Highfield Saint Posted 9 November, 2015 Share Posted 9 November, 2015 personally, I'd be more concerned about Townsend coming here.. than I would Mane leaving for £50 million ! AT is really over-rated and he'd be gone in a year. My memory is long enough to remember how we were sc*ewed by Spu*s over the Chivers / Saul deal in '67 .....and this one smells the same. Shearer for Dixon and Speedie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 9 November, 2015 Share Posted 9 November, 2015 yes I'm chuckling at gifs Hope he can deal with the knob sizes as it caused Ronaldo to leave Ronaldo has nothing to worry about, he is the biggest knob on the planet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 9 November, 2015 Share Posted 9 November, 2015 My take on Mane is that his brilliant, quite unique skills would take a lot of replacing, even if some Club like Man U coughed up 40k plus pounds. I see his role and value at Saints equal to that of Suarez when at Liverpool and even Bale when at Spurs. I can't think of an attacking player in the Prem I'd swap him for......Hazard, Stirling, Martial, Aguero, Benteke, Vardy, Kane? No thanks. I know he will go eventually, but I'd like the Club to dig in and keep him for as long as possible, including an extension of contract, because when he goes, even for big money, it will leave a big gap in our style and efficiency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 9 November, 2015 Share Posted 9 November, 2015 I can't think of an attacking player in the Prem I'd swap him for......Hazard, Stirling, Martial, Aguero, Benteke, Vardy, Kane? No. U wot m8?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 9 November, 2015 Share Posted 9 November, 2015 My take on Mane is that his brilliant, quite unique skills would take a lot of replacing, even if some Club like Man U coughed up 40k plus pounds. I see his role and value at Saints equal to that of Suarez when at Liverpool and even Bale when at Spurs. I can't think of an attacking player in the Prem I'd swap him for......Hazard, Stirling, Martial, Aguero, Benteke, Vardy, Kane? No thanks. I know he will go eventually, but I'd like the Club to dig in and keep him for as long as possible, including an extension of contract, because when he goes, even for big money, it will leave a big gap in our style and efficiency. I doubt we'd let him leave unless we had a replacement lined up. That said, I'd be gutted if he did go this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 10 November, 2015 Share Posted 10 November, 2015 don't want to do any business with spur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 10 November, 2015 Share Posted 10 November, 2015 United also linked with Mahrez and Perez at Newcastle. It's pretty clear they need creativity, but in my opinion selling Mane to them for less than £50 million would be stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 10 November, 2015 Share Posted 10 November, 2015 I can't think of an attacking player in the Prem I'd swap him for......Hazard, Stirling, Martial, Aguero, Benteke, Vardy, Kane? No thanks. Total nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 10 November, 2015 Share Posted 10 November, 2015 I don't think Mane is a proper winger and is much more effective playing centrally or just behind a front man. I think LVG seems to play a fairly strict positional system at Utd and anyone who goes there as a winger will need to be a natural wide man. Mahrez would be more effective for them, or dare I say, Tadic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted 10 November, 2015 Share Posted 10 November, 2015 My take on Mane is that his brilliant, quite unique skills would take a lot of replacing, even if some Club like Man U coughed up 40k plus pounds. I see his role and value at Saints equal to that of Suarez when at Liverpool and even Bale when at Spurs. I can't think of an attacking player in the Prem I'd swap him for......Hazard, Stirling, Martial, Aguero, Benteke, Vardy, Kane? No thanks. I know he will go eventually, but I'd like the Club to dig in and keep him for as long as possible, including an extension of contract, because when he goes, even for big money, it will leave a big gap in our style and efficiency. 1) United will need to offer a lot more than £40k. 2) Are you mental? 3) Fans have a habit of over-emphasising the importance of players. A few months ago, Alderweireld was totally irreplaceable and the world as we knew was coming to an end when he signed for Spurs instead of us. As it happened, there turned out to be other centre backs on the planet who are also quite good. Weird. Who had heard of Mane before we signed him? Football exists outside of this league and country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 November, 2015 Share Posted 11 November, 2015 United also linked with Mahrez and Perez at Newcastle. It's pretty clear they need creativity, but in my opinion selling Mane to them for less than £50 million would be stupid. He is not a £50m player. He is good but not that good. To be a £50m player he would need to be as good as he is, 19 years old and English. As he is, I reckon we'll get £30m or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 11 November, 2015 Share Posted 11 November, 2015 He is not a £50m player. He is good but not that good. To be a £50m player he would need to be as good as he is, 19 years old and English. As he is, I reckon we'll get £30m or so. But if that is true there is no point in selling him in January. The 30 million will still be there next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 11 November, 2015 Share Posted 11 November, 2015 Manes agent will try and get him his move ASAP of course though .. He wants his slice of the wedge in jan rather than hoping mane doesn't break his leg and can't play again .