Window Cleaner Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 if he had a stomach bug midweek, then he was always gonna be a doubt. Koeman said he is not leaving so why do so many people think RK is a liar ? Stomach bug obviously wasn't serious enough to keep him out of some nightclub or other though. There is obviously an underlying problem and RK is probably just stating the club line on the situation. We'll see soon enough how it all pans out.
Window Cleaner Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 He's probably disappointed like Schneiderlin that the club won't let him go. Maybe next year Vic. Chin up! With the basic difference is that one is a class act and always marketable and the other might soon be forgotten after a self enforced absence or a few poor games. Wanyama isn't that good, important to us perhaps but really not all that good on several fronts.
sadoldgit Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 He was clearly talking in a generic sense of recent weeks. Your polar view to Alpine that everything is rosey and the club can do, and never do, anything slightly below par is just as ridiculous as his view that everything is dire. There is middle ground you realise. Can you find my quotes where I have said that everything is rosy and the club can never do anything slightly below par? Show me the evidence and I will believe it. The trouble is the accusations about the club being mismanaged are very rarely, if ever, substantiated with anything to back them up. I'll give you an example, there are still some posters on here who peddle as a fact the reason that Toby didn't sign is because of the club's incompetence - this completely ignores the fact that the club tried to keep him and he decided to move elsewhere. But that doesn't sit nicely with the club being run like a second rate B & B does it, so the facts get airbrushed out of history and you can bet your mortgage this nonsense will be rolled out for years to come.
so22saint Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Did Koeman re-iterate nobody is being sold ?? No, but he is quoted as saying that Vic is "physically and mentally not good enough" to play today
Shance Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 They've already left. They obviously want the club run properly, which I'm all for. Just means our better players will end up leaving.
sadoldgit Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 I am still looking back to find out who else is queueing up to leave. I have found something that says Sadio wants to stay but that isn't helpful. Who else have I missed?
DT Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 'He's not mental or physical for the game', says Koeman. 'I perhaps talk more about that after the game'
DG Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Losing Morgan and Victor in the same window would be a disaster, but IF he is playing up would it be a bad idea to keep him if it affects the squad? Ah football.
Greenridge Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 I am still looking back to find out who else is queueing up to leave. I have found something that says Sadio wants to stay but that isn't helpful. Who else have I missed? He was obviously referring to this transfer window when 3 of last years team decided their future was elsewhere. You can argue the semantics of the why's and wherefores but they're not here now through their own choice. Clear enough?
Dig Dig Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 I am still looking back to find out who else is queueing up to leave. I have found something that says Sadio wants to stay but that isn't helpful. Who else have I missed? Give it a rest, you're a poor spin doctor. We've had plenty of players agitating for moves in the last 12 months. Do we really need to find anymore?
DT Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 'They've had the heart ripped out of them' - Garry Neville on Saints just now on Sky. Looking more like that by the day
Dig Dig Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 'They've had the heart ripped out of them' - Garry Neville on Saints just now on Sky. Looking more like that by the day Koeman also mentions the impact of changes over the last 13 months. Clearly hasn't had a look on here as what happened a year ago is irrelevant, apparently.
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Can't wait for the ungrateful sod to leave! This
mrfahaji Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 I wish it wasn't Spurs. I know they're a big club but they're not a great team at the moment, we should have aspirations of surpassing them. However, when I look at their team, I'm surprised that a Defensive Midfielder is what they're looking for - they have Bentaleb and Dembele and are currently playing Dembele on the wing. If he goes I will try and take the pragmatic view that we've taken £20m from Spurs for them to have a minor upgrade in their team, while we have already got players to replace in Romeu and Clasie... But still hope he doesn't go and if he does, will want him to fail miserably or have a career ending injury in his first game.
Mr X Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 bet he refused to play today rather than "not being mentally fit"
Saint-Armstrong Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 He's a Spaniard... A mighty Spaniard... Oriol, Romeu He's a Spaniard... A mighty Spaniard... Oriol, Romeu A Romeu A Romeu A Romeu A Romeu A Romeu...
Chez Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Absolutely no surprise that he wants to move on. When a player signs and he says "I want to train hard, get in the first team and then we'll see where that takes me" I think the writing is on the wall already that the fella sees the club as a stepping stone. As soon as he started backtracking over his comments about being more than happy to join Arsenal earlier in the summer you knew it wouldn't be long.
