Saint_clark Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Instantly looked a lot better when he came on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Instantly looked a lot better when he came on Agree. Knows the role, decent on the ball. Didn't seem overly agile but a million miles better than Davis in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildsaint Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Thought he was ****. Poor challenges and easily passed by. He was trying too hard. Needs to calm down and play naturally. This is the most laughable comment I have seen for a while. The whole balance of the team changed the moment he stepped on the field. strong , decent touch, decent range of passing and strengthened our midfield no end. He may have been a little too enthusiastic in the tackle and definitely needs match fitness but we were a far more solid side with him in the team than first half. A friend who was in corp hosp in Vitesse spoke with Les Read and he said he was 100% confident that VVD will join saints - that will make a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 This is the most laughable comment I have seen for a while. The whole balance of the team changed the moment he stepped on the field. strong , decent touch, decent range of passing and strengthened our midfield no end. . No it didn't we still looked crap. They still had lot's of shots and scored a goal. Can laugh at my comment all you want but we didn't look any better with him on the pitch. That isn't saying he is to blame because he isn't. The whole team played poor before he came on and continued to play poor when he came on. Football is a game of opinions but most of those who I left the game with seemed to share mine. Maybe he looked better on TV. I would go back and watch the game but i'd rather die than watch that crap again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 No it didn't we still looked crap. They still had lot's of shots and scored a goal. Can laugh at my comment all you want but we didn't look any better with him on the pitch. That isn't saying he is to blame because he isn't. The whole team played poor before he came on and continued to play poor when he came on. Football is a game of opinions but most of those who I left the game with seemed to share mine. Maybe he looked better on TV. I would go back and watch the game but i'd rather die than watch that crap again. Totally disagree. We looked much better with him on the pitch - gave us much more balance and thought his passing and touch were decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Thought he was ****. Poor challenges and easily passed by. He was trying too hard. Needs to calm down and play naturally. You are having a laugh. About the only good thing about today. He instantly gave us some steel, his passing was good, his interceptions, he really looked class in the role that he was brought in for. The yellow card was just so wrong, but then Oliver had no idea today as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 You are having a laugh. About the only good thing about today. He instantly gave us some steel, his passing was good, his interceptions, . His interceptions? He made one..... http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/958476/LiveStatistics/England-Premier-League-2015-2016-Southampton-Everton Didn't make a single tackle.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 (edited) His interceptions? He made one..... http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/958476/LiveStatistics/England-Premier-League-2015-2016-Southampton-Everton Didn't make a single tackle.... Well he did actually and got a well deserved yellow card for it....other than that we'll just have to see how he gets on as the season progresses... Edited 15 August, 2015 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marching Halos Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 No it didn't we still looked crap. They still had lot's of shots and scored a goal. Can laugh at my comment all you want but we didn't look any better with him on the pitch. That isn't saying he is to blame because he isn't. The whole team played poor before he came on and continued to play poor when he came on. Football is a game of opinions but most of those who I left the game with seemed to share mine. Maybe he looked better on TV. I would go back and watch the game but i'd rather die than watch that crap again. Thought he was ****. Poor challenges and easily passed by. He was trying too hard. Needs to calm down and play naturally. Do you need glasses??? I was also at the game as soon as he come on we play well for about 30mins. he looked good, and i dont think he missed many of hes passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 No it didn't we still looked crap. They still had lot's of shots and scored a goal. Can laugh at my comment all you want but we didn't look any better with him on the pitch. That isn't saying he is to blame because he isn't. The whole team played poor before he came on and continued to play poor when he came on. Football is a game of opinions but most of those who I left the game with seemed to share mine. Maybe he looked better on TV. I would go back and watch the game but i'd rather die than watch that crap again. You are completely and utterly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Thought he was ****. Poor challenges and easily passed by. He was trying too hard. Needs to calm down and play naturally. What planet are you on? He completely changed us when he came on and suddenly Everton could not drive a bus through the middle of the park. He looks like he will be an excellent addition to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 You are completely and utterly wrong. Because I don't share your opinion? Right.... What planet are you on? He completely changed us when he came on and suddenly Everton could not drive a bus through the middle of the park. He looks like he will be an excellent addition to the team. But yet they still managed to have more shots and score a goal whilst he was on the pitch? The stats don't back up what you are saying at all. Their third goal came from the middle. Neysmith received a pass from the middle and should of scored. All the player ratings of the matches have him as a 5 or a 6. Guess they were not at the game either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Because I don't share your opinion? Right..... No, just because no one else in the entire world shares your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 His interceptions? He made one..... http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/958476/LiveStatistics/England-Premier-League-2015-2016-Southampton-Everton Didn't make a single tackle.... Going by whoscored's stats based ratings system our best three players were Yoshida, Davis and Cedric... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 No, just because no one else in the entire world shares your opinion. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 No, just because no one else in the entire world shares your opinion. Right..... http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/match-centre/southampton-vs-everton-live-goals-6122704 well there is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Because I don't share your opinion? Right.... But yet they still managed to have more shots and score a goal whilst he was on the pitch? The stats don't back up what you are saying at all. Their third goal came from the middle. Neysmith received a pass from the middle and should of scored. All the player ratings of the matches have him as a 5 or a 6. Guess they were not at the game either. I don't need stats to see that he greatly improved our team shape and balance, which appears to be the general view. Genuinely am shocked you didn't think he made a difference. The problem with stats is that there aren't ones for looking comfortable on the ball, positional sense, tempo and awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Right..... http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/match-centre/southampton-vs-everton-live-goals-6122704 well there is one. Ok, what am I looking at here? If you're so sure of your opinion then you wouldn't be prowling the internet to try and back it up. Facts: We were **** for the majority of today's game The introduction of Oriol provided the defense with more protection, the midfield shape was better We conceded less possession and opportunities in the 2nd half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Ok, what am I looking at here? If you're so sure of your opinion then you wouldn't be prowling the internet to try and back it up. Facts: We were **** for the majority of today's game The introduction of Oriol provided the defense with more protection, the midfield shape was better We conceded less possession and opportunities in the 2nd half Agree, though Everton were also quite happy to sit back more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Ok, what am I looking at here? If you're so sure of your opinion then you wouldn't be prowling the internet to try and back it up. Facts: We were **** for the majority of today's game The introduction of Oriol provided the defense with more protection, the midfield shape was better We conceded less possession and opportunities in the 2nd half see below I don't need stats to see that he greatly improved our team shape and balance, which appears to be the general view. Genuinely am shocked you didn't think he made a difference. The problem with stats is that there aren't ones for looking comfortable on the ball, positional sense, tempo and awareness. Like I said it is a game of opinions. People are saying we blocked them from playing through the middle once he came on (S Clarke). That isn't right. Look at the third goal. They still had clear chances from the middle. That isn't down to Romeu it is down to the whole team playing badly. Wanyama had a worse game. Which is rare for him. If we totally forget the first half and look at the second half on its own would you say our central midfield was better then theirs? They stopped us playing, we didn't stop them. They limited us to having crosses from our RB and LB where as they powered their way through the middle. Less so in the second half but they still did it. They had three clear chances from the middle in the second half of which they scored one. It was better but not great as Clarke is trying to imply. If that was our performance for the rest of the season we would get stuffed most weeks. Ok, what am I looking at here? If you're so sure of your opinion then you wouldn't be prowling the internet to try and back it up. Then back up your opinion. Show me an un-biased report backing up what you are claiming? I have shown stats and media opinion to show not all share yours as you try and claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 see below Like I said it is a game of opinions. People are saying we blocked them from playing through the middle once he came on (S Clarke). That isn't right. Look at the third goal. They still had clear chances from the middle. That isn't down to Romeu it is down to the whole team playing badly. Wanyama had a worse game. Which is rare for him. If we totally forget the first half and look at the second half on its own would you say our central midfield was better then theirs? They stopped us playing, we didn't stop them. They limited us to having crosses from our RB and LB where as they powered their way through the middle. Less so in the second half but they still did it. They had three clear chances from the middle in the second half of which they scored one. It was better but not great as Clarke is trying to imply. If that was our performance for the rest of the season we would get stuffed most weeks. Then back up your opinion. Show me an un-biased report backing up what you are claiming? I have shown stats and media opinion to show not all share yours as you try and claim. Seriously, what the **** is your problem? A blind man could have seen the difference he made. I don't understand why I need to justify it, when I have 31,000 people who can do that for me. Christ on a bike. Is this really even worth a debate? We were ****, end of. He looked good when he came on, but the game was already lost. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Seriously, what the **** is your problem? A blind man could have seen the difference he made. I don't understand why I need to justify it, when I have 31,000 people who can do that for me. Christ on a bike. Is this really even worth a debate? We were ****, end of. He looked good when he came on, but the game was already lost. End of story. Strange how St Marco cannot see it but he made a huge difference and I hope he becomes Vic's permanent partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Seriously, what the **** is your problem? A blind man could have seen the difference he made. I don't understand why I need to justify it, when I have 31,000 people who can do that for me. Christ on a bike. Is this really even worth a debate? We were ****, end of. He looked good when he came on, but the game was already lost. End of story. No, because you're not going to convince him, ha. It's near as damn it unanimous that we improved as a team with Romeu on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Seriously, what the **** is your problem? A blind man could have seen the difference he made. I don't understand