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 11 November, 2015 Share Posted 11 November, 2015 It amazes me how saints fans get so excited and love speculating about players potentially leaving the club. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 11 November, 2015 Share Posted 11 November, 2015 It amazes me how saints fans get so excited and love speculating about players potentially leaving the club. Weird. It's not weird it's just because most saints fans have now come to terms with our position in the world of football after the last two summers. Any player in the red and white that looks even half decent will be off so the only thing that helps us get over the pain is seeing then go for loads of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 11 November, 2015 Share Posted 11 November, 2015 It amazes me how saints fans get so excited and love speculating about players potentially leaving the club. Weird. You're presupposing that everybody that posts on here is a Saints fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 11 November, 2015 Share Posted 11 November, 2015 By the way how many player leaving Saints in recent times have gone on to be better players? Think Mane is special. 45 Million special and not a penny less. But we don't need to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 12 November, 2015 Share Posted 12 November, 2015 (edited) Shearer for Dixon and Speedie? Oh ! thankfully ...I'd almost forgotten than one......I think their combined efforts cost Saints about £100K per game* , and half of the Shearer fee....... (* and that was based on 1992 prices) almost another 25 years on, and it happened again with Gaston and Osvaldo....... Edited 12 November, 2015 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 12 November, 2015 Share Posted 12 November, 2015 He is not a £50m player. He is good but not that good. To be a £50m player he would need to be as good as he is, 19 years old and English. As he is, I reckon we'll get £30m or so. I agree with that, but it's a seller's market, and if MU are desperate enough ....they'll pay....and it won't even be a club record fee for them either...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 12 November, 2015 Share Posted 12 November, 2015 Those saying he isn't worth £50m, you're right. But that isn't really the point. Utds bidding for Martial was made public by Monaco's chairman. It went up from £20m to £55m (inc add ons) in about 48 hours. They are becoming the new Liverpool. £40m minimum please Louis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 12 November, 2015 Share Posted 12 November, 2015 He is injured apparently. Hopefully will be ok for the Stoke game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 November, 2015 Share Posted 12 November, 2015 But if that is true there is no point in selling him in January. The 30 million will still be there next summer. Yes, I see no reason why we should sell in January either but when he does go it wont be for £50m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 12 November, 2015 Share Posted 12 November, 2015 Those saying he isn't worth £50m, you're right. But that isn't really the point. Utds bidding for Martial was made public by Monaco's chairman. It went up from £20m to £55m (inc add ons) in about 48 hours. They are becoming the new Liverpool. £40m minimum please Louis. What was Martial £36-38m up front basic, plus the add ons to go to £55m?? I think that I saw somewhere someone (official) saying if Martial was that price, then Mané would be in the same league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 November, 2015 Share Posted 12 November, 2015 What was Martial £36-38m up front basic, plus the add ons to go to £55m?? I think that I saw somewhere someone (official) saying if Martial was that price, then Mané would be in the same league. what good will that do. We as fans wont see that money, the club wont reduce the ticket prices or expand the stadium. we will buy in a replacement for around £8m-£12m and hope they are as good. I hope we just say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 12 November, 2015 Share Posted 12 November, 2015 Don't get me wrong, so do I. As I responded earlier to a question about would you accept bids, there is the pragmatic and the romantic to take into