Guan 2.0 Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 Seeing that the Everton game was stone cold garbage, I'm hoping for a good recation performance in this one... Alpine Saint prediction Saints to win 2-0 against FC Mintyland of thursday, with Reed and Romeo playing a half each to gain fitness. Followed by a Lazy Sunday win against Watford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulle Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 3-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 Let the battle of Mid Jutland begin..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 (edited) Agree with wanting Reed to play a part at some point in the game. Good chance for Romeu to get some minutes too. Pretty stretched at the back - I imagine Martina will come in - and *maybe* Caulker is fit to feature? (I can't remember what Ron said his prognosis is) Edited 16 August, 2015 by SuperSAINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 A clean sheet is paramount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 A clean sheet is paramount. And at least three goals to us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berudenot2 Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 What is the standard of football in the Danish League as they have currently played 5 won 4 drawn 1 and sit top of their league? Those predicting a comfortable win must have prior knowledge of the standard as they are impressive stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulle Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 What is the standard of football in the Danish League as they have currently played 5 won 4 drawn 1 and sit top of their league? Those predicting a comfortable win must have prior knowledge of the standard as they are impressive stats. I am a danish Saints fan, and i do understand your curiosity. They are a great team in Danish standards, but i doubt they'll be a real challenge for the saints. The match they draw were the one at Friday against FC Copenhagen (I am a fan of FC Copenhagen), and FC Copenhagen has previously proved that Danish teams can do well in Europe. They have won against Man United, played 1-1 with Barcelona, beaten Galatasaray 1-0 and so on. But FCM have no experience from Europe, and i think it will be a big challenge for them. Last season they got smashed by Panathinaikos, who FC Copenhagen have previously won against both 2-0 and 3-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 What is the standard of football in the Danish League as they have currently played 5 won 4 drawn 1 and sit top of their league? Those predicting a comfortable win must have prior knowledge of the standard as they are impressive stats. I have to admit that I'd never heard of them until the draw - just assumed Copenhagen where to Denmark what Celtic are to Scotland. At any level P5 W4 D1 is pretty impressive, and having played 5 league games and 2 or even 4 (?) Euro games their fitness / match sharpness should be ahead of ours. Hopefully the diaster of Saturday will have focused a few minds and we put on an impressive professional performance and run out with a 2 or 3 goal margin and no goals conceded. Seems the euphoria of the 1st game has worn off and tickets seem to be going much slower, and of course Saturdays game won't have helped much, and even at 15 smackers the lure of TV /Pub won't help either. Travelling back from Dubai and hoping my trip will get off to a winning start!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 What is the standard of football in the Danish League as they have currently played 5 won 4 drawn 1 and sit top of their league? Those predicting a comfortable win must have prior knowledge of the standard as they are impressive stats. Well they lost in the Champions League qualifyers to a cypriot team. Don't think the Cypriot league is too clever. In the previous round they won against a Gibraltan team 3-0 on aggregate. They currently have three players in the Danish national squad. Pione Sisto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pione_Sisto Jakob Poulsen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Poulsen Morten Rasmussen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morten_Rasmussen_(footballer,_born_January_1985) We "should" win quite comfortable and I'd expect a team of similar quality to Vitesse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 Be nice to see us pass the ball properly for the first time this season. A good opportunity to get some confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 How many have we sold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 How many have we sold? Just had a quick look on the stadium map on the ticket site and it is nowhere near a sale out. The entire Chapel is "good" in terms of availability, Blocks 44 and 45 are very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 Stek; Martina, Jose, Caulker and Matt; Juanmi, Vic, Romeu, and either Davis or Jay Rod; Pelle and Mane the team for me - so 5 changes, we must rotate the squad before what will be a really tough game on Sunday at a place we do not exactly thrive upon…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 Highlights of their draw on Friday night against FC Copenhagen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB5PJTbgV_E&feature=youtu.be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 How about...? --------------- Steklenberg ----------------- Cedric ---- Fonte ----- Caulker --- Martina ----------------- Romeu --------------------- ---------- Juanmi ------- JWP -------------- ---- Mane ------- Pelle --------- JRod ------ Subs: Gazza, Targett, Yoshida, Wanyama, Reed, Davis, Long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 I am not predicting any score , I thought we would beat Everton and look how that turned out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 How about...? --------------- Steklenberg ----------------- Cedric ---- Fonte ----- Caulker --- Martina ----------------- Romeu --------------------- ---------- Juanmi ------- JWP -------------- ---- Mane ------- Pelle --------- JRod ------ Subs: Gazza, Targett, Yoshida, Wanyama, Reed, Davis, Long Same issue as Everton and Newcastle, awfully balanced team IMO with too many attackers with no defensive instinct. I would play as close to the starting midfield as possible and get them into some rhythm. 