Edmonton Saint Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 Another less than stellar performance from our captain tonight, and he was far too soft for their goal. Have we been wrong for the last couple of seasons and it's actually been Lovren and Alderwiereld making Fonte look good and not the other way around? Didn't see any leadership out there tonight and the insipid way we wen't down without a fight tonight, makes me wonder whether we should be looking to sign a defensive lynch-pin who can lead, and more importantly defend.. I am a worried man tonight, this side lacks fight and quality.
S-Clarke Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 I'm really worried about him this season so far. He looks very uneasy, making rash decisions, his touch is off, his positioning has been all over the show, he keeps losing his man. I'm not sure what's wrong with him, he's clearly better than this...so somethings up with the guy. The entire team is seemingly mirroring his form right now.
BotleySaint Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 He seems to have lost a bit of pace, a bit of alertness. Always seems the wrong side of the defender. But then a lot of his mates have been sold. All of them, in fact.
Patrick Bateman Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 I've said the last two matches that he was shocking. He's been an absolute hero, no denying, but so far this season he looks like he needs time out.
SuperMikey Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 He's been poor in every single game this season, especially tonight and against Newcastle. Tbf he is playing in almost an entirely new defence, but he needs to take a look at himself.
Bakovnetski Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 Can we get the Scousers to pay £10 million for him?
alpine_saint Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 Toby was to Fonte what Killer was to Claus. He's lost his cover and his confidence (and maybe some motivation)
S-Clarke Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 Toby was to Fonte what Killer was to Claus. He's lost his cover and his confidence (and maybe some motivation) Nah, he was still a rock when Toby was out last year (which was quite a bit tbf). He just looks totally off his game.
Saints foreva Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 No longer has Schneiderlin to make him look better.
DrunkenSaint Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 No longer has Schneiderlin to make him look better. This, its been Morgan all along which made our defenders look a lot better than they really are. Fonte is also getting on in premiership terms, so we really need 2 new defenders this window and Caulker don't count!
Bristol_Benji Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 No longer has Schneiderlin to make him look better. This. Schneiderlin made our defence look immense. No surprise how Man Utd seem to have a better defence now.....
melmacian_saint Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 This topic is pathetic with all due respect.
saint_ed Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 This topic is pathetic with all due respect. Why? it's a valid point
Crab Lungs Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 Nothing to do with that poor sod... one moment he's got competent footballers beside him, the next moment he's got Martina, Yoshida, Caulker and Targett all brainfarting alongside him. Poor fecker is overworked thinking for them four, let alone covering them physically as well.
melmacian_saint Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 Why? it's a valid point Is it though? Our back 4 has changed completely, there is no evidence his former partners are doing any better without him, our signings have been poor (our defenders, Bertrand aside, even more so) and even though he hasn't been amazing he had a good game at Watford. There are so many more players in that starting 11 that are a concern, that I think Fonte is at the bottom of most people's list. In fact I worry much more about our manager than him. For some reason however, he is just one of those players who doesn't become a complete myth in the eyes of this forum like Hooiveld, Tadic, Ramirez or Cork.
Convict Colony Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 To be fair Fonte has made more errors in the games i've watched this season than i saw last season and that includes the gift goals to RVP
Wrensup Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 To be fair Fonte has made more errors in the games i've watched this season than i saw last season and that includes the gift goals to RVP He is playing 4 positions at the moment mind covering everyone's arses
Crab Lungs Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 He is playing 4 positions at the moment mind covering everyone's arses This. Countless times he was dragged left and right (from the middle CB position) because those around him couldn't deal with things. Fonte is probably under more pressure with this defence than he's ever been, hence why he's probably all over the place a bit himself. Those around him are f()cking useless.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 He's doing the post-match. "The fact is we didn't perform as well as we could have, we aren't happy about it. It's disappointing for everyone." "We need to pick ourselves up. I hope the public in St Mary's sunday are patient with us, we need them more than ever."
Wrensup Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 This. Countless times he was dragged left and right (from the middle CB position) because those around him couldn't deal with things. Fonte is probably under more pressure with this defence than he's ever been, hence why he's probably all over the place a bit himself. Those around him are f()cking useless. Exactly I feel sorry for the poor guy, if things stay the same he'll be out the Portugal squad for the up coming euros!
