Does there need to be a new European League

[Mr Biscuits]

Just thinking about the position we are in - the 'goldilocks' zone of better than most of the Premier League clubs but not quite enough to challenge the top 4. And we keep on seeing our better players getting poached.

I just wonder if we will ever cross that gap between the big 4 clubs and the rest of the PL and if the gap is so big that they can be considered to be in their own league? If so would it not be better for them to actually be playing in some sort of European League with the likes of Barcalona and Real Madrid rather than in the PL?

[LGTL]

Hopefully there will be one day. Let them get on with their poxy league and 10pm kick offs on a Thursday to suit Asia and we can all get on with it 3pm on a Saturday.

[Daft Kerplunk]

Ultimately it is unlikely, as at some point, the teams would realise they will also have a chance of being bottom of the league, as opposed to their dominance of the top positions they enjoy. There would probably be a market internationally but there are many pitfalls and clubs would probably have to start completely afresh, with all the big cities represented by new teams for it to really work.

 

People compare the idea to US sports but the big difference is US sports have been city and territory based for a long time so loyalties aren't as entrenched.

 

The problem now is the dominance the bigger teams have with the media who perpetuate the success f these clubs regardless of their ability to create teams. It would be nice if they celebrated the new teams breaking through instead but that will take time.

[Matthew Le God]

Just thinking about the position we are in - the 'goldilocks' zone of better than most of the Premier League clubs but not quite enough to challenge the top 4. And we keep on seeing our better players getting poached.

I just wonder if we will ever cross that gap between the big 4 clubs and the rest of the PL and if the gap is so big that they can be considered to be in their own league? If so would it not be better for them to actually be playing in some sort of European League with the likes of Barcalona and Real Madrid rather than in the PL?

 

How would that help? Saints would still lose players to the sides in the new league you propose.

 

Plus how do you decide who plays in it? Is it a closed shop for eternity?

[Batman]

We are in a European league. Or will be when the new TV deal kicks in

[benjii]

It's hard to know what the long-term consequences would be. Presumably this is something that would not have promotion/relegation but would be a closed shop? The only way to have a sensible promotion system would be to have pan-European promotion qualifications so you would end up with a European wide league or playoff competition at "lower" levels as well. It would be hard for anyone not included to vote for a closed shop that excludes themselves. Can't see it happening on a consensual basis.

 

That said, I would be quite happy playing in a league where Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool and Man City are replaced by Derby, Forest, Sheff Wednesday, Leeds, Charlton, Bristol City, etc...

 

But what would the consequences for lower league clubs be? Would Liebherr have bought us if the tv revenues predicated on competing with the likes of Man U were't the light at the end of the tunnel? Would Bristol City have a new investor? Would Pompey have been able to raise funds for a fence and portakabin?

 

I think it would make things more interesting in the short term but would lead to long-term decay.

 

A much better solution for the problem of financial disparity is regulation of wage structures (not revenue-based FFP-style nonsense); a flat wage limit accross Premier League clubs set at a level which most can realistically afford to pay. Obviously the Man U's, Man City's, Chelsea's etc will never agree to that, and neither will the FA, but it's the only sensible way to ensure a fairer and more interesting competition IMO.

[Mr Biscuits]

It does occur to me that perhaps just having a 'financial fair play' system in place which is actually realistic and...... Fair.... Would probably solve most of the issue. But then so would taking money out of football. Which should happen shortly after I next get laid (based on current success rate)

[Lighthouse]

Wouldn't work, too many big problems like;

 

1 - How do you decide who plays in this big league? The same teams every season? If not, surely it's just like the Champs League now.

2 - Away day travel would bankrupt most fans.

3 - The Premier League would lose all interest from major TV companies both here and abroad. Do you think many people in Spain or China would watch a league being fought over by Saints, Stoke and Everton? With no money, the new Euro League would just buy anyone remotely decent from EPL. We'd end up like the SPL or Eredivise.

[Fan The Flames]

Wouldn't work, too many big problems like;

 

1 - How do you decide who plays in this big league? The same teams every season? If not, surely it's just like the Champs League now.

2 - Away day travel would bankrupt most fans.

3 - The Premier League would lose all interest from major TV companies both here and abroad. Do you think many people in Spain or China would watch a league being fought over by Saints, Stoke and Everton? With no money, the new Euro League would just buy anyone remotely decent from EPL. We'd end up like the SPL or Eredivise.