why I need to justify it, when I have 31,000 people who can do that for me. Christ on a bike. Is this really even worth a debate? We were ****, end of. He looked good when he came on, but the game was already lost. End of story. It isn't a debate is it. You are doing the whole if I shout louder I must have the better opinion thing. I honestly don't think he shored up our midfield in the way you are claiming. We still got done from the middle. Is that not correct? Did they no longer get through from the middle in the second half? That isn't saying it is his fault. He made one interception and made no tackles. What he did well was his passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marching Halos Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 St Marco is an idiot......END OF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 St Marco is an idiot......END OF Harsh! He has just made a silly and poor judgement and is unable to accept he is totally wrong despite virtually everyone else pointing it out. Climb down St Marco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Harsh! He has just made a silly and poor judgement and is unable to accept he is totally wrong despite virtually everyone else pointing it out. Climb down St Marco Not at all. What is idiotic is someone having to use an alt account to reply to me (Halos). As **** as you may think my opinion is that is far worse. Maybe I should make 10 accounts and have them all agree with me..... I simply don't think he made us stronger, that is my view (based on the fact we still got done in the middle of the pitch). Couldn't care less if people agree or disagree. What I do care about is people arguing their points without being total bellends about it. What would the point be of a discussion forum if we all shared the same opinion, would be pretty boring no? As I said above I am not writing him off and don't mean it come across like that. They all played bad and we have time to put it right. Time will tell if he becomes a good defensive midfielder or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Thought he was ****. Poor challenges and easily passed by. He was trying too hard. Needs to calm down and play naturally. Instantly looked a lot better when he came on Amazing back to back posts. Definitely agree with the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Makes a change from all those who look a lot better before they come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Don't see why everyone is giving him ****. It's his opinion at the end of the day. Mine is that we had a much better balance throughout the team when he came on but we still had too many stragglers on the pitch. Not a lot he could've done on his own but it was a solid display and a good foundation to build on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Don't see why everyone is giving him ****. It's his opinion at the end of the day. Mine is that we had a much better balance throughout the team when he came on but we still had too many stragglers on the pitch. Not a lot he could've done on his own but it was a solid display and a good foundation to build on. I agree. I wonder why he didn't start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 Don't see why everyone is giving him ****. It's his opinion at the end of the day. Mine is that we had a much better balance throughout the team when he came on but we still had too many stragglers on the pitch. Not a lot he could've done on his own but it was a solid display and a good foundation to build on. He looked what he was supposed to be a DM PLAYER! Steven Davis is not and we looked a far better team second half more compact. would have liked Juanmi to have come on instead of JWP . We need some quality in ...last year we got toby and sadio in just before window ends , so similar players again would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 I'd like to see a midfield of him Victor and Clasie but with Clasie slightly advanced ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 For a bloke who only rocked up on Wednesday I thought he looked pretty good straight out of the box. From behind the Chapel goal you could see he was constantly weighing up the option on offer right across the field, thought he looked like he had been with the team for most of the summer, looking forward to when he has settled in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 No it didn't we still looked crap. They still had lot's of shots and scored a goal. Can laugh at my comment all you want but we didn't look any better with him on the pitch. That isn't saying he is to blame because he isn't. The whole team played poor before he came on and continued to play poor when he came on. Football is a game of opinions but most of those who I left the game with seemed to share mine. Maybe he looked better on TV. I would go back and watch the game but i'd rather die than watch that crap again. Only just looked here. And not read all thread, but everyone I spoke to who went raved about him (well raved maybe bit much!) He filled position which had been open, strong, confident on the ball and thought his passing was excellent. He was rightly booked for trying too hard. Would be very surprised if hardly anyone agrees with you, but as you say...opinions! I am pretty confident we would have won with him, for a start he protected Targett. (Although Targett started ok was then pretty poor at times, but hate to hear youngster getting abuse, wasn't as if wasn't trying) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 I don't think the game changed because of Romeu coming on, it was more to do with Koeman tweaking the tatics and giving the players a bloody roasting at half time. Sure Romeu looked okay coming on but I still don't think we would of won the game if he started because the team was badly setup in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 I thought he looked good today Would have been a different game if he played the full 90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_kev Posted 15 August, 2015 Share Posted 15 August, 2015 IMHO Romeu made a great difference in adding strength and support for Vic in midfield. Picked up a yellow, but how many bad tempered fouls did Morgan get? Many. Added bite to midfield. Frankly thought we were lucky to keep it to three... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 August, 2015 Share Posted 19 August, 2015 You don't play 339 games (according to Wiki) for one of the best sides in the country by being ****ing crap. I give you John O'Shea, 393 games for Manchester United, arguably THE best side in the country, and total ****e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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