4-3-3 but with a proper midfield three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 How about...? --------------- Steklenberg ----------------- Cedric ---- Fonte ----- Caulker --- Martina ----------------- Romeu --------------------- ---------- Juanmi ------- JWP -------------- ---- Mane ------- Pelle --------- JRod ------ Subs: Gazza, Targett, Yoshida, Wanyama, Reed, Davis, Long Juanmi Dosen't play CM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 Someone have a bacon sandwich out their as I want to know if their bacon is better. Thanks Oops wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 Be interesting to see what Koeman does. Big game at the weekend, so i'd suggest a fair amount of rotation midweek Stek Soares Fonte Caulker Targett Reed Romeu Juanmi JWP JRod Long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 I think he has to go with the strongest line up to encourage understanding which was lacking against Everton. So I'd go with the 11 that finished the game (other than maybe swapping martina for Cedric with a plan to ensure Reed and Long get playing time at some point. Maybe bring Caulker on later too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 Be interesting to see what Koeman does. Big game at the weekend, so i'd suggest a fair amount of rotation midweek Stek Soares Fonte Caulker Targett Reed Romeu Juanmi JWP JRod Long Watford is no bigger than any other game and I would place higher priority on this one. I'd expect a very similar team to the Everton game but with J Rod and Romeu probably starting ahead of Long and maybe Tadic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfield Saint Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 Highlights of their draw on Friday night against FC Copenhagen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB5PJTbgV_E&feature=youtu.be Their disallowed goal is a copy of lukaku's first and the winjaldum goal vs Newcastle. Better get our left hand side a bit tighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genk Posted 16 August, 2015 Share Posted 16 August, 2015 I'd rather play Yoshida at left back than that useless teenager Targett who bottles challenges. It's a case of Yoshida being less bad with Fonte & Caulker in the middle. Start Romeu and I think we could grind out a 2-0 win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 Someone have a bacon sandwich out their as I want to know if their bacon is better. Thanks Oops wrong thread The Bacon in Denmark is shiite as they export all the good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintTex Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 --------------Stek---------------- Soares--Fonte--Caulker--Targett ------Wanyama-----Romeu------ ------------JWP/Davis----------- ----Juanmi-----Pelle---Mane--- 01) Be defensive first, pair Wanyama and Romeu 02) Get Caulker in for Yoshida 03) Let Cedric and Targett play, build their confidence back up 04) Put JWP or Davis in an offensive posture, distributing (the Clasie spot in the future) 05) play Mane on the right, can be creative and won't require the need for Targett going forward 06) hope that Mane and Cedric link up better together than Cedric did was Tadic 07) Give Juanmi a go on the left (can Juanmi play on the left?), if that is not working, take out Juanmi at half, move Mane to the left, bring in JRod on the right. I have to admit I am a bit flummoxed over what is our best front three at the moment and what players best link up with the MF and fullbacks we have available today. Two months from now I am imaging this as our strongest lineup, although if in form, it could be Tadic on the right for JRod. --------------Stek-------------- Soares--Fonte--VvD--Bertrand ------Wanyama-----Romeu---- --------------Clasie-------------- ----Mane-----Pelle-----JRod---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 Mane is not a winger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 Mane is not a winger! You do realise that when he's been played out one side, he's still been given a lot of licence to roam. Many of his good games since the turn of the year have come from a nominally right side position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 Do we really want to progress to the group stage ? We look to have our hands full sorting out our Premier League effort. 6 group matches will be one helluva distraction and drain of energy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 Do we really want to progress to the group stage ? We look to have our hands full sorting out our Premier League effort. 6 group matches will be one helluva distraction and drain of energy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 Do we really want to progress to the group stage ? We look to have our hands full sorting out our Premier League effort. 6 group matches will be one helluva distraction and drain of energy... The logic in that argument suggests we should voluntarily drop back down to league 1 so we can find it easier to win games. The whole point in trying to finish high in the Premier League is to qualify for Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 The logic in that argument suggests we should voluntarily drop back down to league 1 so we can find it easier to win games. The whole point in trying to finish high in the Premier League is to qualify for Europe. I know. But can we really sustain the effort if the team is eviscerated every summer ? I think there are genuine concerns that this summer is different from last; we've brought in quantitiy so have a deeper squad, probably to address Europe, but we've lost quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 We will go through to the group stages. With that, our league form will suffer a little and we will be middling around the table. We will have an upturn in form when we are out of Europe and finish around 10th. Which is fine by me Ronald will leave in the summer as Holland will be very average in the Euro's and they come calling. it all starts again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 We will go through to the group stages. With that, our league form will suffer a little and we will be middling around the table. We will have an upturn in form when we are out of Europe and finish around 10th. Which is fine by me Ronald will leave in the summer as Holland will be very average in the Euro's and they come calling. it all starts again. At which point do you enjoy it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 At which point do you enjoy it? The wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 Same issue as Everton and Newcastle, awfully balanced team IMO with too many attackers with no defensive instinct. I would play as close to the starting midfield as possible and get them into some rhythm. 