TwoPints Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 I know it's the Daily Star but this would be a disappointing development : http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/460640/Ron-Vlaar-transfer-news-Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 If it was done it would be announced surely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Seeing as he's injured until 2016, I would expect this to be transfer trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Why do the Star feel the need to make up crap like this and print it ? Is it some sort of loony article of the year contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Naive Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Why not bring a Dutch international free agent in as CB cover? Sounds feasible to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Why not bring a Dutch international free agent in as CB cover? Sounds feasible to me. Because he's injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Why not bring a Dutch international free agent in as CB cover? Sounds feasible to me. Cover for who. Gardos would be back not long after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Surely a rag like the star still has minimum standards - 'being linked' is cheap talk, perfect for plausible deniability. Everyone does it; everyone gets away with it. But claiming that someone's actually signed - that's slightly different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Not only a done deal but a done deal for a "Man Utd target"! This could be the start of a shift in the balance of power between the two clubs. No way will Sadio even consider going there after this, and no doubt Morgan will be questioning if it was the right move after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Imagine. Vlaar signs. Les says he worked hard to get it done and we have a strong squad etc with VvD signing for Stoke That won't happen, surely... Not when the club talks up champions league dreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Well, this would be the white flag for our season. Not fit until half the season is over, Yoshi and Caulker to cover this position. I guess this means VVD is staying at Celtic or going to Everton or Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkymojo44 Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Well, this would be the white flag for our season. Not fit until half the season is over, Yoshi and Caulker to cover this position. I guess this means VVD is staying at Celtic or going to Everton or Stoke. Went does it mean anything? The story is obviously rubbish so why jump to negative conclusions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Went does it mean anything? The story is obviously rubbish so why jump to negative conclusions? Because that's what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 As long as the signing wouldn't be instead of VVD but extra I'd be very pleased with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Well, this would be the white flag for our season. Not fit until half the season is over, Yoshi and Caulker to cover this position. I guess this means VVD is staying at Celtic or going to Everton or Stoke. Yep 100% this speculative story means that our season is over and we can put up the white flag - so no need for you to keep posting, it's over, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Doomed, we're all doomed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Surely a rag like the star still has minimum standards - 'being linked' is cheap talk, perfect for plausible deniability. Everyone does it; everyone gets away with it. But claiming that someone's actually signed - that's slightly different. They're not claiming that someone's actually signed. They're claiming that someone's claiming that someone's actually signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Imagine Yoshida is shipped out and we end up with Fonte Vlaar Van Dijk and Caulker as center backs. Would be very pleased with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 LOL at the illiteracy on here again. "this would be" means if this is the case. Come on, this would be a f**king awful signing if true, compared to who he is replacing and who we had come to expect replacing Toby. And you all know it. Where did I say I believe it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 They're not claiming that someone's actually signed. They're claiming that someone's claiming that someone's actually signed. True. Tortuous as it is, I can see how that's different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Well, this would be the white flag for our season. Not fit until half the season is over, Yoshi and Caulker to cover this position. I guess this means VVD is staying at Celtic or going to Everton or Stoke. I guess this means VVD is staying at Celtic or going to Everton or Stoke. I guess this means nothing of the sort as absolutely nothing has been said about VVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percy windham Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Imagine Yoshida is shipped out and we end up with Fonte Vlaar Van Dijk and Caulker as center backs. Would be very pleased with that. I would imagine Yoshida's ability to cover at right and left back means he won't be shipped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 This would be a pants signing, would just add to an already pretty slow back line and not what we need at all.... Which is why I can't see this being true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 (edited) This would be a pants signing, would just add to an already pretty slow back line and not what we need at all.... Which is why I can't see this being true. FWIW, I agree, but it will leave all of us scratching our heads wondering about the clubs direction if it is proven true. The club have no-one but themselves to blame for the media feeding frenzy about ins and outs. I am all in favour of keeping the activity confidential, but jesus, get them over the f**king line in reasonable order. Then the media would shut up. These last 1 or 2 signings are taking a lifetime, and I reckon there is a chance they wont get completed in time. Edited 22 August, 2015 by alpine_saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Alpine's Law: In any given set of circumstances, always assume that the most negative outcome is the most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkymojo44 Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 LOL at the illiteracy on here again. "this would be" means if this is the case. Come on, this would be a f**king awful signing if true, compared to who he is replacing and who we had come to expect replacing Toby. And you all know it. Where did I say I believe it ? I think it's more to do with jumping to negative conclusions whether or not the story is true or not. Guessing that VVD will be signing for Stoke or Everton (what you said) is a slight knee jerk reaction don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 announced weds. 30+ years old, horrendously slow, injured and pretty rubbish. sounds everything but a saints signing. surely, the 'famed' black box can come up with better than this trash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Because he's injured. And ****e. Painfully, painfully ****e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Instead of jumping to conclusions fed by some Italian Journo via The Star, why don't we wait and see if there is any truth in the rumour until we wet the bed. IF it is true, it doesn't mean that another CH wont be coming in. Still plenty of time until the window closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 And ****e. Painfully, painfully ****e. Ah, but according to The Star he is a Manchest-er Uni*ted target!