Saint86 Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Ridiculous to think we cannot keep players here, or that we just bend over backwards when a player decides he wants to leave or a team wants one of our players. I cannot stand Levy, but he does a brilliant job at getting a lot of money for their players, much like we do tbf. I don't think he is good enough for Man Utd, especially as I cannot see him displacing Depay. He is replaceable, just not this window, we have to keep him. If you keep on losing players, you eventually dont get so lucky with replacements and you end up not scoring enough goals (I am genuinely worried about that for this season), or leaking too many. I'm not saying we're particularly in danger of getting relegated this season, but many teams have improved and we have got considerably worse. This is Les Reed we are talking about, i'm amazed CB fry has come down on you like a tonne of bricks already. Thou shalt not raise a dissenting voice against the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 The big 5 plus Spurs constantly try to unsettle players at all other clubs so they agitate for a move. At last some X-PL players are coming out & saying that the big 5 plus Spurs get the decisions from referees (Etherington, Shearer etc on twitter). The CL/PL is designed to keep the big clubs happy, just look at the seeding for the draws. Its self perpetuating b o 11 o c k s & I am not even sure why I bother with it anymore. Players would rather sit on the bench & bank the cash than play the game they must have once upon a time loved to play for playing sake. I am not in the least bit surprised other clubs are interested in Mane. The boy as bags of potential, but is a long way from the finished article. If he goes, he goes. Nothing we can do about it whilst our best paid player is on £60k pw. There is no integrity in the game. The arrogance from the likes of Mourinho etc is embarrassing. Two games into the season & im already ****ed off with it. Right, I will go & slit my wrists now!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 baines (year before), McCarthy, Barkley... Who bid for Barkley I missed that one? Baines was Moyes wasn't it they did sell fellani to Man U at the same time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Well glad that has been cleared up. Sadly our best players are always going to be subject to rumours each window. If it unsettles us (just look at this thread!) then it must be really unsettling for the player(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 The window should shut on the night before the first game. Really should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Link? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3147199/Tottenham-swoop-James-McCarthy-midfielder-frustrated-Everton-Aaron-Lennon-included-deal.html http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-prepare-bid-frustrated-everton-6049134 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/553515/Tottenham-James-McCarthy-Everton-swap http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/02/leighton-baines-everton-manchester-united http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2396961/Everton-reject-28m-bid-Manchester-United-Marouane-Fellaini-Leighton-Baines.html http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-city-transfer-gossip-50m-8941345 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/470521/Liverpool-s-38m-Barkley-bid-We-ve-already-REJECTED-50m-from-United-Roberto-Martinez http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/west-ham/11750833/West-Ham-prepare-second-bid-for-Everton-star-Kevin-Mirallas.html http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-ham-set-make-second-6102829 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33977836 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/9954705/everton-reject-16330m-chelsea-bid-for-john-stones http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/9897222/manchester-united-target-evertons-seamus-coleman http://www.thenational.ae/sport/football/manchester-united-lodge-bid-for-morgan-schneiderlin-offer-jonny-evans-to-everton-for-seamus-coleman that is baines, coleman, stones, miralles, mccarthy and barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Happy to confirm that we are in no way ruffling Manchester United's feathers. Ok we aren't going to ever catch them anytime in the near future. But last season for some time we were above them and I'd say wining at old Trafford might have annoyed then some what. They and others from the big 6 just want to ensure we can't compete when it comes to playing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Well glad that has been cleared up. Sadly our best players are always going to be subject to rumours each window. If it unsettles us (just look at this thread!) then it must be really unsettling for the player(s). The window should shut on the night before the first game. Really should. You'd think our owners would have some sort of Alpine retreat where they could lock the squad away for the summer with no contact with the outside world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Who bid for Barkley I missed that one? . martinez confirmed united bid up to £50m for barkley last year or so ago. it was rejected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Sir Robin Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Obviously would hate to see him go, but if we got £25m+ plus Jakuzi or whatever his name is on loan with an option to buy, then also bought Austin with some of the proceeds, I'd be quite happy tbh. One thing we can be certain of is that the club have several ideal replacements identified for every player in any case, so we shouldn't really be panicking anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Ok we aren't going to ever catch them anytime in the near future. But last season for some time we were above them and I'd say wining at old Trafford might have annoyed then some what. They and others from the big 6 just want to ensure we can't compete when it comes to playing them. No, they want to buy good players for their team. They're not bidding for Scott Dann so they can win headers when they go to Selhurst Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 I'd swap him for Morgan. Apologies if already suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 martinez confirmed united bid up to £50m for barkley last year or so ago. it was rejected Wow. You