4-3-3 but with a proper midfield three. Agreed. We are definitely not right in midfield at the moment. I would start like this for Thursday: Stek Cedric-Fonte-Caulker-Yoshida Reed-Romeu JWP Mane, Rodriguez Pelle Bench: Gazza, Targett, Wanyama, Davis, Juanmi, Long, Tadic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 Agreed. We are definitely not right in midfield at the moment. I would start like this for Thursday: Stek Cedric-Fonte-Caulker-Yoshida Reed-Romeu JWP Mane, Rodriguez Pelle Bench: Gazza, Targett, Wanyama, Davis, Juanmi, Long, Tadic I think that it is of paramount importance that Vic and Romeu build up a strong partnership. We should not be meeting Watford without establishing a strong midfield, which will be the working core of the team. that shields the defence, and creates atacking opportunities. Vic could be rested in the second half though to give Harry a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 I can't see us not starting with Wanyama and Romeu given the vast improvement in the second half on the weekend - if we had a centre back who wasn't Yoshida and had started the game at half time we'd have probably been ok. We don't need to worry about tiredness yet but I can see some humpings in our future if/when we play top 6 sides after group stage matches. I take no pleasure from pointing out I've been talking about the team (not the squad) being weaker and "Schneiderlin and Alderweireld sized holes" for weeks, even when we were winning, but there it was. Very pleased with Romeu, somewhat disappointed with the people who haven't yet worked out the problem isn't Cedric (or even Targett), but the big gaps in front of them where we're narrow in the middle and the wide attacking midfielders aren't defending deep enough nor the narrow midfielders wide enough. Plus obvs Yoshida v Lukaku, not like we've seen that before, he gives the guy 2 yards and beats him to everything. Bringing Rodriguez on on Saturday was akin to throwing in the towel, we'd already proven that trying to outscore them just leads to us getting nailed on the break. Oh, and we didn't play 4-3-3 at any point on the weekend, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 Brentford are selling tickets for the away section on Thursday night...... http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk//news/article/fc-midtjylland-v-southampton-europa-league-clash-2621042.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 In terms of tiredness/resting players, I hope a lesson was learnt from the Vitesse game, by all means take it seriously, but if 3-0 up from the first leg, that's really an opportunity to rest key players in the 2nd leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 Definitely don't think Targett should or will start. Needs a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 I know. But can we really sustain the effort if the team is eviscerated every summer ? I think there are genuine concerns that this summer is different from last; we've brought in quantitiy so have a deeper squad, probably to address Europe, but we've lost quality. Well it might be worth waiting just a few more games before drawing any conclusions on quality. Toby left a hole for sure but with a choice between Cedric and Martina at right back I dont think we will miss Clyne. I was very impressed with Romeu on Saturday and with Clasie in the wings I am optimistic that we can perform at the same level as last season. Another centre back will help with that confidence of course. Playing two games each week with the squad we have should not really be a problem for professional footballers. It's not like they are sitting around doing nothing with one game per week - they still have to train hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 Do we really want to progress to the group stage ? We look to have our hands full sorting out our Premier League effort. 6 group matches will be one helluva distraction and drain of energy... Is this the same as your ''let's throw automatic promotion and concentrate on the playoffs?''. That went well. I must admit, I feel slightly calmer about the situation when Alpine starts to insert his pearls of wisdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 Definitely don't think Targett should or will start. Needs a rest. After 2 league games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 After 2 league games? TBF Ronald came out after the game and said that Targett has been unwell and has been playing through illness, so his levels will be lower. And let's be honest, he looked frighteningly off the pace on Saturday. May be worth getting him to sit out for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 Brentford are selling tickets for the away section on Thursday night...... http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk//news/article/fc-midtjylland-v-southampton-europa-league-clash-2621042.aspx Seems a bit iffy to me, surely if they can't sell out their allocation they should be given back to home fans not passed on to a team with tenuous links at best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 Brentford are selling tickets for the away section on Thursday night...... http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk//news/article/fc-midtjylland-v-southampton-europa-league-clash-2621042.aspx That's weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 TBF Ronald came out after the game and said that Targett has been unwell and has been playing through illness, so his levels will be lower. And let's be honest, he looked frighteningly off the pace on Saturday. May be worth getting him to sit out for this one. Sometimes these illnesses can be deceptive, especially if it's a virus. You might feel ok but the muscles aren't up to full effectiveness and your brain is not as sharp. Was he also affected for the Newcastle game? He wasn't quite on the ball in that one either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 17 August, 2015 Share Posted 17 August, 2015 Seems a bit iffy to me, surely if they can't sell out their allocation they should be given back to home fans not passed on to a team with tenuous links at best! It'll be for the same block though. They've only got 46 -48 and as they aren't expecting to bring more than 200-300 then it's tickets that wouldn't be able to be sold onto Saints fans anyway. Slightly more than a tenuous link though.... Same owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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