 

They are not problems, they are just technicalities and consequences.

 

There is no European League at the moment, the CL is still a cup competition. Undoubtedly the big clubs would have formed a European League by now if they really wanted too. But at the moment the CL teams have the best best of both worlds, domestic dominance and European games, both producing loads of cash, so whilst they can milk both cows the status quo will persist.

 

You can't restrict wages or player movements because of European law, so it's difficult to know how you level the pitch.

 

I wouldn't be against the big clubs ****ing off and leaving the English League, that would help make the EPL more competitive. Yes we would lose players to bigger clubs but that happens anyway, the finances of the league would drop but even with today's huge finances we still do not have enough to spend enough to get into and stay in the top four.

[FloridaMarlin]

Two years ago I would have said a European/World league, underpinned by mega TV deals and involving the big glamour clubs, was nailed on.

 

And its format would be very much NFL - 20 teams, forming a cartel, pulling up the drawbridge and no prospect of promotion or relegation to break into the top table.

 

It would suit everybody (except those clubs not in it). Those clubs in the Super League (or whatever you care to call it) share the money between themselves, and the TV companies get top games every week and don't have to try and sell Stoke v Norwich to the Far Eastern scarfers and shirt wearers who only want to see Man Utd/City/Arsenal/Real Madrid/ Barca/Bayern/PSG/Juve.

 

And if it was/is going to happen, it would be need to be soon, with Fifa's stock at an all-time low, it would be a good time for the TV companies to sign the world's top clubs up to form a Kerry Packer-style unilateral withdrawal and form a pirate competition off the grid and stick two fingers up to international football (which the big clubs don't really like, in any case).

 

But I think BT Sport coming on to the scene has changed the picture and dynamic.

 

Murdoch would have been the prime mover and shaker with his TV networks throughout the world, and really doesn't give a tinker's cuss about the structure and state of the game at large. All he and the other networks want is to sell subscriptions.

 

But their position of power had suddenly been undermined by BT Sport, who not only panicked Sky into paying way over the odds for their Premier League coverage but are nibbling away at their portfolio of other sports including cricket and rugby.

 

BT have the financial wherewithal to blow Sky/Newscorp out of the water, and their main reason for suddenly appearing on the sports scene a couple of years ago is play the long game.

 

They know that in 10-15 years we won't be watching TV as we know it, but that everything will be via broadband.

 

I currently pay £70 a month for my Sky package (yes, I know, I an idiot) but as a (long-standing) BT Broadband customer, I get all the PL football 'free' as part of the package, and only have to fork out another £5 a month for BT TV which gives me Champions and Europa League.

 

Now BT Sport have snaffled the cricket, I am getting to the point where I am questioning whether I need my full Sky package.

 

Now, of course, there's no reason to suppose that BT Sport would not underpin a breakaway European/World/Super League, but from what people in the broadcast industry tell me, BT are a bit less venal than Sky. In fact, BT still regard their sports coverage as something of a loss leader, with the greater aim of getting people to sign up for broadband, which is where the really big money will be in 10-15 years time.

 

In the same way Nick Clegg says the Lib Dems were an ameliorating influence on the coalition government and stopped the Conservatives from introducing all their nastiest policies, so the presence of BT might be a calming influence on Sky, who suddenly realise they do not have things their own way.

 

But while BT's presence might at best prevent, or at least delay, the formation of a Super League, they are still as guilty as anybody else in pumping large amounts of money into football, which will retain the current status quo of the biggest clubs maintaining the gap between them and the rest.

[hutch]

You can't restrict wages or player movements because of European law, so it's difficult to know how you level the pitch.

Easy. Squad size and loans. Even Europe's giants aren't going to pay huge amounts for players that they can't register to play, and can't loan out to other clubs to play instead.

 

The present loan system is a farce.

[Fan The Flames]

It's a bit short sighted to think that Sky and BT are tho only people who can create a breakaway league. BT have got into sports because Sky was nicking their broadband business, they are playing them at their own game, also because there is an industry belief that people we won't a combined provider for TV, broadband and mobile.

 

I would guess that there are many organisations working on a European League or World League as we speak. I do think it will happen one day.

[Diabolus Ex Machina]

A break away league would only help competition in the short term anyway. If there was still money to be made in the league then another set of rich owners would come in anyway and buy some teams which would again immediately shoot ahead of everyone else and you're left with the same position with a new top 4. Alternately if the creation of a breakaway league got rid of the Champs league etc.. you could reduce that number of top teams to probably 1 or 2 and then you just have the SPL when it was Rangers and Celtic fighting it out for the title and cups every year.