account. As we don't run football clubs, pragmatism can take a hike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 12 November, 2015 Share Posted 12 November, 2015 He's not played well enough so far this season to attract a mega money bid from a top club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 November, 2015 Share Posted 12 November, 2015 what good will that do. We as fans wont see that money, the club wont reduce the ticket prices or expand the stadium. we will buy in a replacement for around £8m-£12m and hope they are as good. I hope we just say no. Apart from pretty much every player in our team you mean? Pelle, Fonte, K Davis and S Davis will all need replacing in the next couple of years, as well as Mané. TV money will provide some of that but a large amount of what we've sold in the past has been reinvested. The money from Morgan and Clyne went on Romeu, Virgil, Clasie, Cedric, Martina, Caulker, Stek and Juanmi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 12 November, 2015 Share Posted 12 November, 2015 what good will that do. We as fans wont see that money, the club wont reduce the ticket prices or expand the stadium. we will buy in a replacement for around £8m-£12m and hope they are as good. I hope we just say no. yeah but then in all likely hood we will bring in another player (or two) in another position(s) to so the squad will be strengthened by that money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 Perhaps £35m from Utd and AT on loan from Spurs would do until the summer when we can bring in a proper replacement? Personally I think he'll stay until the summer anyway. £35M plus Jamie Vardy, and let's talk. Until then, meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 £35M plus Jamie Vardy, and let's talk. Until then, meh. I'm fairly sure Utd wont be giving us Vardy in part ex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 what good will that do. We as fans wont see that money, the club wont reduce the ticket prices or expand the stadium. we will buy in a replacement for around £8m-£12m and hope they are as good. I hope we just say no. We've done remarkably well with the policy of spending £8-£12m and hoping haven't we Brett. Pelle, Tadic, Van Dijk, Bertrand, Mane, Claise, it's almost like there is a bit more to it than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 We've done remarkably well with the policy of spending £8-£12m and hoping haven't we Brett. Pelle, Tadic, Van Dijk, Bertrand, Mane, Claise, it's almost like there is a bit more to it than that. Yeah, but, like, Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 He is injured apparently. Hopefully will be ok for the Stoke game. The FIFA site says he starts for Senegal today (k/o 11:30 our time) so the injury cannot be so bad http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/round=276420/match=300338626/index.html#nosticky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 The FIFA site says he starts for Senegal today (k/o 11:30 our time) so the injury cannot be so bad http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/round=276420/match=300338626/index.html#nosticky Good news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 13 November, 2015 Author Share Posted 13 November, 2015 Isn't that the point? If you buy something that isn't for sale you overpay. This isn't about finding a fair sensible price for Man Utd or saying Mane is worth 50m, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't pay it. Was De Bruyne worth 55m? BEFORE he'd done anything for Man City? He'd had a failed spell at Chelsea and a decent season in the German League. That's an insane price for that situation too. 32m for Martial was insane. People were quick to say he's proven his value because he scored a handful of goals quickly, but he just looks like a reasonably good raw striker at the moment. So yes, a young quality attacker who is improving and has a couple of very good Premier League seasons under their belt? Why wouldn't they go for a ridiculous price? I agree Adrian. If Man Utd want Mane, it's to improve what they already have, so why wouldn't he go for an absolute fortune? Especially when the new TV revenue kicks in. You touched on it with Martial (and I believe the total cost is after add-on's is £50m+) All of United's forwards cost an absolute fortune: - Rooney was £27m (over 10 years ago!) - Mata was £37m - Fellaini was £27m - Depay was £30m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 Isn't that the point? If you buy something that isn't for sale you overpay. This isn't about finding a fair sensible price for Man Utd or saying Mane is worth 50m, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't pay it. Was De Bruyne worth 55m? BEFORE he'd done anything for Man City? He'd had a failed spell at Chelsea and a decent season in the German League. That's an insane price for that situation too. 32m for Martial was insane. People were quick to say he's proven his value because he scored a handful of goals quickly, but he just looks like a reasonably good raw striker at the