Saint Charlie Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 So having just said that you don't know Vics state of mind, here you say he clearly isn't happy??? I don't think he is happy but I don't know his exact state of mind, neither do you. What I know his he has ample opportunity to comment on the rumours but hasn't. He has unfollowed the Saints Twitter like Berahino, another Spurs target. Presumably through instruction. You say the club has said he is happy. They clearly haven't. We are both commenting to suit our respective agendas but there is more evidence suggesting he wants to move than there is that he wants to stay IMO. We won't let him leave this window anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 They may not have used the word happy but that doesn't mean that he is suicidal and gagging to leave does it? You said the club said Wanyama is happy to stay The club have not said Wanyama is happy to stay. FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 Him and Mane will both be off in the summer, Triple wages playing for more recognized clubs it's a no brainer Saints in comparison cannot compete on that level currently...... £50 Million for both good bit of lolly for us means we can rebuild again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluto Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 The bellend responsible for all this spurs stuff https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-mcgoohan/11/a06/108 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 Him and Mane will both be off in the summer, Triple wages playing for more recognized clubs it's a no brainer Saints in comparison cannot compete on that level currently...... £50 Million for both good bit of lolly for us means we can rebuild again its a no brainer for the owners but as a fan whether the club gets 30m or 50m it does not give me more entertainment or bonus. It is about time the club dropped its admission prices. We are paying top money to watch players develop not to enjoy the finished product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 The bellend responsible for all this spurs stuff https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-mcgoohan/11/a06/108 ......his CV states that he advises clubs on " crisis management " ..which presumably means creating a crisis and not solving one ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 The bellend responsible for all this spurs stuff https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-mcgoohan/11/a06/108 He used to work for Square 1..... isn't that the PR company that Cortese used to use when at Saints....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 A week ago in a press conference when asked if he was in talks to extend his contract he said something along the lines that he just played and his Agent sorted that stuff out. So has his Agent told him that this weeek he's to be unhappy? Sent from my GT-I8190 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 A week ago in a press conference when asked if he was in talks to extend his contract he said something along the lines that he just played and his Agent sorted that stuff out. So has his Agent told him that this weeek he's to be unhappy? Sent from my GT-I8190 using Tapatalk He basically sidestepped the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 He used to work for Square 1..... isn't that the PR company that Cortese used to use when at Saints....? Yes - our friend David Bick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 Can't disagree with that though unlike Vic I do have the ability to hand in my notice and then leave after 3 months if I so wish. You stick to your contract of employment and let Vic stick to his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 http://mobile.wba.co.uk//news/article/wba-albion-berahino-2651741.aspx Interesting comments from WBA Chairman on the Spurs approach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 http://mobile.wba.co.uk//news/article/wba-albion-berahino-2651741.aspx Interesting comments from WBA Chairman on the Spurs approach... Best way to deal with it Abit like Morgan last season, not looking to stand in the players way but it's on the clubs terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 if a player is not happy at a club and wants to move on then surely that player would know that at the end of the season or at the very least before coming back for pre season training. All this bull***t about wanting a move at this stage of the season and transfer window should be met with the short shrift it deserves! And, if they refuse to play while they 'get their head sorted' then fine, but don't be surprised to still be sat on the bench when you're 'ready' to play again (ie, when the window's closed and you haven't been sold)!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 Funny old way of dealing with it, from a players point of view Go on strike and refuse to play, why would another club touch a player like that ??, and who to say said player wouldn't do it again to "that" club. You'd think they would want to show his interested club what he's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 ...and that's why Victor won't go. If Spurs can't/won't find that money for a front line 15-20 goal striker then they definitely won't for big old lumbering Victor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 http://mobile.wba.co.uk//news/article/wba-albion-berahino-2651741.aspx Interesting comments from WBA Chairman on the Spurs approach... Thats exactly what you want to hear from your chairman. Levy really thinks he is the nuts transfer dealer, w@nker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3207372/Victor-Wanyama-tells-Southampton-unhappy-wants-leave-midfielder-refusing-discuss-new-contract.html A great player on his day but no point keeping someone here who clearly doesn't want to be here his performances of late have shown his head isn't here, he will inevitably do a lallana and throw his toys out the pram losing vic and spider man will be a huge void to fill, maybe the club will be stronger this time after having already sold spider