Injury Watch

[goodymatt]

 

[beatlesaint]

  On 28/01/2025 at 15:17, goodymatt said:

 

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Just gets better and better doesn’t it? 🤦‍♂️

[S-Clarke]

We all know Jack is pretty limited and he really should have been replaced, but I don't like reading the personal vitriol and hate he gets all over social media to be honest. He's an honest lad and clearly cares about the club, he's not a Sulemana waiting for the next exit.

Yeah for sure he's not going to be taking us to the next level, but I think he deserves a bit more respect from the fanbase than he gets. The very least you want is someone who cares, and he does.

Edited January 28 by S-Clarke

[beatlesaint]

  On 28/01/2025 at 16:06, S-Clarke said:

We all know Jack is pretty limited and he really should have been replaced, but I don't like reading the personal vitriol and hate he gets all over social media to be honest. He's an honest lad and clearly cares about the club, he's not a Sulemana waiting for the next exit.

Yeah for sure he's not going to be taking us to the next level, but I think he deserves a bit more respect from the fanbase than he gets. The very least you want is someone who cares, and he does.

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He didn’t care enough to apologise for getting sent off for pulling someone’s hair though did he? 
As club captain that should have been a given.

[hypochondriac]

  On 28/01/2025 at 16:06, S-Clarke said:

We all know Jack is pretty limited and he really should have been replaced, but I don't like reading the personal vitriol and hate he gets all over social media to be honest. He's an honest lad and clearly cares about the club, he's not a Sulemana waiting for the next exit.

Yeah for sure he's not going to be taking us to the next level, but I think he deserves a bit more respect from the fanbase than he gets. The very least you want is someone who cares, and he does.

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Be brought it on himself with his brain dead actions getting himself sent off in games when he's supposed to be setting an example. 

[goodymatt]

 

[the saint in winchester]

  On 30/01/2025 at 22:31, goodymatt said:

 

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Don't worry, he is due back in a couple of weeks.   Which two weeks, starting from when, remains to be seen.

[Wade Garrett]

  On 30/01/2025 at 22:31, goodymatt said:

 

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He’s done more work with medical staff than Florence Nightingale.

[Dark Munster]

So he has a new part time job working with the medical staff. Makes sense I suppose, he has plenty of experience and although he probably doesn’t need the money it does keep him busy. 

[Matthew Le God]

Stewart and Larios playing for the under 21s today...

 

 

[trousers]

[Chez]

  On 21/02/2025 at 11:36, Matthew Le God said:

Stewart and Larios playing for the under 21s today...

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Do you know if they both finish the game MLG unscathed?
They both may never play for the first team again, who knows? But if they are fit, there is at least an opportunity to loan or sell them. 

[leesaint88]

  On 27/02/2025 at 12:12, Chez said:

Do you know if they both finish the game MLG unscathed?
They both may never play for the first team again, who knows? But if they are fit, there is at least an opportunity to loan or sell them. 

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Both went off at half time, Stewart didn't achieve much but Larios looked reasonably lively.

If you look at potential loans and futures for them, Larios in particular might have something going for him especially with the rumblings of Sevilla looking at a possible move. Stewart, who knows, I wouldn't be surprised if 12 months down the line he announces his retirement. 

[disconnect]

Larios played another 65 mins on Fri night so that's at least promising. Stewart nowhere to be seen. 🙄

[Saint Fan CaM]

  On 03/03/2025 at 14:27, disconnect said:

Larios played another 65 mins on Fri night so that's at least promising. Stewart nowhere to be seen. 🙄

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He’s got immediate promotion to the first team. Rumour has it Juric is playing him at centre back.

[BERMUDASAINT]

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc/ex-sunderland-man-ross-stewart-suffers-fresh-injury-set-back-after-ps10m-transfer-to-southampton-5043104

[S-Clarke]

Someone needs to tell him to retire for his own benefit. He needs a new career as football isn't for him anymore. I feel sorry for him, but someone close has got to be honest with him now.

[Gloucester Saint]

  On 22/03/2025 at 10:24, S-Clarke said:

Someone needs to tell him to retire for his own benefit. He needs a new career as football isn't for him anymore. I feel sorry for him, but someone close has got to be honest with him now.