Saints foreva Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 He's doing the post-match. "The fact is we didn't perform as well as we could have, we aren't happy about it. It's disappointing for everyone." "We need to pick ourselves up. I hope the public in St Mary's sunday are patient with us, we need them more than ever." Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Wiggles31 Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Think he's being pretty honest there. What exactly did you want him to say?
Saint Charlie Posted 27 August, 2015 Posted 27 August, 2015 There is/was something going on behind the scenes judging by the change of agent and supposed Villa interest. Could be affecting him, afterall his previous two CB partners and both fullbacks have moved onto to bigger clubs and gained tidy pay rises in the last 18months, maybe he has a slight feeling of missing out? Would be understandable to a degree.
Plastic Posted 28 August, 2015 Posted 28 August, 2015 Just listened to his post match interview. Fonts has always had a mistake in him tbf, and I don't blame him for that. The blame here lies with poor team selection and tactics.
manzo Posted 28 August, 2015 Posted 28 August, 2015 This. Countless times he was dragged left and right (from the middle CB position) because those around him couldn't deal with things. Fonte is probably under more pressure with this defence than he's ever been, hence why he's probably all over the place a bit himself. Those around him are f()cking useless. Not sure how anyone else was to blame for him completely selling himself for the goal last night, that was his mistake alone, pure and simple. I think the fact that Lovren, Toby and Fonte have struggled without Morgan in front of them speaks volumes.
Killers Knee Posted 28 August, 2015 Posted 28 August, 2015 Nothing to do with that poor sod... one moment he's got competent footballers beside him, the next moment he's got Martina, Yoshida, Caulker and Targett all brainfarting alongside him. Poor fecker is overworked thinking for them four, let alone covering them physically as well. dis
Killers Knee Posted 28 August, 2015 Posted 28 August, 2015 Not sure how anyone else was to blame for him completely selling himself for the goal last night, that was his mistake alone, pure and simple. I think the fact that Lovren, Toby and Fonte have struggled without Morgan in front of them speaks volumes. and the fact Smalling is starting to look good all of a sudden
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 28 August, 2015 Posted 28 August, 2015 Yes, Fonte was poor last night but to suggest he's suddenly turned into a terrible player is utter b*llocks. He was clear MOM against Watford just five days ago. He hasn't turned into a bad player overnight. It was clear to see how disappointed he was after the game last night. He is our Captain and has been a rock for us for years. Get behind him and the team on Sunday FFS.
saintwbu Posted 28 August, 2015 Posted 28 August, 2015 Anyone notice how the press are praising Chris Smalling for a massive improvement in performances lately? The Schneiderlin effect. I've said it to people for ages, Morgan Schneiderlin can make a good centre half look great and an average one look good. Lovren struggled after he left, Toby hasn't looked as good so far (very early days) and now it's Jose's turn
Saints foreva Posted 28 August, 2015 Posted 28 August, 2015 Yes, Fonte was poor last night but to suggest he's suddenly turned into a terrible player is utter b*llocks. He was clear MOM against Watford just five days ago. He hasn't turned into a bad player overnight. It was clear to see how disappointed he was after the game last night. He is our Captain and has been a rock for us for years. Get behind him and the team on Sunday FFS. Would he still be MOTM against Watford if they scored those two sitters?
alpine_saint Posted 28 August, 2015 Posted 28 August, 2015 Anyone notice how the press are praising Chris Smalling for a massive improvement in performances lately? The Schneiderlin effect. I've said it to people for ages, Morgan Schneiderlin can make a good centre half look great and an average one look good. Lovren struggled after he left, Toby hasn't looked as good so far (very early days) and now it's Jose's turn If so, we gave him away. Should have asked for double
trousers Posted 28 August, 2015 Posted 28 August, 2015 Southampton FC @SouthamptonFC INTERNATIONALS: José Fonte and Cédric Soares have been named in the Portugal squad for games against France and Albania. Good news for a CB who's 'getting on a bit' and 'out of form'
derry Posted 28 August, 2015 Posted 28 August, 2015 I think the problem might be having to push over to cover the other centre back who meanwhile is trying to cover the out of depth must play youngster.