moment. So yes, a young quality attacker who is improving and has a couple of very good Premier League seasons under their belt? Why wouldn't they go for a ridiculous price? Hardly anyone is 'for sale' but everyone has their price. I think £30m is a reasonable enough price for Mané, who will by then have 2 years left on his contract. The club wont want to let him get to the final year of his deal and end up like Clyne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 13 November, 2015 Share Posted 13 November, 2015 The FIFA site says he starts for Senegal today (k/o 11:30 our time) so the injury cannot be so bad http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/round=276420/match=300338626/index.html#nosticky Scored a goal too so hopefully he'll be fine for next Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 December, 2015 Author Share Posted 3 December, 2015 Telegraph Football @TeleFootball Manchester United face competition from Bayern Munich for Southampton forward Sadio Mane http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/12031917/Manchester-United-face-competition-from-Bayern-Munich-for-Southampton-forward-Sadio-Mane.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 3 December, 2015 Share Posted 3 December, 2015 Telegraph Football @TeleFootball Manchester United face competition from Bayern Munich for Southampton forward Sadio Mane http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/12031917/Manchester-United-face-competition-from-Bayern-Munich-for-Southampton-forward-Sadio-Mane.html He scored a hattrick for Salzburg against Bayern in a friendly before he joined Saints. Remember watching the You Tube highlights when we were linked with him and thinking he looked class. Sounds like we are in quite a strong position with him in that if he does go it will be club record fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 3 December, 2015 Share Posted 3 December, 2015 Article by Jeremy Wilson. Will be well sourced from the club. Basically saying Mane can go for £40m. #WeMarchOn Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 4 December, 2015 Share Posted 4 December, 2015 Article by Jeremy Wilson. Will be well sourced from the club. Basically saying Mane can go for £40m. #WeMarchOn Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Hope we're going to re-name the training ground in his honour, it's the least we can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric The Red Posted 4 December, 2015 Share Posted 4 December, 2015 Doesn't look like a well sourced article to me but more like an attempt, possibly by Mane's agent to whip up the price and/or any salary following a move. He's undoubtedly a very good player but £40m would be plenty enough to persuade me to sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 4 December, 2015 Share Posted 4 December, 2015 Its well sourced because of who its written by was what Chalet meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 December, 2015 Share Posted 4 December, 2015 Article by Jeremy Wilson. Will be well sourced from the club. Basically saying Mane can go for £40m. #WeMarchOn Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Not the worst deal in the world. I still can't see us selling in January though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 4 December, 2015 Share Posted 4 December, 2015 So selling him in January means we will need to replace him with someone else. The club will be paying over the odds plus clubs know we have plenty of money? Because of that reason I believe he will go in the summer as promised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 4 December, 2015 Share Posted 4 December, 2015 The club will be paying over the odds plus clubs know we have plenty of money? I would expect the club to have a replacement lined up for a rough fee before selling. As was the case when selling Clyne, Shaw, Morgan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 4 December, 2015 Share Posted 4 December, 2015 *rough cheaper fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 4 December, 2015 Share Posted 4 December, 2015 I would expect the club to have a replacement lined up for a rough fee before selling. As was the case when selling Clyne, Shaw, Morgan... Not in January they don't. I could be wrong but Saints have never bought anyone over the value of 5 million in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 4 December, 2015 Share Posted 4 December, 2015 (edited) . Never mind. Edited 4 December, 2015 by GarrettIvo Already discussed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 4 December, 2015 Share Posted 4 December, 2015 Wilson is a respected journalist and a Saints fan so he is probably not far from the mark. Whenever Mane goes this transfer talk is not helpful to him or us right now at a time we don't need distractions. A replacement should if possible be bought in January, if Koemans recent buys are anything to go by he will need 6 months bedding in time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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