simo Posted 20 July, 2020 Share Posted 20 July, 2020 9 hours ago, Shroppie said: Was it suggested that Ings came off with a groin problem? That's what Solent said , he was holding it before coming off and again afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 21 July, 2020 Share Posted 21 July, 2020 I did wonder during the game about the way ings was moving whether there was something up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 July, 2020 Share Posted 21 July, 2020 To be fair, I'm not surprised if he was feeling a bit stiff. No time in between the games really and he's played them all, even Brighton when we rested loads. Only JWP looks untroubled, but that's because he's not human! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 22 July, 2020 Share Posted 22 July, 2020 Would be a bit of an anticlimax if Danny misses the last game, but no point in taking a risk. The Golden Boot doesn't matter and now that he's off the mark, I'd challenge Che to lead the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 29 July, 2020 Share Posted 29 July, 2020 On 20/07/2020 at 19:01, Matthew Le God said: Hasenhuttl said Djenepo and Boufal were unlikely to play again this season. They haven't been shown in recent training galleries. What's the injury for these two respectively? None of you have suggested it's fake, so assume genuine injuries? I like both players, they're our game changers, but they haven't been available much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 29 July, 2020 Share Posted 29 July, 2020 34 minutes ago, the saint in winchester said: What's the injury for these two respectively? None of you have suggested it's fake, so assume genuine injuries? I like both players, they're our game changers, but they haven't been available much. As far as I can guess, they're both genuine. But I won't be surprised is we don't see Boufal in a Saints shirt again. Djenepo is a work in progress but my guess is he'll be given a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 10 September, 2020 Share Posted 10 September, 2020 (edited) So Armstrong out with a quad injury 😡 Edited 11 September, 2020 by Disco Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 15 September, 2020 Share Posted 15 September, 2020 On 10/09/2020 at 18:04, Disco Stu said: So Armstrong out with a quad injury 😡 At least it's during the transfer window...really we signed Djenepo and Boufal to be first choice wide players but neither have been good enough or consistent enough to be first choice, appreciate Boufal was signed for a different system. I'm sorry but Redmond, Armstrong and Djenepo is not enough depth to last the season IMO. That's not Smallbone's position, especially if we're needing him to attack, and Tella is a gamble given he's an unproven kid. If Boufal goes, we should absolutely be bringing in another player who will push those 3, and cover for injuries, given Armstrong and Djenepo seem to spend quite a lot of time injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 15 September, 2020 Share Posted 15 September, 2020 Was the Bednarek substitution on Saturday tactical? Or did he pick up an injury in the first half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 September, 2020 Share Posted 15 September, 2020 29 minutes ago, igsey said: Was the Bednarek substitution on Saturday tactical? Or did he pick up an injury in the first half? Tactical I think I read. Ralph wanted more diagonal balls played in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 Van Dijke has done his ACL. Wow. Man City win league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 1 hour ago, DT said: Van Dijke has done his ACL. I've seen that rumour, but although Klopp has said it's bad, they haven't had the scan results yet so certainly not confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 4 hours ago, DT said: Van Dijke has done his ACL. Wow. Man City win league. Karma for Van Dick Head - hope he realises he might be one injury from his dream of playing for Barca and goes on strike for a move when he recovers 🤕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 He walked off the pitch barely limping , suggests it wasn't that serious . Bad tackle though although in real time from the ref's angle it didn't look that bad to me. The other angle showed it was reckless to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 4 hours ago, East Kent Saint said: He walked off the pitch barely limping , suggests it wasn't that serious . Bad tackle though although in real time from the ref's angle it didn't look that bad to me. The other angle showed it was reckless to say the least. ACL injuries often take a short while for the pain to occur with swelling, players sometimes will just walk off before they know how serious it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 Valery off injured for B Team earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 VVD now confirmed ACL requiring surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 45 minutes ago, Shroppie said: VVD now confirmed ACL requiring surgery. 👌🏻 worlds smallest violin playing just for Virgil . Wonder if he will take the cash sat in the medical room for 8 months and then go on strike until he can move to Barcelona? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Shroppie said: VVD now confirmed ACL requiring surgery. Vardy revisited. Edited 19 October, 2020 by rooney name incorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 Liverpool's record with VVD playing is 75% win. Without, only 40%. They're not going to retain the title. Hope there are fans back when Pickford next goes to Anfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnia Cherie Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 14 hours ago, Shroppie said: VVD now confirmed ACL requiring surgery. I appreciate that VVD isn't the most popular ex-Saints player but I don't like to see any footballer get a serious injury, particularly from a reckless challenge. He was never going to stay at Southampton long term and very likely has ideas to move from Liverpool for one of the top Euro teams. You can't knock him for having ambitions. This injury may well put paid to that. There is a statistician amongst us, I am sure, who can come up with a long list of good footballers who have never come back from a serious injury to be the player they once were. Southampton's Jay Rodriquez springs to mind for me. Klopp said it would be a challenge to win the Premier League two seasons running. Well, it is now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 4 hours ago, Sarnia Cherie said: I appreciate that VVD isn't the most popular ex-Saints player but I don't like to see any footballer get a serious injury, particularly from a reckless challenge. He was never going to stay at Southampton long term and very likely has ideas to move from Liverpool for one of the top Euro teams. You can't knock him for having ambitions. This injury may well put paid to that. There is a statistician amongst us, I am sure, who can come up with a long list of good footballers who have never come back from a serious injury to be the player they once were. Southampton's Jay Rodriquez springs to mind for me. Klopp said it would be a challenge to win the Premier League two seasons running. Well, it is now. Well said, 'Cherie'. Some comments above are unnecessary and spiteful. Which is also the way I would describe Pickford's assault. I hope VVD can come back from this within a reasonable timeframe. I'll have drop him from my Fantasy team, sadly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 20 October, 2020 Share Posted 20 October, 2020 On 18/10/2020 at 19:43, wild-saint said: 👌🏻 worlds smallest violin playing just for Virgil . Wonder if he will take the cash sat in the medical room for 8 months and then go on strike until he can move to Barcelona? Interesting that God is on his side, at least VVD thinks he is... God works in mysterious ways and certainly did when VVD was here and refused to play - allegedly... That’s how Christians work I suppose... Funny ole world.