Convict Colony Posted 28 August, 2015 Posted 28 August, 2015 Fonte looks off form and out of touch. Yeah I agree with this, he has looked the more error prone so far this season in my opinion, from loose passes to being caught out by the attackers he is on the backfoot. Anyway hopefully training against Ronaldo for a week or so should sharpen him up and to quote Toby's comment the other week, hopefully having a proper defensive partnership in-front of him should help tighten up the midfield.
Convict Colony Posted 5 September, 2015 Posted 5 September, 2015 In the Daily Fail this morning in the article about Jorge Mendes: "Mendes, who was unavailable for comment, has a quirky sense of fair play and it certainly came as a surprise to the Portuguese agent Artur Fernandes when he received an invitation to Mendes’s wedding last month. Just weeks before, Fernandes had lost Southampton captain Jose Fonte to Mendes. Fonte remains at St Mary’s, angling for a new contract to put him in line with the club’s top earners or waiting for a move to a top club at the end of the season. Now that he is working with Mendes, that day will come." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3222838/Jorge-Mendes-agent-Jose-Mourinho-Cristiano-Ronaldo-Angel-di-Maria-Pepe-Radamel-Falcao-David-Gea-does-muscle-big-deals.html
doddisalegend Posted 5 September, 2015 Posted 5 September, 2015 Agents are bad for football. edit for you.
saints1988 Posted 5 September, 2015 Posted 5 September, 2015 Well that is a load of rubbish, jose is one of our top earners due to him signing a new contract when he was made captain at the start of last season
Verbal Kint Posted 6 September, 2015 Posted 6 September, 2015 Jorge mendes is bad for football. Why? because he's looking after the financial interests of a player that's underpaid (in context)? Well that is a load of rubbish, jose is one of our top earners due to him signing a new contract when he was made captain at the start of last season How do you know what he's on?
DuncanRG Posted 6 September, 2015 Posted 6 September, 2015 Why? because he's looking after the financial interests of a player that's underpaid (in context)? How do you know what he's on? (It was reported when he signed his new contract that he had become our top earner)
Delboy Dave Posted 6 September, 2015 Posted 6 September, 2015 I seem to remember it being reported he was on £45k/week. Not underpaid if you ask me (in context)
Verbal Kint Posted 6 September, 2015 Posted 6 September, 2015 How do you know what he's on? (It was reported when he signed his new contract that he had become our top earner) I seem to remember it being reported he was on £45k/week. Not underpaid if you ask me (in context) No chance he's on that IMO
doddisalegend Posted 6 September, 2015 Posted 6 September, 2015 Why? because he's looking after the financial interests of a player that's underpaid (in context)? How do you know what he's on? LOL let me dry my eyes. All PL footballers (and probably most in the three other English leagues) are overpaid. A world were footballers get paid more in a week than a nurse gets in a year is ****ed up IMO. Still that's a soap box for another day.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 6 September, 2015 Posted 6 September, 2015 LOL let me dry my eyes. All PL footballers (and probably most in the three other English leagues) are overpaid. A world were footballers get paid more in a week than a nurse gets in a year is ****ed up IMO. Still that's a soap box for another day. How do you define whether or not someone is overpaid? Premier League footballers are underpaid if you look at the revenue they generate...
Wrensup Posted 6 September, 2015 Posted 6 September, 2015 How do you define whether or not someone is overpaid? Premier League footballers are underpaid if you look at the revenue they generate... Also, don't think thousands of people go to watch a nurse in action?
Verbal Kint Posted 6 September, 2015 Posted 6 September, 2015 LOL let me dry my eyes. All PL footballers (and probably most in the three other English leagues) are overpaid. A world were footballers get paid more in a week than a nurse gets in a year is ****ed up IMO. Still that's a soap box for another day. The bit in brackets was the relevant bit. And even so, if Fonte, like the majority of footballers, has told his agent he wants to get the best financial deal possible, why is it the agents that get grief for it? Never understood it to be honest, they're just doing their job
Delboy Dave Posted 6 September, 2015 Posted 6 September, 2015 No chance he's on that IMO Think I'm getting confused with this http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-face-another-transfer-raid-3915243
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