SuperSAINT Posted 26 January, 2017 Posted 26 January, 2017 Might be why we're supposedly hurrying up after Gabbiadini? And linked with Mariano Diaz now too? Did Prowsey go off injured as well last night? Believe so. Really hope Jay is ok. He's been slowly getting back to form.
Saint_clark Posted 26 January, 2017 Posted 26 January, 2017 Believe so. Really hope Jay is ok. He's been slowly getting back to form. Yeah...if he's out for another month or more now we're going to have to seriously consider whether keeping him next summer is viable. He's been fantastic recently, but can we afford to carry someone who can spend more than half the season out injured?
VectisSaint Posted 26 January, 2017 Posted 26 January, 2017 Might be why we're supposedly hurrying up after Gabbiadini? And linked with Mariano Diaz now too? Did Prowsey go off injured as well last night? May have been a bad night for injuries, JRod, JWP and possibly Maya Yoshida.
Pass the Dutchie Posted 26 January, 2017 Posted 26 January, 2017 Sadly VVD doesn't look like kicking a ball anytime soon:
marc_saint Posted 26 January, 2017 Posted 26 January, 2017 That boot was precautionary as he left the stadium on Sunday
Dark Munster Posted 26 January, 2017 Posted 26 January, 2017 http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php#c3 This is getting bloody ridiculuous.
SuperSAINT Posted 26 January, 2017 Posted 26 January, 2017 May have been a bad night for injuries, JRod, JWP and possibly Maya Yoshida. If Yoshida is out, you know sh*t is getting real when Gardos is back in the frame.
Pass the Dutchie Posted 27 January, 2017 Posted 27 January, 2017 http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php#c3 This is getting bloody ridiculuous. It's interesting to see that in general the top teams have the fewest injuries. I know there's bad luck (like VVD), but I wonder if they're doing something differently, and what.
maysie Posted 27 January, 2017 Posted 27 January, 2017 It's interesting to see that in general the top teams have the fewest injuries. I know there's bad luck (like VVD), but I wonder if they're doing something differently, and what. Bigger, stronger squads, so don't have to rush players back as much?
Give it to Ron Posted 27 January, 2017 Posted 27 January, 2017 JWP was having x-rays yesterday so he must be a doubt for tomorrow.
SuperSAINT Posted 27 January, 2017 Posted 27 January, 2017 JWP was having x-rays yesterday so he must be a doubt for tomorrow. Crikey, that's not so good.
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 27 January, 2017 Posted 27 January, 2017 http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php#c3 This is getting bloody ridiculuous. 9? That's nearly a whole team: GK: McCarthy LB: Targett CD: Virgil CD: RB: Pied MD: Hesketh MD: Ward-Prowse MD: AM: Boufal LF: Rodriguez RF: Austin The injuries have the makings of a decent side! Shame Gardos is back from injury as he's ruined the physio room back 4...
Dark Munster Posted 27 January, 2017 Posted 27 January, 2017 It's interesting to see that in general the top teams have the fewest injuries. I know there's bad luck (like VVD), but I wonder if they're doing something differently, and what. We need to do what Leicester are doing (except stomping on opponents ankles - well, Vardy maybe). Nigel Pearson got something set up there that is working incredibly.
Dark Munster Posted 27 January, 2017 Posted 27 January, 2017 http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36189778
hutch Posted 27 January, 2017 Posted 27 January, 2017 We need to do what Leicester are doing (except stomping on opponents ankles - well, Vardy maybe). Nigel Pearson got something set up there that is working incredibly. Does it involve Thai hookers? I could be interested.
Dark Munster Posted 27 January, 2017 Posted 27 January, 2017 Does it involve Thai hookers? I could be interested. Not sure, but whatever works let's do it.
Dr. Kucho Posted 27 January, 2017 Posted 27 January, 2017 We need to do what Leicester are doing (except stomping on opponents ankles - well, Vardy maybe). Nigel Pearson got something set up there that is working incredibly. Good strength coaches, kinesiologists, physical therapists, nutritionists etc. Have the players spend half of the week on the pitch and the other half in the gym and recovery rooms.
5string Posted 27 January, 2017 Posted 27 January, 2017 Interesting to note how many of our former players are also on the injury list at their respective clubs: Lallana Clyne Chambers Gaston Alderweireld No mention of Shaw, but I imagine he's not up to full fitness yet?
