SuperMikey Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Could this infer we have given up on VVD ? Lets not forget we already signed Caulker I think it depends on how the club rate Stephens, Turnbull & McCarthy - no point in us going out to sign a young CB who could block their progress should we deem that they have good enough potential. I think Yoshida's earned the right with his performances over the last couple of years to have a decent run in the team alongside Fonte, and Caulker is solid enough to step in should either of them get injured. I think we'd be fine with the above for this season, and we can re-evaluate in the summer depending on how our youngsters do this season on their respective loans and game time in the U21s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpedro Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Should be a very good acquisition if true, and strengthens that area of the squad that looked a little thin. It would also allow more rotation of the centre midfielders which I think is crucial given the prospect of more midweek matches. The only downside is that Reed will get less playing time and his development may be hindered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Hope the medical guys give his knees a good examination. According to Wiki he's had a couple of knee injuries! Don't worry, Dr Eva will check him over for us, give him a full workout. Ohhh missus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Very promising - sounds like an astute signing Get it done Saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 I give him thirty minutes in his first game before people on here write him off. Why wait, lets write him off now....bloody pub footballer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody00028 Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Some Chelsea fans saying he deserved more of a chance and they prefer him to Mikel. Hopefully proves to be a shrewd signing. That's not saying much given how low Chelsea fan's opinions of Mikel are. Could be a tidy find though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Should be a very good acquisition if true, and strengthens that area of the squad that looked a little thin. It would also allow more rotation of the centre midfielders which I think is crucial given the prospect of more midweek matches. The only downside is that Reed will get less playing time and his development may be hindered. Reed drops down the pecking order a bit but the number of games we get hopefully means he should still get enough games to continue developing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Is the injury on Clasie that serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Wonder if we maybe see Clasie playing a little further forward, or it will be two of three from Romeu, Wanyama and Clasie when all fit. Possibly could play all three as Cedric is obscenely attacking and requires cover, whilst Bertrand can push on too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Interesting move. Get him and VVD in and I would declare myself satisfied. Someone frame this post. Alpine could yet be 'satisfied'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 F**k me, should I carry on complaining then ? We'd rather you did Alps, too much change is never a good thing...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 All this is well and good .... but what is he like on FM15 of FIFA15 or whatever the stupid games are called? Only then will we know if he's good enough for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Someone frame this post. Alpine could yet be 'satisfied'. Parrallel universe, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 I think it depends on how the club rate Stephens, Turnbull & McCarthy - no point in us going out to sign a young CB who could block their progress should we deem that they have good enough potential. I think Yoshida's earned the right with his performances over the last couple of years to have a decent run in the team alongside Fonte, and Caulker is solid enough to step in should either of them get injured. I think we'd be fine with the above for this season, and we can re-evaluate in the summer depending on how our youngsters do this season on their respective loans and game time in the U21s. We still need another CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 If we are taking this guy can we get Chelsea's doctor as well appears she has incurred the wrath of the special one. Always think the medical team is very important at any club and she looks good..........................at her ermmm job I strongly second this proposal...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 F**k me, should I carry on complaining then ? NO please don't, hence my praising of the Lord for this miracle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Someone frame this post. Alpine could yet be 'satisfied'. We'd rather you did Alps, too much change is never a good thing...... Or you could just stop quoting him because nobody cares what that idiot thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Or you could just stop quoting him because nobody cares what that idiot thinks. SOGGY seems to care intensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Interesting move. Get him and VVD in and I would declare myself satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 We still need another CB. So how would you plan on rotating Fonte, Yoshida, Stephens, Turnbull, McCarthy, possibly Caulker AND a new CB next season? I don't want to see us become another club like Chelsea where we just farm our young players out on loan - we take risks on involving our kids in the first team and I think that's why we won't sign another CB as we'll give that opportunity to at least one of the 3 we have coming through now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stud mark of doom Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 This edit: he fits the profile of the kind of player we target though.... young, bags of potential, champions league appearances, plenty of 'Under xx' appearances for Spain, hungry , etc. Spain and Hungary? Puskas in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 The Cork replacement. Plays like him in exactly the same way as far as I can see. I got bored of watching