 

What needs to happen is for the playing field to be levelled somehow. Current FFP has made a complete pigs ear of it and only helps enforce the status quo so something else would be needed. A salary/wage cap would be a good start but would be hard to enforce given European labour law I would have thought. Also if you start limiting player wages then the top players will just be poached by other leagues.

 

But for example if the Premier League were to implement an annual salary cap for each team of say £65 million, you could theoretically pay a 25 man squad £50,000 a week each to play. If you want a better player and want to pay him higher wages then someone else needs to be paid less. You could even offset this over a number of years perhaps so you could pay more for success in the short term but then have a reduced cap in the future.

 

As long as the salary cap wasn't set too high it could work in theory. Yes the top teams could go to the maximum every year but it would be fun to see someone like a QPR or West Ham spunk out for a single season to try and challenge.

 

Will never happen unfortunately but I do like the idea of it.

[FloridaMarlin]

Wouldn't work, too many big problems like;

 

1 - How do you decide who plays in this big league? The same teams every season? If not, surely it's just like the Champs League now.

2 - Away day travel would bankrupt most fans.

3 - The Premier League would lose all interest from major TV companies both here and abroad. Do you think many people in Spain or China would watch a league being fought over by Saints, Stoke and Everton? With no money, the new Euro League would just buy anyone remotely decent from EPL. We'd end up like the SPL or Eredivise.

 

Not so, in my humble opinion.

 

What you see as problems are based on the assumption that the top clubs would act in the interest of the common good, or of their supporters, neither of which are high on their agenda.

 

1) Who decides who plays in this big league? The clubs themselves do. The G14 might have disbanded in 2008 to be replaced by the European Club Association, but that was only after the G14 wrung huge concessions from a frightened Fifa, who agreed to compensate G14 member clubs for players participating and getting injured in World Cup matches. But the G14 haven't really gone away and if somebody waved a big enough cheque at them, they could reform overnight, get together, and form a cabal that would walk away from their respective domestic competitions, taking their best players in the world with them, and straight into the welcoming arms of a broadcaster who would bankroll their breakaway tournament.

 

2) Away day travel would bankrupt most fans. Sorry to disillusion you, but the only reason the TV companies want big crowds is as a backdrop to the games. Fans won't really figure in the bigger picture. In fact, as the income from TV money has increased, clubs have become less reliant on the numbers coming through the turnstiles. Gate receipts are still not an insignificant source of income, especially when you pull in 75,000 every home match like Man Utd, but Premier League clubs' survival is no longer predicated on them. Clubs count the TV money first, and then see how much jam the gates put on the top.

 

The model for that is in The States where there is little or no tradition of away support. Tampa Bay fans don't travel to Seattle, or New England fans to San Diego. It's too far and expensive and they are accustomed to watching their team on the road, on the box. Not only will fans have to get used to not following their team away, but the only way to see their team on the road would be by taking out a TV subscription. Extrapolate that, and fewer fans travelling=more TV subscriptions=more TV income, so it would actually benefit clubs for their fans NOT to travel.

 

Besides, why do you need to consider fans' travel costs when your main market will be the untold millions of the Far East.

 

3.The Premier League would lose all interest from major TV companies both here and abroad. Do you think many people in Spain or China would watch a league being fought over by Saints, Stoke and Everton? With no money, the new Euro League would just buy anyone remotely decent from EPL.

 

I think you have partly answered your own question here. People in China aren't interested in watching Saints, Stoke or Everton at the moment. The PL know that, and just as importantly, the top clubs know it as well. In 1991, the big clubs even then needed the smaller clubs to break away from the Football League to form the PL, and they got them to do that by a collective agreement over TV monies. But that collective agreement is now a millstone around the necks of the big clubs, who know they would do a lot better for themselves if they broke away and hived off all the money.

 

You are right, a Premier League with Saints, Everton and Stoke is not as appealing to your Far Eastern audiences as a Super League with Man Utd/City/Chelsea/Real Madrid/Barca/Bayern/PSG/Juve would be, so scrap the English Premier League and make it better by bringing the top European/World clubs on board.