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Club needs to be ruthless - terminate final year through frustration or offer him a % of wages at Champ level to start-up post-football career. 

[ApprenticeBillionaire]

  On 22/03/2025 at 10:24, S-Clarke said:

Someone needs to tell him to retire for his own benefit. He needs a new career as football isn't for him anymore. I feel sorry for him, but someone close has got to be honest with him now.

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We should honestly just wipe our mouths and move the fuck on at this point.

There's no room for sentiment here.

This has been a fucking dumpster fire of a signing. The worst signing we've ever made. Ever. 

Has there ever been a worse one?

Don't say Carrillo, he at least contributed *something*.

This guy can't even last 20 minutes of reserve team game.

Would the club even be insured for him at this point?...

 

[Lighthouse]

  On 22/03/2025 at 12:47, Gloucester Saint said:

Club needs to be ruthless - terminate final year through frustration or offer him a % of wages at Champ level to start-up post-football career. 

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Why though, how does that benefit either party in any way? He’ll most likely see out the rest of his contract here trying to get fit again and retire at the end of next season when we release him.

[badgerx16]

Why can't we just pay him Statutory Sick Pay ?

[ApprenticeBillionaire]

  On 27/03/2025 at 10:44, Lighthouse said:

Why though, how does that benefit either party in any way? He’ll most likely see out the rest of his contract here trying to get fit again and retire at the end of next season when we release him.

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The benefit is *NOT* continuing to pay monstrous wages to a player that isn't going to ever play for us in any meaningful way.

I thought that benefit was quite fucking obvious tbh.

[Lighthouse]

  On 27/03/2025 at 11:42, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

The benefit is *NOT* continuing to pay monstrous wages to a player that isn't going to ever play for us in any meaningful way.

I thought that benefit was quite fucking obvious tbh.

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I’d say the only thing that is ‘quite fucking obvious’ is that Ross Stewart is not going to just write off the last year of his wages, or even a portion thereof, for no reason.

[trousers]

Anyone know what career the doctor who conducted Stewart's medical went into after, one assumes, he was struck off by the General Medical Council...?

[suewhistle]

  On 27/03/2025 at 15:40, trousers said:

Anyone know what career the doctor who conducted Stewart's medical went into after, one assumes, he was struck off by the General Medical Council...?

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Bit of an assumption that, Trousers?

You're assuming that the advice he gave was accepted by the club..

 

[Lighthouse]

  On 27/03/2025 at 15:57, suewhistle said:

Bit of an assumption that, Trousers?

You're assuming that the advice he gave was accepted by the club..

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With a player like that, I think we always knew it was high risk - high reward, this time it just didn’t pay off. We basically did the same thing with Danny Ings and that did pay dividends. Win some - lose some, I guess.

[suewhistle]

Bloomin' 'eck, I've just seen a picture of the man himself in the latest training gallery on the OS. He was, gulp, stretching for a ball..

[ApprenticeBillionaire]

  On 27/03/2025 at 15:32, Lighthouse said:

I’d say the only thing that is ‘quite fucking obvious’ is that Ross Stewart is not going to just write off the last year of his wages, or even a portion thereof, for no reason.

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Well there is a reason... You can't play a match.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

  On 27/03/2025 at 16:43, Lighthouse said:

With a player like that, I think we always knew it was high risk - high reward, this time it just didn’t pay off. We basically did the same thing with Danny Ings and that did pay dividends. Win some - lose some, I guess.

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Pretty sure Ings wasn't injured when we signed him

[Lighthouse]

  On 27/03/2025 at 19:29, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Pretty sure Ings wasn't injured when we signed him

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He started 8 games in all comps for Liverpool across three seasons, only made 25 appearances in total and a lot of them were ten minute subs. There were serious doubts over his fitness, which he still struggled with in his first season with us.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

  On 27/03/2025 at 21:25, Lighthouse said:

He started 8 games in all comps for Liverpool across three seasons, only made 25 appearances in total and a lot of them were ten minute subs. There were serious doubts over his fitness, which he still struggled with in his first season with us.

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Yeah, but he wasn't injured when he signed for us. Keep going fella

[Lighthouse]

  On 27/03/2025 at 22:50, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Yeah, but he wasn't injured when he signed for us. Keep going fella

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Ings had some persistent serious injury and fitness related problems in the years leading up to us signing him. Why anyone would pretend not to understand that I can’t fathom.

