stevewanyamasfcs Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Looking odds on for a relegation fight, especially with the European distraction to contend with. No sh*t sherlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 all well and good in holland where the top sides/all sides seem to have a high turn over of players. but we are pretty unique in England at the mo. not as if all the other middling sides sell their best 3-5 players every summer. Just does not happen It would do if they had 3-5 players that champions league clubs wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangermouth Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Now on the Beeb and understood to be more than rumour. No doubt Morgan told them how good he is. Hope Les tells them to f(k off. (Unless it's £50m and Wilson ofc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Durham on TalkSport talking about a "Heads Gone" if United buy Mane. God I hate that c***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O_RLY Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33995543 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 19 August, 2015 Author Share Posted 19 August, 2015 I had a little look at "attacking midfield / wingers" we've been linked with this summer, in the event of needing a rabbit out of the hat... -- Rafa Silva -- Juan Quintero -- Ola John -- Matt Phillips -- Quincy Promes -- Ondrej Duda -- Nathan Redmond -- Albert Rusnak -- Max Gradel -- Dennis Praet * MLG Pedantic disclaimer: I'm aware some of these may have moved already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Can't sell our best player this late in the window. Simple as. If we do, then I would say our peak has already been achieved. Simply can't sustain this turnover of players. Wouldn't suprise me if Mane pushed very hard for a move either... Also hate how United do their business in the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diabolus Ex Machina Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 football news/main news is 24 hour these days. He is clearly a major player in our side. The club/ronald could easily tweet about this and say it is rubbish or what ever they do The club must have known at some point in the last few days or so that it would make the press. It is Man united ffs True though hasn't really been our style recently. Took a few hours for Wolves to do it with Afobe and I don't seem to recall Everton making many press releases about Stones. Seems to mainly have come from Martinez at press conferences etc... I'm sure we will hear something from the club in due course. Whether we like it or not is another matter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 When are some people going to get their heads around modern football and stop this constant whining over transfers. It is going to keep happening ,clubs are allowed to be interested in our players, every single player will want to move if a bigger club comes in and , more importantly, the board, Ron,Les,The Tea lady, uncle tom cobbly and all at club, do not want it to happen. It is not their fault, it is not part of our business model to sell players, stop blaming them. The powers that be have been very smart and employed a manager who comes from a country & culture where this happens and people just get on with it. No throwing their toys out of pram like some English managers do , just move on and get on with it. I suggest some of ours supporters adopt the same attitude instead of crying about it every time a player is linked with a move away. Supprters aren't 'crying', but are understandably fed up of continually selling our best players. If this one goes ahead, I reckon it could be the straw that breaks the camel's back. It is a strategy that is doomed to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Looking odds on for a relegation fight, especially with the European distraction to contend with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 One thing is for sure. Ralph isn't scared and feels complimented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_saints Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 MELTDOWNNNNNN honestly though, I come on here hoping to read that we have signed a CB and end up reading this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 It would do if they had 3-5 players that champions league clubs wanted. what do other clubs do. Palace immediately whacked a £30m price tag on bolasie, WBA told spurs to get lost, Everton have kept the big boys away a few times with Baines, McCarthy, Barkley and (at the mo) Stones. Spurs have kept Kane despite united wanting him plus the countless bids we will never know about we even drew a line at morgan last year. We should do so now with Mane after losing Morgan, Clyne and missing out on Toby. Plus the real lack of quality additions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 God I'm fed up of football. Just **** nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 We've got him to another 3 years and Les and co should be doing everything to support the manager towards achieving our objectives. Yes, we will and do sell players to bigger clubs but you have to balance it with the continuity and balance of the team first and foremost. We drew a line at Schneiderlin last summer so clearly it can be done. It depends on the player. Some are professional enough to get on with it and play, Morgan, Stones , but can you honestly see Mane being like that . Or will he sulk, cause issues and pick up " injuries" every other game? I'm sure Ron will be pragmatic and les will back him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Abroad Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 LVG is a WUM, just jealous his ego was hurt with the Pedro snub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Mane will be snapped up next summer if not before. He is going to be a star player. I would not be surprised if Chelsea did not come in for him.John Terry said he was the best player he came up against last season, and no doubt Mourinho would notice. We lack pace up