The9 Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Ha! One of the most misunderstood Shakespeare quotes. In the context, 'wherefore?' actually roughly translates as 'why?'. (Juliet is musing about why she had to fall in love with Romeo as opposed to someone more 'suitable'. She is not, as many would believe, leaning over the balcony and asking where he is). Anyway, back to football, Romeu was very highly regarded by a lot of Chelsea fans and many were sad to see him go. Seems like a very canny signing. Definitely good to get some physical strength in the midfield. Indeed, "why does your name have to be Romeo" is the gist of it, because he's a Montague, and, well, y'know, she's a Capulet and they're at war and all that. As opposed to "faaaaaack I can't find him".
trousers Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Do we know what the fee is? Somebody on Reddit has said around £5m but I don't know where they got that from. Would sound about right for a player in his situation
buctootim Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Ha! One of the most misunderstood Shakespeare quotes. In the context, 'wherefore?' actually roughly translates as 'why?'. (Juliet is musing about why she had to fall in love with Romeo as opposed to someone more 'suitable'. She is not, as many would believe, leaning over the balcony and asking where he is).. You would have thought Shakespeare of all people would know how to write and communicate clearly;)
buctootim Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 The missus More like brother and sister whose dad won the Grand National.
Brizzie Saints Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Yeah yeah this is all well and good but how does he rate on F M
Give it to Ron Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 The kids aren't ready yet. Our reputation for giving young players chances seems to be almost exclusively for attacking-minded players (I'm including Shaw and Chambers in that); CB and GK are positions where you can't afford to be bullied around - a mistake could easily equal an opposition goal - and players tend to keep getting better with age. Look at Terry and Fonte, two of the best CBs in the league. If Turnbull were playing CB against Man City or somebody then there's a good chance he wouldn't have the physicality or experience to deal with their attackers and end up making mistakes, causing us to concede goals and for his confidence to go down the pan. Young attacking players, great, the more the merrier. Young CBs/GKs - get them out on loan until they're ready. In the u21 game the other night we had 8 out of 10 had played for the first team not including Clasie
JxgrSaint Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Do we know what the fee is? Somebody on Reddit has said around £5m but I don't know where they got that from. That's what he cost Chelsea and he's done nothing there, so moving him on for what they paid would seem to make sense...
Matthew Le God Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 With Romeu and possibly van Dijk they'd be a good amount of depth to the squad... Goalkeepers Stekelenburg Forster (long term injury) Gazzaniga K.Davis Right backs Cedric Martina Left backs Bertrand Targett Centre backs Fonte van Dijk? Caulker Yoshida Gardos (long term injury) Central midfield Wanyama Clasie Romeu S.Davis Ward-Prowse Reed Attacking players Pelle Mane Rodriguez Tadic Juanmi Long Plus some promising under 21 players if needed.
Coldridge Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Someone frame this post. Alpine could yet be 'satisfied'. If we win the Europa league, he will be content. If we win the Premier league, he will be pleased. If we win the Champions league (next season, ofc), he will be happy.
Coldridge Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Do we know what the fee is? Somebody on Reddit has said around £5m but I don't know where they got that from. Probably just plucked that figure out of their fedora to be honest..
Saint_clark Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 With Turnbull and Stephens it seems like we're committed to keeping them until they're in their mid 20s, but letting them out on loan for experience.