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Well, this would be the white flag for our season. Not fit until half the season is over, Yoshi and Caulker to cover this position. I guess this means VVD is staying at Celtic or going to Everton or Stoke. Or maybe Dutch CB to be announced Wednesday (after Celtic CL match), and the reporter has put 2 and 2 together and got Vlaar, rather than (hopefully) VvD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Or maybe Dutch CB to be announced Wednesday (after Celtic CL match), and the reporter has put 2 and 2 together and got Vlaar, rather than (hopefully) VvD. blooming hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Come on mate, don't spoil their chances for a full blown wail and a good bet wet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Surely this is bull****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 One question - if it is a done deal, why wait until next Wednesday to announce it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Find this very hard to believe, considering the links to vvd and the Napoli guy. Unless of course one of our existing CBs is on the move somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Ah, but according to The Star he is a Manchest-er Uni*ted target!! Everybody is a Manchester United target. I got a call yesterday, it was probably from them, though in the end I put the phone down before anyone their end spoke, but I'm almost certain it was Woodward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Also Vlaar is a free agent so could sign anytime. If we are keen on him he could train with us to proove his fitness and then sign once he is near to being available. Why would we waste a few hundred grand rather than do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Also Vlaar is a free agent so could sign anytime. If we are keen on him he could train with us to proove his fitness and then sign once he is near to being available. Why would we waste a few hundred grand rather than do that? it has to be a load of bollix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Cover for who. Gardos would be back not long after I think I'd rather have Vlaar than Gardos sat on my bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 22 August, 2015 Author Share Posted 22 August, 2015 FWIW, I think the Star have made this up, not unsurprisingly. No-one else but the Star are reporting this so I think we can relax and wait until VVD or Koulibaly(?) signs on Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Also Vlaar is a free agent so could sign anytime. If we are keen on him he could train with us to proove his fitness and then sign once he is near to being available. Why would we waste a few hundred grand rather than do that? Because someone else might sign him in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Because someone else might sign him in the meantime. Hopefully they do. He would have been a good signing two years ago but not now and it would be a disappointing, cheap signing if it was instead of VVD or similar. Very unlikely we would sign two defenders. For that reason I doubt its true, although the Italian journalist memtioned by the Star seems clear on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Hopefully they do. He would have been a good signing two years ago but not now and it would be a disappointing, cheap signing if it was instead of VVD or similar. For that reason I doubt its true, although the Italian journalist memtioned by the Star seems clear on it. No one has suggested it's "instead". The longer it goes on without him signing, the cheaper his wages will get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 What's not to like about this one? Experienced premier league player and highly capped international, leader on the pitch and in the dressing room, only a year ago hailed as being a star of the world cup coming to us on a free transfer. Great bit of business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 What's not to like about this one? Experienced premier league player and highly capped international, leader on the pitch and in the dressing room, only a year ago hailed as being a star of the world cup coming to us on a free transfer. Great bit of business I remember the 6-1 game quite vividly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 No one has suggested it's "instead". The longer it goes on without him signing, the cheaper his wages will get. It must be instead (if true) because we don't need 5 senior centre backs, all on decent wages, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 I remember the 6-1 game quite vividly. Its a good job everyone didn't write off Clyne, Schnidelin, cork, lambert and Lallana after we lost 6-1 at arsenal 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 It must be instead (if true) because we don't need 5 senior centre backs, all on decent wages, surely? From what I've seen so far, we need 2, at the moment we've got 1. Maybe we just consider Yoshida as RB cover now... Caulker needs more games in a solid defence but his presence is part of it not looking like a solid defence. To be honest, having seen us concede to Midtjylland with Romeu and Wanyama in front of Caulker and Fonte and some of the mistakes made, I could see why we'd want to strengthen or CB options - I suspect he's 3rd choice behind Koulibaly and van Dijk though, and of course without a team his agent is going to be happy to put word out that we might have an interest just in case it prompts someone else to make an offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Its a good job everyone didn't write off Clyne, Schnidelin, cork, lambert and Lallana after we lost 6-1 at arsenal 3 years ago. Clyne was particularly toss in that match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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