man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3207372/Victor-Wanyama-tells-Southampton-unhappy-wants-leave-midfielder-refusing-discuss-new-contract.html A great player on his day but no point keeping someone here who clearly doesn't want to be here his performances of late have shown his head isn't here, he will inevitably do a lallana and throw his toys out the pram losing vic and spider man will be a huge void to fill, maybe the club will be stronger this time after having already sold spider man! Oh do f**k off. It's just Jones rehashing the usual boll_oxs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 12.5m to 18m in two seasons? Is that all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3207372/Victor-Wanyama-tells-Southampton-unhappy-wants-leave-midfielder-refusing-discuss-new-contract.html A great player on his day but no point keeping someone here who clearly doesn't want to be here his performances of late have shown his head isn't here, he will inevitably do a lallana and throw his toys out the pram losing vic and spider man will be a huge void to fill, maybe the club will be stronger this time after having already sold spider man! This is from five days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 I know that some of the posters on here will not like this because it doesn't suit their agenda, but I think - at the moment - that we have an owner, a Board and a management team that have a great deal of integrity and that they are all pulling together for the good of the club. With you on that. Especially compared to some of the past holders of said posts. Can you imagine if we had of been sold to the hedge fund lot that took over Coventry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3207372/Victor-Wanyama-tells-Southampton-unhappy-wants-leave-midfielder-refusing-discuss-new-contract.html A great player on his day but no point keeping someone here who clearly doesn't want to be here his performances of late have shown his head isn't here, he will inevitably do a lallana and throw his toys out the pram losing vic and spider man will be a huge void to fill, maybe the club will be stronger this time after having already sold spider man! I'm a believer in seeing some direct quotes from people - that article doesn't even have 1 not 1. Hardly credible is it. But hey you keep believing what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 So it seems you want us to buy one midfielder and one centre back for about £8 - £12m like we did with Wanyama and Lovren. Well, that's what we've done with Virgil (TBC) and Clasie. If we'd done that and no other business would that have been okay as "fewer but higher quality" business? Our other signings are squad building - Caulker for Gardos, Juanmi for Elia. And international left back. They don't feel like harbingers of a catastrophic malaise in our transfer business. Here to do a job, all of which could turn out to be effective gambles. This time last year we loaned in a full back and half this forum went on suicide watch. This time last year we spent £12m (which seems to be your touchstone for "quality") on a centre forward and many on this firum still haven't got over it. It's a tough old gig this transfer lark. I'm happy to back the manager and Les to do it right. I, for one, am looking forward to the WHY DIDNT WE GIVE ROMEU A TWELVE YEAR CONTRACT? weeping in a couple of years. Don't be such an optimist. It will start next summer. Guys, he really isn't very well to be honest. First fear was appendicitis. Maybe the illness is a "blessing" if he could not pass a medical right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 The Solent/Saints Player link dropped just as Blackmore asked RK about the Wanyama situation. Anyone know what he actually said? Although to be honest, after hearing his analysis of the performance tonight anything he did say I would not take seriously, sounds like the meds for his achilles are affecting his thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 The board have shown that they'll always let the player get their own way, sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 The board have shown that they'll always let the player get their own way, sooner or later. Yes it's a bit embarrassing how West Brom and Everton have both been standing firm. It'll be even more embarrassing if they keep hold of their two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 Yes it's a bit embarrassing how West Brom and Everton have both been standing firm. It'll be even more embarrassing if they keep hold of their two. They'll both be gone within 12 months as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 27 August, 2015 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2015 From the Koran interview sounds like there is a problem with Wanyama. Wonder if we will see him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 From the Koran interview WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 August, 2015 Share Posted 27 August, 2015 From the Koran interview sounds like there is a problem with Wanyama. Wonder if we will see him now. Koeman said the situations are difficult, he said last year in the difficult transfer period (with mass speculation) we only played 3 times and this season we have played 7. He said he doesn't know what has happened with Victor the last week, he is ill and is at home but he will have to see in the next few days what will happen when he speaks to him. Clearly from what he said there is an issue there more than him being ill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 Wanyama let us down when we needed him, so the **** can **** off as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 Picture this morning of a grumpy looking Wanyama getting ready for training with Mayuka, the outcast banished to train with the U21s... Big positive however that his stomach infection which prevented him playing in a massive match last night has cleared up in time for a return to training today. Must have been a false alarm or some excellent treatment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 Picture this morning of a grumpy looking Wanyama getting ready for training with Mayuka, the outcast banished to train with the U21s... Big positive however that his stomach