stpedro Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 With Romeu and possibly van Dijk they'd be a good amount of depth to the squad... Goalkeepers Stekelenburg Forster (long term injury) Gazzaniga K.Davis Right backs Cedric Martina Left backs Bertrand Targett Centre backs Fonte van Dijk? Caulker Yoshida Gardos (long term injury) Central midfield Wanyama Clasie Romeu S.Davis Ward-Prowse Reed Attacking players Pelle Mane Rodriguez Tadic Juanmi Long Plus some promising under 21 players if needed. You'd think that RK would be reasonably happy to include the likes of Seager, Hesketh, Gape, McCarthy, McQueen, Isgrove of the younger players as substitutes where needed, if perhaps not yet starters. Throw in Stephens, Turnbull and Gallagher as well in case of an injury crisis and it looks pretty healthy. Perhaps the only thing lacking (apart from the centre back unless VVD is bought) is an experienced winger / wide option in that squad, though the likes of Mané, Tadic and Rodriguez can play out there
Give it to Ron Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 (edited) The kids aren't ready yet. Our reputation for giving young players chances seems to be almost exclusively for attacking-minded players (I'm including Shaw and Chambers in that); CB and GK are positions where you can't afford to be bullied around - a mistake could easily equal an opposition goal - and players tend to keep getting better with age. Look at Terry and Fonte, two of the best CBs in the league. If Turnbull were playing CB against Man City or somebody then there's a good chance he wouldn't have the physicality or experience to deal with their attackers and end up making mistakes, causing us to concede goals and for his confidence to go down the pan. Young attacking players, great, the more the merrier. Young CBs/GKs - get them out on loan until they're ready. Duplicate Edited 12 August, 2015 by Give it to Ron I'm a ****
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Ha! One of the most misunderstood Shakespeare quotes. In the context, 'wherefore?' actually roughly translates as 'why?'. (Juliet is musing about why she had to fall in love with Romeo as opposed to someone more 'suitable'. She is not, as many would believe, leaning over the balcony and asking where he is). Anyway, back to football, Romeu was very highly regarded by a lot of Chelsea fans and many were sad to see him go. Seems like a very canny signing. Definitely good to get some physical strength in the midfield. The Danish for 'why?' is actually 'hvorfor?' which I always like to think of as 'what for?'
Appy Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 With Romeu and possibly van Dijk they'd be a good amount of depth to the squad... Goalkeepers Stekelenburg Forster (long term injury) Gazzaniga K.Davis Right backs Cedric Martina Left backs Bertrand Targett Centre backs Fonte van Dijk? Caulker Yoshida Gardos (long term injury) Central midfield Wanyama Clasie Romeu S.Davis Ward-Prowse Reed Attacking players Pelle Mane Rodriguez Tadic Juanmi Long Plus some promising under 21 players if needed. Could add Martina to LB and CB too at a push.
SO16_Saint Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Probably just plucked that figure out of their fedora to be honest.. Whats Roger got to do with anything
benali-shorts Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Stuttgart fans' opinions (on loan there 2014/15) - seemed to be considered a squad player and views on him fairly ambivalent http://forum.vfb.de/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=5484&hilit=romeu&start=700
Matthew Le God Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Could add Martina to LB and CB too at a push. Yep, I did it so each player was only in one position. You could also say S.Davis and Ward-Prowse play at times in an attacking midfield role as one of the three in a 4-2-3-1 system.
mcbendy Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 More like brother and sister whose dad won the Grand National. That's them outside their hotel. They are staying in the bridal suite.
Saintsteve7 Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Gonna be difficult for some established players to even make the bench at this rate. Competition for places really hotting up, what does this mean for Harrison Reed though? Loan?
Saint-Armstrong Posted 12 August, 2015 Author Posted 12 August, 2015 Any mention of a fee yet? Saw someone say it's in the £7m-£10m bracket.
Saint Charlie Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Saw someone say it's in the £7m-£10m bracket. Would be suprised if it was that much, although Chelsea probably the only better team than us at getting top dollar for players.
Chris27687 Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Do we know what the fee is? Somebody on Reddit has said around £5m but I don't know where they got that from. it's what Chelsea paid for him. Would imagine it would be something around that though.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Would be suprised if it was that much, although Chelsea probably the only better team than us at getting top dollar for players. Spurs are good at it too.
Saintsteve7 Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 With Romeu and possibly van Dijk they'd be a good amount of depth to the squad... Goalkeepers Stekelenburg Forster (long term injury) Gazzaniga K.Davis Right backs Cedric Martina Left backs Bertrand Targett Centre backs Fonte van Dijk? Caulker Yoshida Gardos (long term injury) Central midfield Wanyama Clasie Romeu S.Davis Ward-Prowse Reed Attacking players Pelle Mane Rodriguez Tadic Juanmi Long Plus some promising under 21 players if needed. And 17 can make the match day squad?! Gonna be some disappointed professionals each week!
Chris27687 Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 With Turnbull and Stephens it seems like we're committed to keeping them until they're in their mid 20s, but letting them out on loan for experience. Aren't we just trying to do a budget Chelsea? Loan out our promising youth players who don't quite make it and sell them for 2-3m to some Champ/Lower prem team. United used to be great at this.
Appy Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 And 17 can make the match day squad?! Gonna be some disappointed professionals each week! 18, but your point still stands.
SuperSAINT Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Saw someone say it's in the £7m-£10m bracket. Funnily enough, if it's £7m (& if we are to assume it's £10m for Virgil) then it pretty much bring's our outgoing ££'s bang in-line with our incoming ££'s.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 And 17 can make the match day squad?! Gonna be some disappointed professionals each week! They'll be plenty of injuries this season!