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 October, 2020 Share Posted 24 October, 2020 On 20/10/2020 at 16:08, captainchris said: Interesting that God is on his side, at least VVD thinks he is... God works in mysterious ways and certainly did when VVD was here and refused to play - allegedly... That’s how Christians work I suppose... Funny ole world.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 October, 2020 Share Posted 24 October, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 25 October, 2020 Share Posted 25 October, 2020 14 hours ago, Turkish said: One of those is quite clearly wrong... Abramovich wasn’t Chelsea owner when they fielded the first foreign XI. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 October, 2020 Share Posted 28 October, 2020 (edited) I spy a Djenepo... Edited 28 October, 2020 by SuperSAINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 29 October, 2020 Share Posted 29 October, 2020 On 25/10/2020 at 13:27, bpsaint said: One of those is quite clearly wrong... Abramovich wasn’t Chelsea owner when they fielded the first foreign XI. Didn't Arsenal do it as well ? poss not first of course . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 Ings didn’t look good. Scan tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintMB Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 The moment we all feared may be here. I hope, for his sake, it's not another big one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 (edited) We all knew this day would come eventually. Its why he plays for Saints and not in the Champions League. Edited 1 November, 2020 by Disco Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 18 minutes ago, Turkish said: Ings didn’t look good. Scan tomorrow. Was seen outside the ground not on crutches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 1 minute ago, stevy777_x said: Was seen outside the ground not on crutches! Means very little. VVD walked off the pitch with his ACL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 Ralph said when he saw the tackle on Danny, it didn't look good, but he's hopeful it's not too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 I'm more worried about Bertie. We've got zero cover at FB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 1 minute ago, Dusic said: Means very little. VVD walked off the pitch with his ACL. I’d have thought if there was any suspicion of ACL injuries, he’d be told at the very least to keep the weight off it. I wasn’t watching, did he receive any kind of kick when he went down or was it a twist/fall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 1 minute ago, Shroppie said: I'm more worried about Bertie. We've got zero cover at FB. I'm more worried about Ings. Vokins hasn't done much wrong in his couple of opportunities, clearly a downgrade on Bertie but anyone would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: I’d have thought if there was any suspicion of ACL injuries, he’d be told at the very least to keep the weight off it. I wasn’t watching, did he receive any kind of kick when he went down or was it a twist/fall? He was kicked below the knee, on the shin. As he fell, his knee over-bent - he sort of sat on his heel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dusic said: This Twitter account describes itself as speculative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/18838446.hasenhuttl-left-sweating-ings-knee-injury/ Hasenhuttl’s full quotes not quite as bleak, but obviously we’re going to be waiting on the scan to see how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jimmy_D said: https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/18838446.hasenhuttl-left-sweating-ings-knee-injury/ Hasenhuttl’s full quotes not quite as bleak, but obviously we’re going to be waiting on the scan to see how it is. The important bit is that he has no swelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 Just now, stevy777_x said: The important bit is that he has no swelling. Indeed, that is a positive, but unfortunately ‘tis not a guarantee that it’s not serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 16 minutes ago, stevy777_x said: The important bit is that he has no swelling. Van Dijk didn't have swelling and is likely out for the season so I wouldn't say that. Just got to look at Ralph's reaction at the time and his face in the interview, can tell he fears the worst. At least the international break is coming up, we'll miss Bertrand, Ings and Bednarek next week though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 It's very difficult to say, the worry is that the knee is a genuine weak spot for ings - it always will be, any impact or incorrect movement in that area is going to be a huge concern for everyone. It's been my biggest fear to be honest, for his sake and our teams sake he needs to be fine - couple of weeks max I hope, that's prob the best case. I just hope the club don't play cloak and daggers with this one and they tell us from the outset the state of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/18838514.hasenhuttl-issues-injury-updates-bednarek-bertrand/ Hamstring issue for Bertrand, headache (so possible concussion) for Bednarek. Nothing on severity/timescale yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 2 hours ago, Shroppie said: I'm more worried about Bertie. We've got zero cover at FB. Yeah much more worrying that a first choice full back might be out than our only reliable source of goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jimmy_D said: https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/18838514.hasenhuttl-issues-injury-updates-bednarek-bertrand/ Hamstring issue for Bertrand, headache (so possible concussion) for Bednarek. Nothing on severity/timescale yet. That's Bertrand out until at least the other side of the international break probably then. Vokins is the logical option, although KWP moving over and Valery coming in is another option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 43 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I just hope the club don't play cloak and daggers with this one and they tell us from the outset the state of play. Good luck with that wish...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 16 minutes ago, stknowle said: Yeah much more worrying that a first choice full back might be out than our only reliable source of goals. I think I agree with the OP. Losing Ings would be serious (very), but Saints do have cover there. Adams Walcott and two keen youngsters is reasonable cover. Long is a support player rather than a goal scorer, but adds to the dimension. In comparison cover for Bertie is Vokins. We all have high hopes for him but Bruce will be targeting that area on Friday. Its the one area that Saints don't have cover.... blast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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