really are ****ing stupid aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Wow. You really are ****ing stupid aren't you? excuse me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_G Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Sadio is the "Mane" man at Saints and is definitely our biggest goal threat. We can't afford to sell him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm3ybmDe3Ig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 martinez confirmed united bid up to £50m for barkley last year or so ago. it was rejected Not saying he didn't but do you have a link for that? I'd be massively surprised if any club other than city could turn down 50m bids for a player who is pretty inconsistent. As for mane would be gutted to see him go. Genuinely feel there is little good coming from just getting these players for just one season all the time. Creates a disconnect between players and the team and as others have said luck with signings will eventually run out surely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Sounds like you have a bit of a nervous disposition pal, wouldn't want you along side me in the trenches. Last year you cried and wailed , if he goes it will be bad but calm down and get some perspective. Ha, whatever. Thing is, all the people who "played it cool" over the summer probably acted like that to appear so because for some reason, a reputation means something to them. On an internet forum. Reality is, they were probably not so confident it'd work out. As it happened, everything did go swimmingly but I think there were plenty more fans concerned than unconcerned in some of the bad weeks last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 So we believe the mail now? Link? Fortunately, the clue is in the post.....however it doesn't actually say that....it states we've told them to increase their offer..... Manchester United made shock £15m bid for Sadio Mane while stalling on Pedro... but are told to up fee to £25m to land Saints star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Very good post. I apologise, but the phrase "complacency" keeps springing to mind. Certain people at SMS have got too full of themselves. They need to come up with a strategy to make the club more attractive to new players AND to say f**k off to the big 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Seriously, whats the f**king point any more ? 12 days of the window left, and we are doing f**k all to fend off big clubs and the media. At the same time we are p*ssing about on making good our defensive losses. We'll go for 20M+ and replace him for 3M. Too much complacency at SMS. Feel really, really low... We will get relegated if we are not careful, mark my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Hmm. I guess no one saw this coming. Meaning its very likely to be nonsense and I am inclined to believe the theory that this is news intended to deflect the from the Pedro debacle. That said, Mane's agent will be absolutely loving this development. Wasn't he quoted as saying Mane would be at a Champions League club before too long last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Not saying he didn't but do you have a link for that? I'd be massively surprised if any club other than city could turn down 50m bids for a player who is pretty inconsistent. As for mane would be gutted to see him go. Genuinely feel there is little good coming from just getting these players for just one season all the time. Creates a disconnect between players and the team and as others have said luck with signings will eventually run out surely! martinez we already turned down a £50million bid from (Manchester) United so we’re not going to take £38million from Liverpool. last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 We will get relegated if we are not careful, mark my words. To be fair your words have been well and truly marked for a number of years.... the annual "happy to finish 17th" quote exemplifies this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Saints to BBC Solent. No Bid - Not for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Saints to BBC Solent. No Bid - Not for sale. this butters my parsnips, f'sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 (edited) @SimonPeach: #SaintsFC have no intention of selling Sadio Mané - I am told no deal is on the table & there's been no contact from #MUFC That's not what the BBC say....they are saying that SFC have acknowledged interest from M.U. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33995543 Sort it out Auntie. So even when there's no interest there's interest. We'll see in about 12 days time I guess. Edited 19 August, 2015 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 The big 5 plus Spurs constantly try to unsettle players at all other clubs so they agitate for a move. At last some X-PL players are coming out & saying that the big 5 plus Spurs get the decisions from referees (Etherington, Shearer etc on twitter). The CL/PL is designed to keep the big clubs happy, just look at the seeding for the draws. Its self perpetuating b o 11 o c k s & I am not even sure why I bother with it anymore. Players would rather sit on the bench & bank the cash than play the game they must have once upon a time loved to play for playing sake. I am not in the least bit surprised other clubs are interested in Mane. The boy as bags of potential, but is a long way from the finished article. If he goes, he goes. Nothing we can do about it whilst our best paid player is on £60k pw. There is no integrity in the game. The arrogance from the likes of Mourinho etc is embarrassing. Two games into the season & im already ****ed off with it. Right, I will go & slit my wrists now!!! Maybe it's time the little 14 formed a voting block and faced up to the six and Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 That's not what the BBC say....they are saying that SFC have acknowledged interest from M.U. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33995543 Sort it out Auntie. So even when there's no interest there's interest. We'll see in about 12 days time I guess. I've just watched South Today and that's exactly what they said as a direct quote from the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Why doesn't this happen to Swansea? Similar size club, similar standing in the modern game. Apart from Bony i cant think of any other high profile departures. Anyway just musing really - glad that is looks like a non starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 £30 million pay up or f**k off simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 You'd think our owners would have some sort of Alpine retreat where they could lock the squad away for the summer with no contact with the outside world Where Eagles Dare was filmed in this castle, on the A10 between Villach and Salzburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Apparently the club have said that neither Fonte and Mane are for sale so no need to wet the bed tonight lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommog Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Why doesn't this happen to Swansea? Similar size club, similar standing in the modern game. Apart from Bony i cant think of any other high profile departures. Anyway just musing really - glad that is looks like a non starter. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Why doesn't this happen to Swansea? Similar size club, similar standing in the modern game. Apart from Bony i cant think of any other high profile departures. Anyway just musing really - glad that is looks like a non starter. Perhaps the top teams think our players are better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Perhaps the top teams think our players are better? they have a major trophy to their name, maybe we have underachieved if most of our players are/were better? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Why doesn't this happen to Swansea? Similar size club, similar standing in the modern game. Apart from Bony i cant think of any other high profile departures. Anyway just musing really - glad that is looks like a non starter. And Sigurdsson, in a similar way to how we lost Toby. Michu sort of, until he got injured. Swansea don't really have any high profile players, just a solid squad with a decent team ethic. If they had anyone like Clyne or Morgan they would lose them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 they have a major trophy to their name, maybe we have underachieved if most of our players are/were better? ;) I don't see what a trophy has to do with it? Doesn't matter how many trophies they win if the bidding club is interested in other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 And Sigurdsson, in a similar way to how we lost Toby. Michu sort of, until he got injured. Swansea don't really have any high profile players, just a solid squad with a decent team ethic. If they had anyone like Clyne or Morgan they would lose them too. Not to mention Ben Davies who went from Swansea to Spurs last summer, there was Vorm as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Why doesn't this happen to Swansea? Similar size club, similar standing in the modern game. Apart from Bony i cant think of any other high profile departures. This Swansea haven't had as many players the top clubs would want as Saints, but they have still lost the following when the big boys come calling... Wilfried Bony to Man City Ben Davies to Spurs Michael Vorm to Spurs Scott Sinclair to Man City Joe Allen to Liverpool Brendan Rodgers to Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Whatever is happening all this is bound to have an unsettling effect on Mane and right now that is a big concern. To my mind he is our match winner and to lose him would be pretty disastrous. I am sure the club will try and hold on to him but he has an excitable nature and I am not sure he would react well to being denied a move. Probably should have thought about that before he signed a contract with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 We weren't "interested" in selling Lallana, Lovren, Clyne, Walcott, Oxlade, Lambert, Bale either. Not saying we'll definitely sell Mane, but the club saying we're not interested in selling means absolutely nothing. The club could absolutely quash any speculation in a split second. As they have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 never a dull moment in SFC land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 So in fact Swansea do have this problem and so will Everton when Barkley, Coleman and Lukaku decide they want to play Champions league football. Mirallas won't sign a new deal atm and only has one year left, he's one of their best players. Not saying I think Mane will go this window but if and when they're good enough they will go if they really want to and the 'big top 4 club' really wants them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 As they have done. Never stops the speculation though does it...that's down to the nature of yer average football follower. Only the end of the transfer window will put a stop to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 I wonder how Celtic feel about us being linked with their best players in the summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Apparently the club have said that neither Fonte and Mane are for sale so no need to wet the bed tonight lads. I'd like to see that as an actual quote from the club (which I expect I will in the next x hours). As I haven't I'm still prepared to believe it as I cannot imagine that we would want to sell either. Mane is going nowhere soon unless of course manure come up with circa £50 mil and they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 I wonder how Celtic feel about us being linked with their best players in the summer? They probably see it as an annual event similar to the Edinburgh Festival and the start of the Grouse Season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 I'd like to see that as an actual quote from the club (which I expect I will in the next x hours). As I haven't I'm still prepared to believe it as I cannot imagine that we would want to sell either. Mane is going nowhere soon unless of course manure come up with circa £50 mil and they won't. Oh of course we don't want to sell, outcome and effect depend on how Mané reacts though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 We would be nuts to sell him for anything less than £25mill and I doubt Utd would pay that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Oh of course we don't want to sell, outcome and effect depend on how Mané reacts though. Whilst it is no doubt run by his agent/representatives, his Facebook page has 3 posts about Man U within 2 hrs. I think it safe to say that his agent is keen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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