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17 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I’m not sure any club would be able to handle the bad luck we’ve had with injuries this season. 

Its been difficult, absolutely, but if we had a proper RB and LB backup (like when we had Chambers or Targett, even Cedric as a backup) then it would be so much easier to navigate.

I also think, in fact I know, you will struggle to find another club who only has 3 senior central midfielders in the squad.

We have been unlucky for sure, but alao its exposed the problem of having backup full backs (Vlaery and Vokins) who the manager basically decided, probably correctly, are not viable PL options. Vokins especially should have been loaned out for the season in the summer, with another senior LB brought in to cover and compete with Bertrand.

Brighton for example have had Lamptey miss 15 games and March ruled out for the season, but they have cover for both which is of sufficient quality to enable them to cope, whereas one injury to KWP has basically killed us.

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Never known a season like this. The warnings were there, no pre-season, parts of the training ground locked down. Less contact, less mixing, less staff around.

But to lose the key players at the key times has been devastating. 

Vest, Danny, Kyle, & Oriol, all when on top form.  Is that a exaggeration? Its really not, all four at the time of the injury were playing brilliantly.  Could chuck Diallo in there as well. Feels like a curse. How dare we prioritise the cup. How dare we match up with the big boys in the early part of the season. How dare we.

Well, slap down accepted. I'm ready for this season to end. Dreading Monday now, feel sorry for Ralph having to live this, it must be utterly bewildering. 

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7 minutes ago, LiberalCommunist said:

Never known a season like this. The warnings were there, no pre-season, parts of the training ground locked down. Less contact, less mixing, less staff around.

But to lose the key players at the key times has been devastating. 

Vest, Danny, Kyle, & Oriol, all when on top form.  Is that a exaggeration? Its really not, all four at the time of the injury were playing brilliantly.  Could chuck Diallo in there as well. Feels like a curse. How dare we prioritise the cup. How dare we match up with the big boys in the early part of the season. How dare we.

Well, slap down accepted. I'm ready for this season to end. Dreading Monday now, feel sorry for Ralph having to live this, it must be utterly bewildering. 

Agree it's turning into a nightmare for us. Desperate for Diallo and KWP to get fit and stay fit for the run in. 

With the relaxation of lockdown hopefully that provides an opportunity to get more recovery facilities open at Staplewood and staff to assist. 

Monday is a write off, it's following week at Sheff Utd we need to dig in for the 3 points. 

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12 minutes ago, Pancake said:

Do we have any option on recall for Valery? I know it’s not the in thing to like him, but needs must. Ditto for all other players we have out on loan at the moment. 

"Subject to the proviso that the duration of a Standard Loan must be the time between two Transfer Windows, Standard Loans can be for half a Season or a full Season. Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window. Any other early termination of a Standard Loan must be by way of a mutual agreement in writing (including by way of a recall clause within the Standard Loan Agreement) between both Clubs and the Player but can only be completed after the expiry of 28 days and only during a Transfer Window."

So, no.

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2 hours ago, SNSUN said:

You couldn't make it up. Do we actually have fitness coaches at this club? 🤕

Makes you wonder, doesn't it. Have they been furloughed or what? Do they not realise that flexible furlough is a thing now? 

I've not known our side to be so heavily weakened for such a prolonged period of time. It's amazing that a month after apparently admitting our facilities have been partially closed due to covid, we are still having problems. I wouldn't be surprised that some of our supposedly fit matchday XI players are carrying injuries and trying to cope as best as they can.

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Can anyone give me a genuinely decent reason why we let both back up fullbacks leave.  I know this has been mentioned a few times on here, but for the life of me I cant fathom a reason. Its completely lacking any common sense so maybe some knows for sure why we let this happen. Its just such a Mickey mouse move that I struggle to get my head around.

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12 minutes ago, Hawkswood said:

Can anyone give me a genuinely decent reason why we let both back up fullbacks leave.  I know this has been mentioned a few times on here, but for the life of me I cant fathom a reason. Its completely lacking any common sense so maybe some knows for sure why we let this happen. Its just such a Mickey mouse move that I struggle to get my head around.

Because neither are good enough. Valery is on the bench at Birmingham, and Vokins on the Sunderland bench in league 1.

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9 hours ago, egg said:

Because neither are good enough. Valery is on the bench at Birmingham, and Vokins on the Sunderland bench in league 1.

Yeah, fair enough. I think, certainly in Valerys case though, that some people would rather have him there than a cb out of position. I know JWP can play there but I thought they would have seen our injury list and decided it would be too risky to bank on him playing there.

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On 26/02/2021 at 14:55, Wade Garrett said:

I’m not sure any club would be able to handle the bad luck we’ve had with injuries this season. 

Agreed.  You just have to look at the injuries that Liverpool have faced specifically at CB this season to see how sustained injuries can seriously curtail your expected performances.

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On 26/02/2021 at 14:55, Wade Garrett said:

I’m not sure any club would be able to handle the bad luck we’ve had with injuries this season. 

They would struggle, but the issue goes deeper than that and it's easy to make excuses.

We take the lead, then lose it. We lose a goal, then fall apart. That's down to more than injuries. 

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On 26/02/2021 at 14:55, Wade Garrett said:

I’m not sure any club would be able to handle the bad luck we’ve had with injuries this season. 

Most premier league clubs would not leave themselves with no specialist full back cover (regardless of injuries) though would they?

I get that Valery ain't great but he is a specialist full back and he has played a significant number of PL games. Sorry but I think you can count the number of PL clubs who would have loaned him out with no replacement in the midst of an injury crisis on one finger.

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3 hours ago, Saint Pete said:

Most premier league clubs would not leave themselves with no specialist full back cover (regardless of injuries) though would they?

I get that Valery ain't great but he is a specialist full back and he has played a significant number of PL games. Sorry but I think you can count the number of PL clubs who would have loaned him out with no replacement in the midst of an injury crisis on one finger.

This,that decision is incomprehensible. He had experience, knew the drill and by now would be established in the team. Certainly better than the current shambles.

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