Roger Posted 29 August, 2015 Share Posted 29 August, 2015 Pretty important to us I think? Anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 29 August, 2015 Share Posted 29 August, 2015 Think they're expecting to be in the mix for the WBA game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 August, 2015 Share Posted 29 August, 2015 Pretty important to us I think? Anyone know? Last update was "after the international break" but getting less and less likely, no sign of either in any training pictures, so they are not really close yet, with 2 weeks left before WBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 29 August, 2015 Share Posted 29 August, 2015 http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php Suggests Sept 12th for both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 29 August, 2015 Share Posted 29 August, 2015 Last update was "after the international break" but getting less and less likely, no sign of either in any training pictures, so they are not really close yet, with 2 weeks left before WBA. The fact they aren't in training pictures doesn't mean they won't be back in two weeks time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 29 August, 2015 Share Posted 29 August, 2015 At the home leg of midjitland Clasie was wearing a protective boot like koemans, so not sure what he has done Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 29 August, 2015 Share Posted 29 August, 2015 At the home leg of midjitland Clasie was wearing a protective boot like koemans, so not sure what he has done Ankle ligaments wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 29 August, 2015 Share Posted 29 August, 2015 Clasie? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 August, 2015 Share Posted 29 August, 2015 The fact they aren't in training pictures doesn't mean they won't be back in two weeks time... Well **** me, thanks for stating the bleeding obvious. It is a possible indicator rhough that they have not started training with the squad yet. Players don't suddenly get well and fit Jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 29 August, 2015 Share Posted 29 August, 2015 Well **** me, thanks for stating the bleeding obvious. It is a possible indicator rhough that they have not started training with the squad yet. Players don't suddenly get well and fit Jeez. Highly unlikely if you think that Bertrand and Clasie will be back playing for any real length of time in less than 2 weeks. Its not like they've had a pre-season or anything is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 29 August, 2015 Share Posted 29 August, 2015 to be fair id play bertrand wearing two protective boots over targett. probably quicker. MT runs like je is towing a caravan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 31 August, 2015 Share Posted 31 August, 2015 Clasie out for a bit longer than expected according to Mikos Gouka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 31 August, 2015 Share Posted 31 August, 2015 Feel for him. Less than ideal start for a new team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 31 August, 2015 Share Posted 31 August, 2015 Clasie out for a bit longer than expected according to Mikos Gouka. Ah bless, the next "Gaston" just for Alps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 31 August, 2015 Share Posted 31 August, 2015 Feel for him. Less than ideal start for a new team. He'll be like having a new signing when he comes back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RinNY Posted 31 August, 2015 Share Posted 31 August, 2015 to be fair id play bertrand wearing two protective boots over targett. probably quicker. MT runs like je is towing a caravan. Targett may lack (at present; only 19 remember) Bertrand's attacking flair, but defensively he's very sound. Had Redmond in his pocket the whole game against Norwich, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintoaks Posted 1 September, 2015 Share Posted 1 September, 2015 to be fair id play bertrand wearing two protective boots over targett. probably quicker. MT runs like je is towing a caravan. Another one jumping on the bandwagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 1 September, 2015 Share Posted 1 September, 2015 Ah bless, the next "Gaston" just for Alps No doubt he is thinking up a comical name right now for Clasie just as he did with "Gashton." My money is on No Classie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 1 September, 2015 Share Posted 1 September, 2015 I said at the time that his knee buckled and it would be ligament damage - hope it isn't too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 September, 2015 Share Posted 1 September, 2015 No doubt he is thinking up a comical name right now for Clasie just as he did with "Gashton." My money is on No Classie. Clarsie would be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 1 September, 2015 Share Posted 1 September, 2015 Clasie would be a very influential player if he did not spend so much time in the treatment room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintTex Posted 2 September, 2015 Share Posted 2 September, 2015 Bertrand's injury is very frustrating. May 24th - season ends (5 weeks pass) June 26th - he has surgery (10 days pass) July 6th - Surgery news revealed. Koeman publically says he is out 5 to 6 weeks (6 weeks pass) August 15th - play Everton (4 weeks pass) Sept 12th - W. Brom. He has now missed 8 competitive games. No sign of him in training. What are we looking at here? I