 

I don't see what you describe as problems, being that. They would be problems for us, because we would be on the outside looking in. But in the ruthless cold-hearted business world of football and broadcasting, what you see as problems are either minor hurdles to be skipped over, or as in (2), things that don't really concern the big clubs or broadcasters.

 

My humble opinion is that over the next 10-15 years - possibly even shorter than that - we will have to get used to watching our football in a completely different way.

 

The best players will head to the Super Clubs in the Super League, and our top domestic league will be like the Eredivisie. There will be some TV money because people like the BBC and ITV will find it within their compass to deal with clubs who have been shorn of their best talent, and are keen for any income.

 

There are those who say things will be better if the top four/five went off and did their own thing, formed a Super League and left the rest of us to it. But clubs like us, Everton, Spurs (who wouldn't get into an Super League) would face a bleak future. It would be like going back to the 1950s and 60s in some way, as clubs would have to survive on their wits, recruitment talent, and gate receipts, but always with the knowledge that no matter what they do, they will always be second best.

[The9]

Just thinking about the position we are in - the 'goldilocks' zone of better than most of the Premier League clubs but not quite enough to challenge the top 4. And we keep on seeing our better players getting poached.

I just wonder if we will ever cross that gap between the big 4 clubs and the rest of the PL and if the gap is so big that they can be considered to be in their own league? If so would it not be better for them to actually be playing in some sort of European League with the likes of Barcalona and Real Madrid rather than in the PL?

 

They don't want it, especially not the Prem clubs - making way too much money from the Premier League.

[RoswellSaint]

There are those who say things will be better if the top four/five went off and did their own thing, formed a Super League and left the rest of us to it. But clubs like us, Everton, Spurs (who wouldn't get into an Super League) would face a bleak future. It would be like going back to the 1950s and 60s in some way, as clubs would have to survive on their wits, recruitment talent, and gate receipts, but always with the knowledge that no matter what they do, they will always be second best.

 

Would this be such a bad thing? We know Saints will never win the Premier League but we might win a league without the big clubs. Would make it a more open competition - more like Holland than Scotland. Much more interesting and would we care if there wasn't the money? Even those of us living overseas would probably still find we could watch games.

[Diabolus Ex Machina]

Would this be such a bad thing? We know Saints will never win the Premier League but we might win a league without the big clubs. Would make it a more open competition - more like Holland than Scotland. Much more interesting and would we care if there wasn't the money? Even those of us living overseas would probably still find we could watch games.

 

Well we could just deliberately tank this season, get relegated and try winning the Championship next season, would mean the same thing in principle if you're only concerned with having a certain level of competition and being able to win.

[Diabolus Ex Machina]

Also it does make me wonder with a possible break off league - assuming these big teams did all break off I wonder what would happen to their individual levels of support? Even with the big teams there are varying levels of funding available meaning some will rise to the top over others (thinking Man U, Barca, Madrid etc...). What happens when an Arsenal ends up bottom of the league 5 years straight, do all the (non-diehard) fans move to supporting Barcelona or whoever? Would Arsenal be happy getting paid more but without a chance of winning anything?

[melmacian_saint]

It does seem to be the trend. Automatic CL spots on the top 5 leagues fall more and more frequently to the same teams, and only play-off contenders change every now and then.

 

If you look around Europe's middle-class leagues, you always hear the same names as domestic champions. Celtic, Basel, Olympiakos, Dinamo Zagreb... the changes are rare.

 

So I think at some point there will be two closed leagues, given that there are a lot of clubs. I wouldn't be surprised if their names aren't two different from Champions League and Europa League. Their naming as "leagues" while still being Cups seems to suggest that. The fact that the Europa winner gets to play in the Champions League also points to me that they are no longer seen in isolation but as part of a wider pyramid.

 

I don't, of course, wish for something like this to happen, but I recognize the desire is there, both political and commercial.

 

There will still be professional domestic leagues of course, but some (the best) will experience a slight decline, and very few have anything to gain.

[doddisalegend]

A new league solves nothing. What we need is a level playing field so that every club from top to bottom has the same transfer budget and wage structure (on the low side Ie no more than a grand a week in pay for any player worldwide). Owners would love it as they could pocket most of the TV cash. Players and agents would go into melt down and clubs could pass on the benefits to supporters with five quid match day tickets.

[SaintBobby]

I'd merge the Europa League and the Champions League. You could do so by adding just one more round of games.