front, to lose mane's would be a disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 30m would do it. Not english, but he is young and improving. Could be a very good player for them. Could be a very profitable window indeed. That's the main thing right? Rodriguez/Pelle/Tadic would still be alright. But yeah people would start to get really annoyed with it all. But let's be honest, Mane might well be interested and force though a move. Schneiderlin may have reacted well to being forced to stay, but many don't, especially when they haven't been here long. Looking at the club, we don't seem to like to spend beyond what we bring in, despite the huge TV money so any big offers will be accepted for anyone. Everton will sell Stones for a silly price as he's English, but it's rare anyone can hold on to a player, and if they do it's usually just for one season. Pretty much how I see it as well. He's an important player for us but everyone has their price and I think he'll be off eventually anyway. RK eluded to a few attitude problems from him at times last season so I think (and this is a bit judgement) that he'd probably spend most of the season sulking if we blocked a move - that is, if he wants to move in the first place. At the end of the day, he's not irreplaceable but ideally I would keep him as he's a very good player and seems to be improving every week. The problem with that is, to quote the Star Wars prequels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbenny Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 I think we all need to calm down a little. It's a rumour at the moment. Just a rumour. For all we know the club might already have told them no, hence the reason why nobody at the club feels the need to tweet/facebook/make a you tube video/write a letter or phone us all in person to explain what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 I must admit - these bloody transferwindows and the Big boys chopping us to pieces every window kills the the love for football piece by piece : ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 all well and good in holland where the top sides/all sides seem to have a high turn over of players. but we are pretty unique in England at the mo. not as if all the other middling sides sell their best 3-5 players every summer. Just does not happen Saints in the last 2 seasons have had more higher quality players in their squad than any other club outside those finishing in the top 6/7. Champions League sides aren't rushing to buy lots of Stoke, Palace, West Ham etc players because they don't have many (if any) players they'd want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 I think after 40+ years of following Saints that i'm close to giving up on football altogether. No clubs can compete with the top 4/5 sides and when you do get close to having a side that will give the big boys a run for the money you get raided. The players themselves are nothing but greedy mercenaries who dont give a jot about the fans or the club that gave them their chance to sign. Yes i'm ****ed off, but whats the point if we cant say NO or the players we signed from oblivion sulk until they get their Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 I used to hate now Man Utd without really knowing why. Now I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 TBF, 15m + Januzaj would be a pretty good deal. I don't think that's a good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davayy Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Does no one else find it amusing that this story "breaks" merely hours after Pedro to Chelsea is on? The fact the bid was made LAST WEEK, yet no one ran such a story says enough for me. This is just United panicking and going to the press to try to force a move. I have no doubts we turned the bid down immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 It depends on the player. Some are professional enough to get on with it and play, Morgan, Stones , but can you honestly see Mane being like that . Or will he sulk, cause issues and pick up " injuries" every other game? I'm sure Ron will be pragmatic and les will back him. Well it didn't look that way for Schneiderlin, not at first. Stroppy tweet, missed training and had to he given the weekend off so missed a pre-season game. Hardly professional BUT he ended up playing and playing well because it's as much in their interest to do so than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Usual w**kers mithering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 (edited) I must admit - these bloody transferwindows and the Big boys chopping us to pieces every window kills the the love for football piece by piece : ( I think after 40+ years of following Saints that i'm close to giving up on football altogether. No clubs can compete with the top 4/5 sides and when you do get close to having a side that will give the big boys a run for the money you get raided. The players themselves are nothing but greedy mercenaries who dont give a jot about the fans or the club that gave them their chance to sign. Yes i'm ****ed off, but whats the point if we cant say NO or the players we signed from oblivion sulk until they get their I bet Celtic fans feel the same about Southampton... 