him play safe passes after about 3 minutes of the video, was about to complain that the video didn't show any clips of him marking, pressing or closing down generally, nor winning the ball or intercepting, before I realised just how tedious that would have been to watch. I'll reserve opinion until I've seen him once, and then again on a few more matches, and keep revising it depending on how things change, but I'm totally in favour of us trying to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Is the injury on Clasie that serious? Sold Cork and Schneiderlin, we're still a DM down even with Clasie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Interesting move. Get him and VVD in and I would declare myself satisfied. Followed by storms and pestilence and the world ending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Interesting addition, completely out of the blue. Must be following Stoke's example - stocking up on players who have won the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 TBF when people post old threads with Alps comments he seems to go through the same Cycle every year for the past 7-8 years, much like Arsenals 'Title Cycle' WHY AREN'T WE SIGNING ANYONE FFS>WOW WE'VE SIGNED SOMEONE>WE NEED MORE SIGNINGS>SIGNINGS ARE ****>WOW SIGINGS ARE ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD> WE MIGHT GET TOP 4 (OR PROMOTION/WIN THE LEAGUE) IF WE CARRY ON>OH NO WE'VE ****ED IT UP SHOULD OF SIGNED A SOMEONE IN JANUARY>ALL OUR BEST PLAYERS ARE LEAVING>WHY HAVEN'T WE SIGNED ANYONE FFS>WOW WE'VE SIGNED SOMEONE..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 So how would you plan on rotating Fonte, Yoshida, Stephens, Turnbull, McCarthy, possibly Caulker AND a new CB next season? I don't want to see us become another club like Chelsea where we just farm our young players out on loan - we take risks on involving our kids in the first team and I think that's why we won't sign another CB as we'll give that opportunity to at least one of the 3 we have coming through now. I don't think there's any chance of us becoming anything like Chelsea with such a ridiculously bloated squad, and let's not forget that Yoshida wasn't rated by most on here as a starting XI quality CB last season and he did make a lot of mistakes - there has been a sea-change of opinion regarding his quality on here and also remember that Caulker is only here for a season atm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpedro Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 So how would you plan on rotating Fonte, Yoshida, Stephens, Turnbull, McCarthy, possibly Caulker AND a new CB next season? I don't want to see us become another club like Chelsea where we just farm our young players out on loan - we take risks on involving our kids in the first team and I think that's why we won't sign another CB as we'll give that opportunity to at least one of the 3 we have coming through now. You forget Gardos. There is not going to be room for everyone, as you say. Caulker I think is a bit of a punt, particularly as he has not loaned and not signed. He will have to really impress if he is to get a deal, and I think was more brought in as the Carling Cup, bench option, rather than as a guaranteed starter. I do think we need a definite starter centre back this season as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Someone frame this post. Alpine could yet be 'satisfied'. That sounds like one hell of a Toblerone..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 So assuming that we get these two in that will make, what, 8 additions this summer? Dry beds tonight maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 So how would you plan on rotating Fonte, Yoshida, Stephens, Turnbull, McCarthy, possibly Caulker AND a new CB next season? I don't want to see us become another club like Chelsea where we just farm our young players out on loan - we take risks on involving our kids in the first team and I think that's why we won't sign another CB as we'll give that opportunity to at least one of the 3 we have coming through now. Stephens, Turnbull and McCarthy have to prove themselves worthy of a first team place first. The fact that they are on loan at Swindon and Boro suggests they aren't. Caulker is just a loan until Gardos is fit as far as I can tell. Fonte will turn 33 next season, he's getting to the age where we need to start thinking about a long term replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Another lad not fancied by Mourinho (Like Ryan) but has a good pedigree andwould be a very good addition to the squad. I like the sound of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 TBF when people post old threads with Alps comments he seems to go through the same Cycle every year for the past 7-8 years, much like Arsenals 'Title Cycle' WHY AREN'T WE SIGNING ANYONE FFS>WOW WE'VE SIGNED SOMEONE>WE NEED MORE SIGNINGS>SIGNINGS ARE ****>WOW SIGINGS ARE ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD> WE MIGHT GET TOP 4 (OR PROMOTION/WIN THE LEAGUE) IF WE CARRY ON>OH NO WE'VE ****ED IT UP SHOULD OF SIGNED A SOMEONE IN JANUARY>ALL OUR BEST PLAYERS ARE LEAVING>WHY HAVEN'T WE SIGNED ANYONE FFS>WOW WE'VE SIGNED SOMEONE..................... I'd rather be passionate and emotional about it than sitting on the fence the whole time like some nameless on here who continually try to occupy the moral high-ground. Not sure that I really say all our signings are sh*t, btw.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Someone frame this post. Alpine could yet be 'satisfied'. Its happened before, but he quickly returns to his negative jumping to conclusions without evidence ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 I am quite excited by this signing its exactly what we need. I remember him playing at Chelsea and was impressed - height, defensive can fill in at centre back. Has had a few injuries but you don't play for Barca, Chelsea, Valencia and Stuttgart if you are sh1te. A midfield of Vic, Romeu and Clasie would give us a great platform. Bertrand and Cedric giving us width and with our options of the 5 forwards we look very good on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScepticalStan Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Romeu' date=' Romeu, wherefore art thou Romeu?