 

The benefit would be that relatively smaller teams such as Saints, Fulham, West Ham etc could strive to regularly get into the top European competition. Having an A-list and a B-list competition means that middling teams can't ever really hope to get beyond the B-list.

 

Since the European Cup became the Champions League, the UEFA/Europa League has become enormously devalued. When the European Cup just included the actual Champions, a case could be made that the UEFA Cup was actually more competitive than the European Cup. Surely, the latter included a handful of truly excellent teams. But the former included a vast swathe of very,very good teams.

[CB Fry]

A new league solves nothing. What we need is a level playing field so that every club from top to bottom has the same transfer budget and wage structure (on the low side Ie no more than a grand a week in pay for any player worldwide). Owners would love it as they could pocket most of the TV cash. Players and agents would go into melt down and clubs could pass on the benefits to supporters with five quid match day tickets.

You forgot to mention free hot dogs.

[doddisalegend]

You forgot to mention free hot dogs.

 

You're alright not keen on putting pigs penis, ears and eye lids in my mouth....

[Saint Charlie]

Would just mean the likes of Sporting Lisbon, Marseille and Dynamo Kiev buying our best players as well as Man Utd, Liverpool or Spurs.

 

Its great being part of the PL, we are playing in the best league in the world so not sure why anyone would want to be in a lesser league, watching lesser players?

[doddisalegend]

Would just mean the likes of Sporting Lisbon, Marseille and Dynamo Kiev buying our best players as well as Man Utd, Liverpool or Spurs.

 

Its great being part of the PL, we are playing in the best league in the world so not sure why anyone would want to be in a lesser league, watching lesser players?

 

According to sky PR anyway.

[Saint Charlie]

According to sky PR anyway.

 

It pretty much is, even with the ludicrous levels of hype.

[doddisalegend]

It pretty much is, even with the ludicrous levels of hype.

 

I still think the Championship is far more competitive and interesting as leagues go.

[Mystic Force]

So this got me thinking, IF a European super league formed outside the existing governing structure it would be likely that those players would there ability to play in international competitions, no longer representing there country. How much would that cost? To buy someone away from the prestige of representing their country. Initially it would be a big deal, but over time it would mean international competition would be less prestigious without the best players.

 

I can only think of one remotely similair example and that was Rugby, where amateur union players left for the money in league, but then lost out on the chance to play for country in the more prestigious union internationals.

 

My second thought is if it was a closed shop, Arsenal say, could do a Florida Marlins and buy cheap players and just collect the money from the big TV deal, with no threat of relegation to keep them honest.

 

 

And finally not all the big fish are as big in a pond with only big fish.

[CB Fry]

You're alright not keen on putting pigs penis, ears and eye lids in my mouth....

Fair enough. You forgot to mention solid gold seats in the stadium.

[doddisalegend]

Fair enough. You forgot to mention solid gold seats in the stadium.

 

No chance go back to terraces standing only at games.

[Batman]

No chance go back to terraces standing only at games.

 

everything you want can be experienced at Eastleigh

[doddisalegend]

everything you want can be experienced at Eastleigh

 

Easy for an Everton fan to say but my team is Southampton.

[saint michael]

Yes UCk off glory hunters lets get back to a real competition where if we play well we have chance of winning league

[Saint Charlie]

I still think the Championship is far more competitive and interesting as leagues go.

 

The football is often poor though. Depends what you are looking for.

 

All the fans of Championship teams want to be in the PL.

[doddisalegend]

The football is often poor though. Depends what you are looking for.

 

All the fans of Championship teams want to be in the PL.

 

Of course they do. You have to have something to aim for or else what's the point? It.s just most will probably realise that the journey is more fun than the destination. As for the quality I can't say I ever enjoyed league 1 or the championship less because I wasn't watching world class players and TBF when some top class player like Aguero is scoring against Saints I don't stand there thinking "Wow that was great, top quality football, so glad I'm watching a world class player taking my team to school"

[Lallana's Left Peg]

The money will follow all of the big teams and then we will play in an inferior league. A really bad idea and very bad news for Saints.

[Deano6]

Just thinking about the position we are in - the 'goldilocks' zone of better than most of the Premier League clubs but not quite enough to challenge the top 4. And we keep on seeing our better players getting poached.

I just wonder if we will ever cross that gap between the big 4 clubs and the rest of the PL and if the gap is so big that they can be considered to be in their own league? If so would it not be better for them to actually be playing in some sort of European League with the likes of Barcalona and Real Madrid rather than in the PL?