am not feeling confident he sees the pitch until mid October. I hope I am wrong. Also, when did the club and Bertrand know surgery was needed? Could it have been done sooner after the end of last season instead of waiting 5 weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 3 September, 2015 Share Posted 3 September, 2015 I see Forster is tweeting about missing playing. Anyone know when he is back? From what I have seen of Stek I don't think we need to rush him back but have the luxury of letting him recover properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 3 September, 2015 Share Posted 3 September, 2015 I see Forster is tweeting about missing playing. Anyone know when he is back? From what I have seen of Stek I don't think we need to rush him back but have the luxury of letting him recover properly. I thought he'd been ruled out for pretty much the whole season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 3 September, 2015 Share Posted 3 September, 2015 Koeman publically says he is out 5 to 6 weeks I think it was more a 5 - 6 weeks before he's back in training, being match fit obviously quiet a bit longer Could it have been done sooner after the end of last season instead of waiting 5 weeks? Normally it's a case of waiting to see how it reacts with rest, if it doesn't heal as expected then it's surgery. I'm sure surgery was the last resort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 3 September, 2015 Share Posted 3 September, 2015 i'd be surprised to see Bertrand back this side of Christmas. remember he has no pre season. It will take him quite a while to build the physical fitness and then he will need games under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 3 September, 2015 Share Posted 3 September, 2015 i'd be surprised to see Bertrand back this side of Christmas. remember he has no pre season. It will take him quite a while to build the physical fitness and then he will need games under his belt. That is a very pessimistic view. Back before the end of the month I'd say, presuming there haven't been any set backs with his operation and recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 3 September, 2015 Share Posted 3 September, 2015 Bertrand's injury is very frustrating. May 24th - season ends (5 weeks pass) June 26th - he has surgery (10 days pass) July 6th - Surgery news revealed. Koeman publically says he is out 5 to 6 weeks (6 weeks pass) August 15th - play Everton (4 weeks pass) Sept 12th - W. Brom. He has now missed 8 competitive games. No sign of him in training. What are we looking at here? I am not feeling confident he sees the pitch until mid October. I hope I am wrong. Also, when did the club and Bertrand know surgery was needed? Could it have been done sooner after the end of last season instead of waiting 5 weeks? do you not think the club has people who know exactly what needs to be done taking into consideration all the medical information currently available? ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 3 September, 2015 Share Posted 3 September, 2015 i'd be surprised to see Bertrand back this side of Christmas. remember he has no pre season. It will take him quite a while to build the physical fitness and then he will need games under his belt. I would say mid October, all being well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 8 September, 2015 Share Posted 8 September, 2015 anyone ITK have any updates on Bertrand and Clasie???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 8 September, 2015 Share Posted 8 September, 2015 Both Clasie and Bertrand are worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 September, 2015 Share Posted 8 September, 2015 Both Clasie and Bertrand are worrying. What are Clasie and Bertand worrying about? What to have for dinner tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 September, 2015 Share Posted 8 September, 2015 anyone ITK have any updates on Bertrand and Clasie???? Neither involved in today's friendly vs Oxford... http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20150908-report-southampton-2-1-oxford-united-2676578.aspx Southampton beat Oxford United 2-1 in a behind-closed-doors friendly at the Staplewood Campus on Tuesday afternoon. Ronald Koeman handed starts to a number of his players who have not been away on international duty over the past week, with Jay Rodriguez, Juanmi and Oriol Romeu all featuring. New signing Virgil van Dijk made his first appearance in a Saints shirt at the heart of the defence alongside fellow summer recruit Steven Caulker. Ryan Seager, who has missed the start of the season through injury, started in attack for Saints and almost opened the scoring early on as he hit the crossbar from the edge of the box with a lobbed effort. Saints were awarded a penalty soon after following a foul on Sam McQueen, and although Rodriguez saw his spot-kick saved, the striker tapped home the rebound to open the scoring. Despite Saints’ dominance, they were pegged back seven minutes later as Davis failed to keep out Josh Ruffels’s low drive from the edge of the box following a good team move from the visitors. Just a minute later though, Saints regained their lead. Rodriguez played in Juanmi who, with the aid of a deflection, saw his strike loop over the goalkeeper and into the empty net. The Spaniard almost grabbed a second just before half time after good work between Seager and Rodriguez, but his effort flew just over the top of the crossbar. Juanmi had an effort well saved in the second half, while Davis made an excellent stop at the other end to preserve the lead for Saints as it finished 2-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 Koeman said today Bertrand is back in normal training next Monday, Clasie will be a little longer. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20150910-team-news-west-bromwich-albion-southampton-2679716.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 Koeman said today Bertrand is back in normal training next Monday, Clasie will be a little longer. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20150910-team-news-west-bromwich-albion-southampton-2679716.aspx Would be interested to learn more on the Bertand issue. The operation was on both knees I think? And it was done in the middle of the summer. If I was going to wildly speculate I would suggest Bertrand could have been a naughty boy during the summer and did something he shouldn't have and got hurt or someone in the medical team messed up and this was caught late. Or genuinely it could just be a problem that presented itself and was then dealt with accordingly. But both knees is strange and concerning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 Bertrand took some part in training today, back in full training on Monday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 Is he turning into Luke Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 Would be interested to learn more on the Bertand issue. The operation was on both knees I think? And it was done in the middle of the summer. If I was going to wildly speculate I would suggest Bertrand could have been a naughty boy during the summer and did something he shouldn't have and got hurt or someone in the medical team messed up and this was caught late. Or genuinely it could just be a problem that presented itself and was then dealt with accordingly. But both knees is strange and concerning... I'm assuming he had some minor damage to both knees that he'd been playing despite, and it wasn't causing any significant problem but could probably have done with being tidied up - but then something happened to require surgery in one, and the club decided he may as well get both done at the same time. We'd have sent him in for surgery the day after the Man City game at the end of last season if there was a significant known issue at the time to give him the longest recovery possible without missing matches, so it's likely that it was a summer incident (he could have been weight or balance training, they still do stuff in the summer now) and they must have chosen to take advantage of him being out of action to fix a minor issue in the other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 Bertrand took some part in training today, back in full training on Monday... Good news, looks like he may be ready a little earlier than thought, maybe ManU may be too soon though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 Bertrand took some part in training today, back in full training on Monday... He's got a hedgehog on his head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 September, 2015 Share Posted 10 September, 2015 Update on Clasie and Forster in here.... http://m.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/13713142.Southampton_s_Bertrand_and_Clasie_still_on_road_to_recovery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 Forster maybe back before Christmas then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 Forster maybe back before Christmas then... Just like JRod last season then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 Just like JRod last season then... He would have been if he didn't get that infection tbf. Everything was right on course, but that infection he had added another 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 He would have been if he didn't get that infection tbf. Everything was right on course, but that infection he had added another 6 months. Well aware of that, chickens however should not be counted prematurely... Many injuries take longer than the manager hopes, Bertrand and Clasie two more shorter term examples. Not really too worried about Fraser, we have a more than adequate replacement as long as he doesn't get injured and we have to rely on Uncle Kelvin or Gazza again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 11 September, 2015 Author Share Posted 11 September, 2015 Well aware of that, chickens however should not be counted prematurely... Many injuries take longer than the manager hopes, Bertrand and Clasie two more shorter term examples. Not really too worried about Fraser, we have a more than adequate replacement as long as he doesn't get injured and we have to rely on Uncle Kelvin or Gazza again. This might be different tho and its best to think Positively. And gazza had improved loads IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petts Posted 11 September, 2015 Share Posted 11 September, 2015 Wasn't betrand into trampolining? Wounder if it's caused by that? Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 12 September, 2015 Share Posted 12 September, 2015 The Guardian have Clasie returning September 19, Bertrand September 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 Bertrand back for Swansea according to Koeman. Clasie longer. Koeman initially said back for the WBA game. Then it was the MK Dons game. Must be much worse than first though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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