[/quote'] Having a medical apparently Ha! One of the most misunderstood Shakespeare quotes. In the context, 'wherefore?' actually roughly translates as 'why?'. (Juliet is musing about why she had to fall in love with Romeo as opposed to someone more 'suitable'. She is not, as many would believe, leaning over the balcony and asking where he is). Anyway, back to football, Romeu was very highly regarded by a lot of Chelsea fans and many were sad to see him go. Seems like a very canny signing. Definitely good to get some physical strength in the midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Ha! One of the most misunderstood Shakespeare quotes. In the context, 'wherefore?' actually roughly translates as 'why?'. (Juliet is musing about why she had to fall in love with Romeo as opposed to someone more 'suitable'. She is not, as many would believe, leaning over the balcony and asking where he is). Anyway, back to football, Romeu was very highly regarded by a lot of Chelsea fans and many were sad to see him go. Seems like a very canny signing. Definitely good to get some physical strength in the midfield. Ah, so now ScepticalBard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Ha! One of the most misunderstood Shakespeare quotes. In the context, 'wherefore?' actually roughly translates as 'why?'. (Juliet is musing about why she had to fall in love with Romeo as opposed to someone more 'suitable'. She is not, as many would believe, leaning over the balcony and asking where he is). Anyway, back to football, Romeu was very highly regarded by a lot of Chelsea fans and many were sad to see him go. Seems like a very canny signing. Definitely good to get some physical strength in the midfield. I'm still trying to figure out how A Midsummer Night's Dream qualifies as a comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanyamaisatank Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 like a physical jack cork! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Caulker I think is a bit of a punt Charming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 I am quite excited by this signing its exactly what we need. I remember him playing at Chelsea and was impressed - height, defensive can fill in at centre back. Has had a few injuries but you don't play for Barca, Chelsea, Valencia and Stuttgart if you are sh1te. A midfield of Vic, Romeu and Clasie would give us a great platform. Bertrand and Cedric giving us width and with our options of the 5 forwards we look very good on paper. :badger: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 like a physical jack cork! As opposed to a virtual one....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 I'm still trying to figure out how A Midsummer Night's Dream qualifies as a comedy. Anything with a Bottom in it has to be good for a laugh! And I suppose a Puck is out of the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edprice1984 Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Spoken to a few of my Chelski supporting mates and they all say that he is a good player, who should have been given more of a chance after his injury. But since Matic has come back there wasn't really any place for him, plus he was a AVB player which apparantly has been an issue for some players since the 'Special One' returned. One of my mates did actually say that is pretty difficult to track who is doing what and where sometimes due to the sheer number of players on loan. 23 according to wiki!...with a further 26 in the u21 or reserves (inc. Romeu) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/chelsea-midfielder-oriol-romeu-eager-work-under-jose-mourinho-open-new-loan-move-1505632 seems like he has a pretty good head, also. Honest about where he is at - knows that unless he has a blinding season, he won't be a regular at Chelsea. Keen to work hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Hopefully Clasie's ankle/knee/leg injury isn't too bad then Ron has a decent number of midfield options! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 So how would you plan on rotating Fonte, Yoshida, Stephens, Turnbull, McCarthy, possibly Caulker AND a new CB next season? I don't want to see us become another club like Chelsea where we just farm our young players out on loan - we take risks on involving our kids in the first team and I think that's why we won't sign another CB as we'll give that opportunity to at least one of the 3 we have coming through now. The kids aren't ready yet. Our reputation for giving young players chances seems to be almost exclusively for attacking-minded players (I'm including Shaw and Chambers in that); CB and GK are positions where you can't afford to be bullied around - a mistake could easily equal an opposition goal - and players tend to keep getting better with age. Look at Terry and Fonte, two of the best CBs in the league. If Turnbull were playing CB against Man City or somebody then there's a good chance he wouldn't have the physicality or experience to deal with their attackers and end up making mistakes, causing us to concede goals and for his confidence to go down the pan. Young attacking players, great, the more the merrier. Young CBs/GKs - get them out on loan until they're ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 TBF when people post old threads with Alps comments he seems to go through the same Cycle every year for the past 7-8 years, much like Arsenals 'Title Cycle' WHY AREN'T WE SIGNING ANYONE FFS>WOW WE'VE SIGNED SOMEONE>WE NEED MORE SIGNINGS>SIGNINGS ARE ****>WOW SIGNINGS ARE ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD> WE MIGHT GET TOP 4 (OR PROMOTION/WIN THE LEAGUE) IF WE CARRY ON>OH NO WE'VE ****ED IT UP SHOULD OF SIGNED A SOMEONE IN JANUARY>ALL OUR BEST PLAYERS ARE LEAVING>WHY HAVEN'T WE SIGNED ANYONE FFS>WOW WE'VE SIGNED SOMEONE..................... Nicely summarised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Originally Posted by the saint in winchester View Post Someone frame this post. Alpine could yet be 'satisfied'. That sounds like one hell of a Toblerone..... just drawing attention to this. top quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Do we know what the fee is? Somebody on Reddit has said around £5m but I don't know where they got that from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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