 

You're suggesting they restructure European football leagues to better suit the desires of Southampton to finish top of one?

[andoru]

How would that help? Saints would still lose players to the sides in the new league you propose.

 

Plus how do you decide who plays in it? Is it a closed shop for eternity?

 

We would, but it would be like Celtic losing players to us. That doesn't affect them much, because they play in a lower-quality league and don't need superstars to do well. An English league without the 'big' clubs would be similarly weaker, and so a team could compete at the top with a lower-quality squad. Losing players sucks, but if you're going to, much better to lose them to teams you're not in competition with.

[andoru]

Also it does make me wonder with a possible break off league - assuming these big teams did all break off I wonder what would happen to their individual levels of support? Even with the big teams there are varying levels of funding available meaning some will rise to the top over others (thinking Man U, Barca, Madrid etc...). What happens when an Arsenal ends up bottom of the league 5 years straight, do all the (non-diehard) fans move to supporting Barcelona or whoever? Would Arsenal be happy getting paid more but without a chance of winning anything?

 

What's more interesting is that, internationally, people often support more than one 'big' club. Here in China, the same plastic fans support Real Madrid, Man Utd and Bayern Munich in equal measure. What would they do if they were all in the same competition? (I never get a straight answer when I ask that about the Champions League.)

[CB Fry]

What's more interesting is that, internationally, people often support more than one 'big' club. Here in China, the same plastic fans support Real Madrid, Man Utd and Bayern Munich in equal measure. What would they do if they were all in the same competition? (I never get a straight answer when I ask that about the Champions League.)

 

Surely they'd just just support whichever team has a plain red kit?

[Redslo]

Also it does make me wonder with a possible break off league - assuming these big teams did all break off I wonder what would happen to their individual levels of support? Even with the big teams there are varying levels of funding available meaning some will rise to the top over others (thinking Man U, Barca, Madrid etc...). What happens when an Arsenal ends up bottom of the league 5 years straight, do all the (non-diehard) fans move to supporting Barcelona or whoever? Would Arsenal be happy getting paid more but without a chance of winning anything?

 

The break away league would have to be organized like American sports so there would be a salary cap and revenue sharing. There might even be some kind of a draft--if there is a way to make that league under European Law. This would create a situation where any club, if they are well run (or lucky), could contend for the title.

 

I'd merge the Europa League and the Champions League. You could do so by adding just one more round of games.

 

The benefit would be that relatively smaller teams such as Saints, Fulham, West Ham etc could strive to regularly get into the top European competition. Having an A-list and a B-list competition means that middling teams can't ever really hope to get beyond the B-list.

 

Since the European Cup became the Champions League, the UEFA/Europa League has become enormously devalued. When the European Cup just included the actual Champions, a case could be made that the UEFA Cup was actually more competitive than the European Cup. Surely, the latter included a handful of truly excellent teams. But the former included a vast swathe of very,very good teams.

 

Have a 64 group phase that plays on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursday. Each club would only have two of the Thursday-Sunday weeks during the group phase. The knock out phase has 32 clubs and plays the same basic schedule as the Europa League does now, except Tuesdays and Wednesdays are also available. More Champions League games for TV. More clubs in the group phase so the revenue would be split more giving less of a big advantage to the regular qualifiers. England might well end up with 6 or 7 clubs in the group phase each year.

[Massimo Osti]

Wouldn't work, too many big problems like;

 

1 - How do you decide who plays in this big league? The same teams every season? If not, surely it's just like the Champs League now.

2 - Away day travel would bankrupt most fans.

3 - The Premier League would lose all interest from major TV companies both here and abroad. Do you think many people in Spain or China would watch a league being fought over by Saints, Stoke and Everton? With no money, the new Euro League would just buy anyone remotely decent from EPL. We'd end up like the SPL or Eredivise.

 

1 - The lowest placed team from all nations is replaced by the league winner of the PL *If they want to*

2 - Football is no longer about the fans , traveling fans will always travel.

3 - The Premier league would be more interesting and armchair fans have bought into it hook line & sinker so will still watch.

[sadoldgit]

1 - The lowest placed team from all nations is replaced by the league winner of the PL *If they want to*

2 - Football is no longer about the fans , traveling fans will always travel.

3 - The Premier league would be more interesting and armchair fans have bought into it hook line & sinker so will still watch.

 

Agree. The money they could make from telly revenue would be huge.