AK Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 VVD spotted just now at Southampton airport hobbling pretty badly on crutches- maybe off for an op ?
Whitey Grandad Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 VVD spotted just now at Southampton airport hobbling pretty badly on crutches- maybe off for an op ? Flying lessons.
AK Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 Flying lessons. Could be- he was getting onto a private plane !
eurosaint Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 (edited) TBF our medical facilities are as good as anybodies and we have topped the injury free charts in the past so I would put our current crisis down to 2 things : 1. Bad luck ! 2. 10 games in a month (maybe) ! Edited 30 January, 2017 by eurosaint
100%Red&White Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 VVD spotted just now at Southampton airport hobbling pretty badly on crutches- maybe off........? Probably not but I'm bracing myself for a bit of bad news in the next couple of days.
SuperSAINT Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 BBC Solent Sport @solentsport #Saintsfc defender Virgil Van Dijk set to be out for "at least a few weeks" according to boss Claude Puel
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 BBC Solent Sport @solentsport #Saintsfc defender Virgil Van Dijk set to be out for "at least a few weeks" according to boss Claude Puel So not a few months
The Cat Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 Fingers crossed he makes it back for the final.
tajjuk Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 It's interesting to see that in general the top teams have the fewest injuries. I know there's bad luck (like VVD), but I wonder if they're doing something differently, and what. That's at the moment, the big teams have had just as bad injury problems. In recent years Utd despite a vast squad had virtually no defenders for some games and Arsenal always have shed loads of injuries. It's just bad luck generally.
angelman Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 So not a few months How many is a few weeks? 2 or 3 or 12?
SuperSAINT Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 How many is a few weeks? 2 or 3 or 12? I would say they don't really know yet. Lets assume 3 months and be happy if it's less.
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 How many is a few weeks? 2 or 3 or 12? 3 in my book
Nordic Saint Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 TBF our medical facilities are as good as anybodies and we have topped the injury free charts in the past so I would put our current crisis down to 2 things : 1. Bad luck ! 2. 10 games in a month (maybe) ! 3. Buying injury-prone players We buy injury-prone and unfit players because they are cheap. The big clubs don't need to do that. Austin's knee issues were well-publicised before we bought him, Boufal and Clasie were unfit to play when we bought them and now we are being linked with Gabbiadini who has an awful injury record, known issues with ankle problems and muscle fatigue, and who has only managed to play 2 full 90 minute Serie A games in the last 2 years. Sometimes it pays off and you get a bargain. You could certainly argue that Austin's goals when he is available to play mean the risk was worth it. If you want to reduce injuries, you buy players who have played 90 minute games regularly without injury or fitness issues. Of course, you still can't do much about bad luck like Vardy's stamp on van Dijk's foot.
iansums Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 Puel said: “We know Virgil van Dijk will stay weeks out of the team and it’s important to find a good balance without him for three weeks".
DuncanRG Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 Puel said three, according to the quotes on the OS. Let's hope that remains the schedule
James Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 Hopefully that means he will be fit for Wembley. What a huge boost that would be.
pangy Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 Saints in not telling anyone about the extent of players injury shocker. Does anyone even know what happened to McCarthy
derry Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 (edited) Just heard Puel on Sky and to say he said three weeks would need digital interpretation it sounded more like few than three. I see the OS said three but he mumbles and it could have been anything. Edited 30 January, 2017 by derry
James Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 Just heard Puel on Sky and to say he said three weeks would need digital interpretation it sounded more like few than three. I see the OS said three but he mumbles and it could have been anything. Doubt we'd put it on the website if it wasn't true.
