amo Ameyew and Stewart hasn't done anything this year anyway so won't be missed. 

[davefizzy14]

Real blow to lose both Stewart and Sulemana until mid/end of next month. Hopefully both will be back quicker than expected.

[VectisSaint]

3 hours ago, davefizzy14 said:

Real blow to lose both Stewart and Sulemana until mid/end of next month. Hopefully both will be back quicker than expected.

Didn't sound like it, especially Stewart, I would suggest early February at best. 

[Dark Munster]

Maybe this is partly why RM was in such a filthy mood when interviewed by Blackmore after the match on Wednesday?

[Chewy]

9 hours ago, Dark Munster said:

Maybe this is partly why RM was in such a filthy mood when interviewed by Blackmore after the match on Wednesday?

What about the rest of us? Waited 5 transfer windows to sign a vaguely competent forward and he’s not fit for weeks, plays 5 minutes and is out for another load of weeks.

Absolutely ludicrous and quite frankly negligent by our recruitment team over the last 3 seasons.

[a1ex2001]

1 hour ago, Chewy said:

What about the rest of us? Waited 5 transfer windows to sign a vaguely competent forward and he’s not fit for weeks, plays 5 minutes and is out for another load of weeks.

Absolutely ludicrous and quite frankly negligent by our recruitment team over the last 3 seasons.

Why are biggest signing this summer was a player with a serious injury I have no idea, have we signed another Delgado?  Surely the manager will be begging for another forward signing in January?

[david in sweden]

On 02/12/2023 at 11:50, a1ex2001 said:

Why are biggest signing this summer was a player with a serious injury I have no idea, have we signed another Delgado?  Surely the manager will be begging for another forward signing in January?

Hopefully we will see a new striker in January, we certainly need a few alternatives to our present strike force and increase our GD.

Delgado ..who ironically often wasn't " fit enough " to play for Saints, but still went to the World Cup .. and scored a goal.

as for Ross Stewart... sometimes long injury breaks are more frustrating for managers and fans, but can often give new life to a player's career.

Danny Ings  played some great football after he came from Liverpool (and more than a year's lay-off with injuries)...and then went on to play for England.

[Chewy]

Does anyone have enough inside info to advise on what the issue and anticipated recovery time is for:

Larios

Stewart

Kamaldeen

Doyle

Edwards?

Hear the odd bits when injuries first happen but be good to have an idea in one place. Plus I didn’t even know Doyle was injured until this last week.

Thanks in advance for anyone who has this info.

 

[M271]

2 hours ago, Chewy said:

Does anyone have enough inside info to advise on what the issue and anticipated recovery time is for:

Larios

Stewart

Kamaldeen

Doyle

Edwards?

Hear the odd bits when injuries first happen but be good to have an idea in one place. Plus I didn’t even know Doyle was injured until this last week.

Thanks in advance for anyone who has this info.

 

And what’s happened to McCarthy?

[david in sweden]

5 hours ago, M271 said:

And what’s happened to McCarthy?

Don't ask.... out of sight, out of mind. 

[Dark Munster]

9 hours ago, Chewy said:

Does anyone have enough inside info to advise on what the issue and anticipated recovery time is for:

Larios

Stewart

Kamaldeen

Doyle

Edwards?

Hear the odd bits when injuries first happen but be good to have an idea in one place. Plus I didn’t even know Doyle was injured until this last week.

Thanks in advance for anyone who has this info.

 

I heard the 31st of Neverember for Stewart.

[Behind Enemy Lines]

8 hours ago, M271 said:

And what’s happened to McCarthy?

Dropped his car keys at home, not been seen since. 

[Convict Colony]

What is the matter with Larios, i keep forgetting we have him.

He's had more managers than games played.

[gio1saints]

Larios had another setback just as he was reintegrating into training. Not okayed for over a year now and won’t be back until late Jan earliest I understand. Source club website and online snippets. 

[trousers]

13 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

Larios had another setback just as he was reintegrating into training. Not okayed for over a year now and won’t be back until late Jan earliest I understand. Source club website and online snippets. 

Cheers for the update. Do we know if its the same injury that keeps recurring (and if so, what is the nature of the injury?) or has he just been unlucky with back-to-back different injuries? The latest update I could find was back in September, but no details in this one-sentence article: https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/23824221.martin-confirms-injury-setback-sideline-southampton-defender/

Edited 18 December, 2023 by trousers

[SuperSAINT]

https://x.com/alfiehouseecho/status/1738326044703408135?s=46 

[DT]

Absolute joke of a signing. What a waste of money. Signing crocks. Great strategy. 

[SuperSAINT]

Ross Delgado