DT Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Tbh it wouldn't hurt as much if he went to arsenal. Take the money. But not spurs
Chez Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 bet he refused to play today rather than "not being mentally fit" It's like the three card trick of getting a move. Talk to the press back home dropping come and get me hints, have you agent tout you to the bigger clubs, then kick up a fuss, miss games and say your heads on the wrong place to force the club to reconsider its hardline "thou shall not leave" stance.
austsaint Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 I hope Wanyame stays; but not as much as I hope Mane does - he is the creative force in our side. Romeu man-of-the-match.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Koeman post-Norwich: "Victor is in difficult situation. At the moment we need people with total commitment… he's not for sale."
mikeyc Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 "The same answer for Victor and Sadio - we do not sell. They will stay at Southampton, I am 100% sure," RK said. "They need to respect their contracts and show the commitment that Sadio is showing."
Saint_Tony Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Deal could be done by tomorrow. We may be taking Lamela. I think Dembele would be a perfect fit for us, but doesn't look like it's happening. Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Deal could be done by tomorrow. We may be taking Lamela. I think Dembele would be a perfect fit for us, but doesn't look like it's happening. Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk Itk?
Convict Colony Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Deal could be done by tomorrow. We may be taking Lamela. I think Dembele would be a perfect fit for us, but doesn't look like it's happening. Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk Dembele injured himself yesterday.
simo Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 "The same answer for Victor and Sadio - we do not sell. They will stay at Southampton, I am 100% sure," RK said. "They need to respect their contracts and show the commitment that Sadio is showing." Good enough for me!
DT Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Dembele injured himself yesterday. In the stomach? ;-)
badgerx16 Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Deal could be done by tomorrow. We may be taking Lamela. I think Dembele would be a perfect fit for us, but doesn't look like it's happening. Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk So RK is fibbing ?
Saint Charlie Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Very clear from RK that Wanyama and Mane are staying. Also very clear that despite many on here saying Wanyama is happy or that its media made up bull****: he does want to leave.
Mr X Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 We may as well get rid of him now so we have longer to find a quality replacement, its clear that even if we force him to stay this season he wont be here next so what's the point
Matthew Le God Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 We may as well get rid of him now so we have longer to find a quality replacement, its clear that even if we force him to stay this season he wont be here next so what's the point Similar was happening with Schneiderlin last summer, we kept him for another year and I'm sure you'll agree he had a good 2014/15... wouldn't you...?
Mr X Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Similar was happening with Schneiderlin last summer, we kept him for another year and I'm sure you'll agree he had a good 2014/15... wouldn't you...? yes not bad but he left after that anyway so..............
Pancake Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Itk? Doubt it. Tony seems obsessed with Sours, continually posts about our players goof there (Morgan, Clyne, JRod have all been "nailed on" iirc). Possibly a Spud in disguise.
Saint Charlie Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 @samcunningham: Koeman asked if Wanyama handed in a transfer request. 'We had a meeting and that’s true,' he replied. #saintsfc Andy Durman needs a new source!
Matthew Le God Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 (edited) Post match interview with BBC Radio Solent, Wanyama discussed at around 2:30... Koeman states (yet again) that Mane and Wanyama won't be sold this window. Edited 30 August, 2015 by Matthew Le God
Avenue Saint Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Deal could be done by tomorrow. We may be taking Lamela. I think Dembele would be a perfect fit for us, but doesn't look like it's happening. Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk why do you always chat so much **** you prik? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Saint-Armstrong Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Koeman has suggested in his press conference that Victor speaks to Morgan and looks at what happened with Morgan and learns from it.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 Koeman has suggested in his press conference that Victor speaks to Morgan and looks at what happened with Morgan and learns from it. Nail meet head.
Saint Charlie Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 @samcunningham: Koeman warning to Wanyama: 'If he keeps going like this, then he is playing with his own future. That’s not good.’ #saintsfc @samcunningham: Koeman: 'It’s good for Victor to talk to Morgan. Because Morgan I think is more happy now than he was last year.' #saintsfc
DuncanRG Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 He 'has' a Spurs 'contact'. White Hart Lane toilets cleaned once an hour, Saint Tony understands
Mr X Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 @samcunningham: Koeman warning to Wanyama: 'If he keeps going like this, then he is playing with his own future. That’s not good.’ #saintsfc @samcunningham: Koeman: 'It’s good for Victor to talk to Morgan. Because Morgan I think is more happy now than he was last year.' #saintsfc of course morgans more happy now than last year he's at arguably the biggest club in the world
Soggy Bottom Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 of course morgans more happy now than last year he's at arguably the biggest club in the world I think that's the point RK is making stay and wait for a top 4 club not Spuds
Saint Charlie Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 of course morgans more happy now than last year he's at arguably the biggest club in the world Exactly. Not Spurs. He stayed an extra year and then got a much better move.
Mr X Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 I think that's the point RK is making stay and wait for a top 4 club not Spuds but victor isnt good enough for a top four club if we are honest
Donatello Posted 30 August, 2015 Posted 30 August, 2015 I think that's the point RK is making stay and wait for a top 4 club not Spuds This. I cannot conceive how someone couldn't understand this/his meaning.
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