2013 - Wanyama 2014 - Forster 2015 - van Dijk? It happens at all levels of football, there are only a handful of clubs at the very top of European football that don't sell their best players. Edited 19 August, 2015 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 I reckon Sir Les would take 25M Can't see United paying more than 20M though.... But if they are stupid enough to pay more then we will accept. If JayRod gets back to his former level then we could be ok really as we have Juanmi also and with the funds we would probably get Austin too.... The one thing I do like about Sadio is his unpredictability though and he certainly knows where the back of the net is. So would be sad to see him go after only one season... My god I don't believe our fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 TBF, 15m + Januzaj would be a pretty good deal. this could be why and how the Januzaj rumour came about ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Personally I'm of the opinion that we just come out in the media and say no and end it there and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 you are the most anti saints person on here, we all know that, but at least stick to facts. I dont predict defeats though adrian. how can you be so bloody negative ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 I think after 40+ years of following Saints that i'm close to giving up on football altogether. No clubs can compete with the top 4/5 sides and when you do get close to having a side that will give the big boys a run for the money you get raided. The players themselves are nothing but greedy mercenaries who dont give a jot about the fans or the club that gave them their chance to sign. Yes i'm ****ed off, but whats the point if we cant say NO or the players we signed from oblivion sulk until they get their This. It's not bedwetting either. Sure things like this highlight why I no longer like football as much as I did. I find it all a little predictable and pointless, and why I am very much looking forward to the Europa League (hopefully). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 If he goes, we should go in for Redmond from Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 £30m would do it OK - But we should drive them upwards like Everton are doing to Chelsea.. Make the arrogant prats snivel a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Can't sell our best player this late in the window. Simple as. If we do, then I would say our peak has already been achieved. Simply can't sustain this turnover of players. Wouldn't suprise me if Mane pushed very hard for a move either... Also hate how United do their business in the media. Spot on its pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 This. It's not bedwetting either. Sure things like this highlight why I no longer like football as much as I did. I find it all a little predictable and pointless, and why I am very much looking forward to the Europa League (hopefully). It's not bedwetting, it's disillusionment. And I feel that way too. It's not Saints fault. It's just how football is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 Don't worry. Whitey Grandad and sadoldgit will be along soon to put a positive spin on things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 'Not looking to sell'... heard that before. Club needs to come out and confirm he's not for sale at any price, end it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 This should be treated in the same manner as Morgan bid last year, he simply isn't for sale no matter the price. We can't afford to sell anyone else and certainly not at this stage of the transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 No way we are accepting less than the amount they would have paid for Pedro so nothing to see here I don't think. 21 million £ or so....they could easily bid that for him. Might well depend on what sort of clauses he has in his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 A couple of things. Does he have: - Sell on Clause - Champions League team buy out clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 I think after 40+ years of following Saints that i'm close to giving up on football altogether. No clubs can compete with the top 4/5 sides and when you do get close to having a side that will give the big boys a run for the money you get raided. The players themselves are nothing but greedy mercenaries who dont give a jot about the fans or the club that gave them their chance to sign. Yes i'm ****ed off, but whats the point if we cant say NO or the players we signed from oblivion sulk until they get their Absolutely spot on. My thoughts exactly. Club need to restore our faith with a firm no as they did last year with Morgan. If they don't then this summer is almost as bad as last and we were assured it wouldn't happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 I bet Celtic fans feel the same about Southampton... 2013 - Wanyama 2014 - Forster 2015 - van Dijk? It happens at all levels of football, there are only a handful of clubs at the very top of European football that don't sell their best players. Celtic can do it as they play in a **** poor league and can still comfortably achieve their objectives whilst losing a good player every couple of seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 I know it's a long shot, but I was shocked how bad we looked v Everton. Yoshida, Fonte, Davis and one or two other body language was not great...maybe this has something to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 He's not good enough to play for Man Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 I know it's a long shot, but I was shocked how bad we looked v Everton. Yoshida, Fonte, Davis and one or two other body language was not great...maybe this has something to do with it? You are right, it's a long shot ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 At some point the club needs to draw a line in the sand. It's not just about the latest targeted player but about the attitude of the rest of the squad - and even players we haven't signed yet. If you get the reputation of being a "stepping stone club", that's exactly what you become in the eyes of present and future players and their agents. Having said that, I love the positives that Mané brings but I think his "fart in a thunderstorm" style screws us up tactically as often as it helps us. I want to see that line drawn - and soon, but silly money for Mané might not be as bad a thing as it seems at first blush. As long as "The Black Box" knows exactly what we need to do next, if he goes. There I have my doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 We better prepare for his departure. Hopefully we can find a replacment before close of window and not just Januzai on loan in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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