[VectisSaint]

  On 27/03/2025 at 17:21, suewhistle said:

Bloomin' 'eck, I've just seen a picture of the man himself in the latest training gallery on the OS. He was, gulp, stretching for a ball..

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That's him out again for a while then, at least another 2 weeks.

[ApprenticeBillionaire]

  On 28/03/2025 at 08:28, Lighthouse said:

Ings had some persistent serious injury and fitness related problems in the years leading up to us signing him. Why anyone would pretend not to understand that I can’t fathom.

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When we signed him, Klopp said he'd been fit for quite some time but he couldn't offer him game time.

Ross Stewart was virtually on crutches when we signed him for £10M fucking quid.

Big difference.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

  On 28/03/2025 at 08:28, Lighthouse said:

Ings had some persistent serious injury and fitness related problems in the years leading up to us signing him. Why anyone would pretend not to understand that I can’t fathom.

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Seriously? Stewart wasn't even able to kick a ball let alone actually get onto a football pitch. Not pretending to fathom anything. He wasn't injured when we signed him, Stewart was. What are you failing to understand about that?

[Holmes_and_Watson]

  On 27/03/2025 at 17:21, suewhistle said:

Bloomin' 'eck, I've just seen a picture of the man himself in the latest training gallery on the OS. He was, gulp, stretching for a ball..

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The irony of Stewart doing that unscathed, and the rest of us picking up injuries from fainting. 🙂

[gio1saints]

Looks like we will need a new gk for next season or back to AM and JL….. Hoping Gavs injury is not a career threatening one if it’s an ACL …

[Holmes_and_Watson]

  On 20/04/2025 at 15:50, gio1saints said:

Looks like we will need a new gk for next season or back to AM and JL….. Hoping Gavs injury is not a career threatening one if it’s an ACL …

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Is it worse than the "SAINTS are set to assess a fresh injury concern picked up by Gavin Bazunu on loan, but interim boss Simon Rusk believes it is not serious," I saw earlier Gio?

[Gloucester Saint]

  On 20/04/2025 at 18:07, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Is it worse than the "SAINTS are set to assess a fresh injury concern picked up by Gavin Bazunu on loan, but interim boss Simon Rusk believes it is not serious," I saw earlier Gio?

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https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/25103367.southampton-assess-fresh-gavin-bazunu-injury-concern/

The biggest threat to Gavin’s career is not injury but those statistics again - 8 matches for one of Belgium’s biggest teams, 15 conceded and only one clean sheet. I thought he might be back up next season to a new first choice but a loan out to League 1 or League 2 seems far more likely. 

Edited April 21 by Gloucester Saint

[Holmes_and_Watson]

  On 21/04/2025 at 21:03, Gloucester Saint said:

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/25103367.southampton-assess-fresh-gavin-bazunu-injury-concern/

The biggest threat to Gavin’s career is not injury but those statistics again - 8 matches for one of Belgium’s biggest teams, 15 conceded and only one clean sheet. I thought he might be back up next season to a new first choice but a loan out to League 1 or League 2 seems far more likely. 

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If Martin would take one of those job offers, then Baz can go there.

[Gloucester Saint]

  On 21/04/2025 at 21:29, Holmes_and_Watson said:

If Martin would take one of those job offers, then Baz can go there.

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Norwich are nosediving almost as badly as Sheff Weds - Angus Gunn not offered a new contract according to their forum. Thorup their Danish possession-focused manager very unpopular with their fans. But parachute payments running out and Leicester/Rangers potentially more attractive to Russell even given the emotional ties to Norwich.

Even if Martin doesn’t go there, although I have a feeling that he might, that would be a very good loan move for Baz to a decent sized club. He’d have to perform a million times better than he has for us, Standard or even Pompey though. 

Possible he could compete with one of Leicester’s remaining keepers (IIRC Danny Ward is out of contract) if Martin goes there (Rudkin and their owner like Russell apparently) or Rangers could be another good move.

Gavin needs to move on though from Saints regardless of Russell Martin’s destination this summer and make a clean start (maybe even the odd clean sheet).