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Assuming that Caulker is going to get regular football and the fact that this guy can play at CB if required, I'm not sure we'll go for VvD. As things stand there's a few clubs interested in Virgil and Celtic will hold out for the highest bidder. I could see a price war between Sunderland, Newcastle, Everton and ourselves and we've never been a club to get involved in that nonsense. We'll have a figure that we're prepared to go to but will walk away if it all starts to get out of hand.
Diabolus Ex Machina Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Sounds like just what we need to add some depth to the CDM position. Only slight concern would be that it could hamper Reed's progress a bit but Koeman seemed to prefer slotting Davis/JWP in there instead of him when there was an injury anyway so might not really make much of a difference in that respect. Also wonder if the club have the possibility of Vic not signing a new contract in the back of their minds so trying to reinforce that position early.
ART Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 They'll be plenty of injuries this season! Good reason to change our name to the DELGADO KNEECAPS. Being high risk injury inclined seems to be a requisite for playing for Saints.
Batman Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 decent signing dont remember him on anyones HCDAJFU list?
Pamplemousse Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Hope he sorts out his hair before he plays for us
Bobbyboy Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 When I read this thread I'm thinking things like 'well we never really replaced Cork', 'Wanyama always misses a chunk of games with injury/suspension' and 'we've got those Europa games if we qualify for the group stages' so I think Harry Reed will still get a chance, and this guy. I still think losing Cork may have cost us a position or even two in the league last year because we did end up a little short in that spot last season. The challenge is keeping everyone happy even if they're not first choice/playing every week. This guy may be a very good answer to that question.
Diabolus Ex Machina Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 For those suggesting he could play CB has he played there much in the past? Can't recall it myself but admittedly don't know the player that well. I'm still of the belief that we want VVD as a replacement for Toby (no smoke without fire and weren't we even rumoured to have put in a bid?) and with Caulker on loan as a replacement for the injured Gardos and Yoshida and Fonte as first teamers I can't see the need for any more CB cover (have the youngsters as well if desperate).
richardc Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 decent signing dont remember him on anyones HCDAJFU list? I think he might have been on Les Reed's
SuperSAINT Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 dont remember him on anyones HCDAJFU list? Bored at work, so had a look : He's had a few mentions (2012 / 2013 / 2014 & even Rebel mentioned him on 25-07-2015 in the HCDAJFU thread)
mcbendy Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 I prefer these 'all touches' type videos. It gives you a better sense of what the player is about then a few cherry-picked highlights:
Convict Colony Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 I see that Romeo song and raise you this
mcbendy Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Fee of £4 mil? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3195167/Chelsea-midfielder-Oriol-Romeu-set-Southampton-medical-Wednesday-clubs-agree-4m-fee-Spanish-star.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
trousers Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 I prefer these 'all touches' type videos. It gives you a better sense of what the player is about then a few cherry-picked highlights: In that footage he stays so deep its almost like having a 3rd centre back. Defo suits our style.
verlaine1979 Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 I prefer these 'all touches' type videos. It gives you a better sense of what the player is about then a few cherry-picked highlights: Looks strong and a reasonable passer with both feet. Wonder if we could move Clasie further forward in place of Davis or JWP, where his ability with through-balls etc might be better utilised?
NickG Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 The Cork replacement. Plays like him in exactly the same way as far as I can see. I am sure he is pleased to hear that after learning his trade with Barcelona, and playing for Chelsea's first team he has reached the level of Swansea's sub!
trousers Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Looks strong and a reasonable passer with both feet. Wonder if we could move Clasie further forward in place of Davis or JWP, where his ability with through-balls etc might be better utilised? Was thinking the same. Something like this as our strongest starting 11...? ----------- Steklenberg --------------- Cedric - Fonte - VvD (stc) - Bertrand ----- Romeu -------- Wanyama ------ -------------- Clasie ------------------- -- Mane -----------------Jrod/Tadic* -- -------------- Pelle --------------------- Bench (7 from 10): Gazza, Caulker, Yoshida, Martina, JWP, Davis, Reed, Juanmi, Long, Tadic/JRod* (*can't choose between these two)
Saint Charlie Posted 12 August, 2015 Posted 12 August, 2015 Could be possible that its 2 from 3 of Clasie, Romeu and Wanyama rather than all of them playing. Still room for a player like Davis if played in front of a more solid base.
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