Whitey Grandad Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 Just heard Puel on Sky and to say he said three weeks would need digital interpretation it sounded more like few than three. I see the OS said three but he mumbles and it could have been anything. It's 12 days to the Sunderland game and I'd think he was unlikekly to make that. The final is just under 4 weeks away so let's hope it is 3 weeks and not 5
Chez Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 (edited) 3. Buying injury-prone players We buy injury-prone and unfit players because they are cheap. The big clubs don't need to do that. Austin's knee issues were well-publicised before we bought him, Boufal and Clasie were unfit to play when we bought them and now we are being linked with Gabbiadini who has an awful injury record, known issues with ankle problems and muscle fatigue, and who has only managed to play 2 full 90 minute Serie A games in the last 2 years. Sometimes it pays off and you get a bargain. You could certainly argue that Austin's goals when he is available to play mean the risk was worth it. If you want to reduce injuries, you buy players who have played 90 minute games regularly without injury or fitness issues. Of course, you still can't do much about bad luck like Vardy's stamp on van Dijk's foot. Good point. Although largely down to bad luck, we have brought a little on ourselves. Austin was a very, very strange signing in my book. The fee might not have been big, but the wage certainly will be. I don't know who pushed that transfer through, but it must have caused a few ripples. I wonder if it was RK? If the decision wasn't universally supported, when he got injured soon after joining, there must have been some tension created there. You have to question the Boufal move a little as well. Making an injured player your record signing is bold to say the least. Perhaps its easy to say why not wait and sign him in January as you may lose out, the selling club may only want to sell in the summer or the price may go up, but do you really break your transfer record on someone that won't play for a while. Its tough to move clubs and move abroad, but to then have to start your Saints career from the injury table must have been very difficult. I forgot about Classie being injured. I can't believe we signed him, never mind signed him injured. In his case was he really the only/best choice out there. RK or whoever must have thought he was worth the wait. They were wrong. You could also point to offering JRod a five year deal before he had even started making his way back from his serious injury. Very brave decision that hasn't worked out yet, although could the club really risk him leaving on a free? They have paid him handsomely for very little return, hoping that he will come good and that investment would pay off. It hasn't yet, but if the WBA £15m move is even remotely true then it would have been the right decision. We will see. Returning to your point, we say our transfer dealings involve extremely comprehensive research about character etc., yet we do seem to overlook the obvious - are they fit? There will be counter arguments I am sure, but availability is the best type of ability. Edited 30 January, 2017 by Chez
eurosaint Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 3. Buying injury-prone players We buy injury-prone and unfit players because they are cheap. The big clubs don't need to do that. Austin's knee issues were well-publicised before we bought him, Boufal and Clasie were unfit to play when we bought them and now we are being linked with Gabbiadini who has an awful injury record, known issues with ankle problems and muscle fatigue, and who has only managed to play 2 full 90 minute Serie A games in the last 2 years. Sometimes it pays off and you get a bargain. You could certainly argue that Austin's goals when he is available to play mean the risk was worth it. If you want to reduce injuries, you buy players who have played 90 minute games regularly without injury or fitness issues. Of course, you still can't do much about bad luck like Vardy's stamp on van Dijk's foot. You could be right but I guess the counter argument is that players like JWP, Targett & Hesketh are all youth products. Jrod, Yoshida, McCarthy & Pied had no real injury history before signing and VVD was the victim of a bad tackle ! I still reckon that bad luck is the overriding factor!
Dark Munster Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 Luck certainly plays a part, but I think we're well behind Leicester in the sports science/injury prevention department. As I keep saying, bring in Nasty Nigel to set up something similar here.
SuperSAINT Posted 30 January, 2017 Posted 30 January, 2017 Seager starts for U23's tonight. Olomola & Barnes both on bench, so striker injury crisis has subsided.
shurlock Posted 7 February, 2017 Posted 7 February, 2017 Any updates on Boufal? Going to miss the final according to the UI.
JRM Posted 7 February, 2017 Posted 7 February, 2017 Going to miss the final according to the UI. If that is the case his stop start season can be filed under disappointment along with many other of our bigger money signings , hopefully he can manage a prolonged spell in the side at some point.
Window Cleaner Posted 7 February, 2017 Posted 7 February, 2017 Going to miss the final according to the UI. What's up with him this time?
Wimborne_saint Posted 7 February, 2017 Posted 7 February, 2017 What's up with him this time? Ligament and soft tissue damage, not bone (According to the guy on the UI)
LGTL Posted 7 February, 2017 Posted 7 February, 2017 Any update on Austin? He appears to have just left professional football to become a horse race owner if his Twitter is anything to go by.
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 9 February, 2017 Posted 9 February, 2017 Any update on Austin? He appears to have just left professional football to become a horse race owner if his Twitter is anything to go by. Might as well add Cacares to the list now, and save time. Perhaps Les Reed's next project should be to run a Dolls' Hospital. Irony or Truth?
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 9 February, 2017 Posted 9 February, 2017 Any update on Austin? He appears to have just left professional football to become a horse race owner if his Twitter is anything to go by. How is he using Twitter? Surely both his thumbs must be on the injury list?
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