infection which prevented him playing in a massive match last night has cleared up in time for a return to training today. Must have been a false alarm or some excellent treatment! got a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 Wanyama let us down when we needed him, so the **** can **** off as I'm concerned. Yeah because we can afford to be without him on last nights display can't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 got a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 He was ill? Do you go to work when ill? Stomach infection one day then fine to train the next morning? Could be. But a one day stomach infection seems unlikely to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 Stomach infection one day then fine to train the next morning? Could be. But a one day stomach infection seems unlikely to me. Depends on the cause of it, few bacteria and a big dose of antibiotics will knock it out quickly. Nasty virus...not so much. Don't forget these lads have droves of docs to sort them out whenever it's necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 'Ooh, my aching stomach please sign me Spurs' Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 I've had a dodgy stomach / diarrhoea that only lasted a day or 2. Everyone has, but just seems a bit too convenient when there is the other stuff in the background. We will see, but he may have some ****ed off teammates given it didnt go well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 Is the first team training today? Normal or light/recovery training? Could be he's with the u21s simply to get a proper session in. In fact, do we know for certain he's training with the u21s? Does the photo provide concrete proof (beyond the fact that he was near Mayuka for a bit)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 I don't get the Wanyama thing,he left a club that was playing CL football and came to us,we achieved our highest ever league position yet now he wants out to Spurs?? who also can't offer CL football and do not look even remotely close to it either,he is a good player but not top 4 player I would say closer to 5th-8th and thats what we are aiming at ...so what is it down to more money??? no doubt the new contract talks would have seen his wage grow considerably. The whole lack of ambition thing is surely not even a factor as we are making progress as a club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 I don't get the Wanyama thing,he left a club that was playing CL football and came to us,we achieved our highest ever league position yet now he wants out to Spurs?? who also can't offer CL football and do not look even remotely close to it either,he is a good player but not top 4 player I would say closer to 5th-8th and thats what we are aiming at ...so what is it down to more money??? no doubt the new contract talks would have seen his wage grow considerably. The whole lack of ambition thing is surely not even a factor as we are making progress as a club Who says he wants out and a transfer to Spurs, is that not just press speculation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 Please provide your source saying he wants out? (Other than press speculation) He hasn't denied it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 He hasn't denied it.... I've never denied being Jack the Ripper or the Boston Strangler...doesn't make me either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 I don't get the Wanyama thing,he left a club that was playing CL football and came to us,we achieved our highest ever league position yet now he wants out to Spurs?? who also can't offer CL football and do not look even remotely close to it either,he is a good player but not top 4 player I would say closer to 5th-8th and thats what we are aiming at ...so what is it down to more money??? no doubt the new contract talks would have seen his wage grow considerably. The whole lack of ambition thing is surely not even a factor as we are making progress as a club Yes We DO lack ambition. Successful Teams IMPROVE their sides, NOT sell them off every window and try to get cheaper make do's IMHO Spurs WILL get Wanyama I just hope Townsend doesn't get that nasty stomach bug like Big Vic, otherwise it could jeopardise everything Perhaps we could throw in JRod ..... saves Levy coming back in January Or perhaps we could groundshare, then our players wont have to move too far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 Clyne and Morgan had 1 year left on there contract so we were pretty powerless to stop them,we replaced them with Cedric and Romeu/Clasie. Its ok going out getting big names as cover for all these positions but if you are not offering a guaranteed starting place or ridiculous wages why would they come ? You may think we lack ambition but we have a good depth of quality players on the bench,we will add 1 or 2 before the window shuts and once the team has gelled I can't see why we can't be a strong if not stronger than last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 He was ill? Do you go to work when ill? Believe what you want. I know that if I was a fit young sportsman I wouldn't let a bug stop me playing in the biggest game of my Southampton career. Only muppets equate playing football to a job. They are sportsmen there is a world of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 Clyne and Morgan had 1 year left on there contract so we were pretty powerless to stop them,we replaced them with Cedric and Romeu/Clasie. Its ok going out getting big names as cover for all these positions but if you are not offering a guaranteed starting place or ridiculous wages why would they come ? You may think we lack ambition but we have a good depth of quality players on the bench,we will add 1 or 2 before the window shuts and once the team has gelled I can't see why we can't be a strong if not stronger than last season Morgan had more than one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 August, 2015 Share Posted 28 August, 2015 I've never denied being Jack the Ripper or the Boston Strangler...doesn't make me either of them. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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