Saint-Armstrong Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 A goal at the very start from Pellè and then one at the very end for Mané. Saints through, and comfortable. Into tomorrow's draw for the final qualifying round. Go...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr27 Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Seeded or unseeded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 6 August, 2015 Author Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Seeded. Minsk just eliminated Zürich to wrap it up, by my reckoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Wasn't expecting such a resounding win over those 2 legs - very pleasing indeed. What's even more pleasing is that Wet Sham out and Dortmund only just squeaked through against RZ Pellets (me neither). What are our odds on winning this thing again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diabolus Ex Machina Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 As a spectacle it wasn't very good but a win, clean sheet and through to the next round so can't complain. Almost like an exhibition game after the first goal went in so no need to discuss individual performances. What I would say is that with our increased squad depth and competition for places players really should be taking every chance they can to impress. Good to have a bit of momentum going into the new prem season as well. Bring on Newcastle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 First and most importantly, it's a job done. Dire game, but that suited us. Positives Pelle looks in good nick Martina looks decent considering Keeper is good Negatives Can't get the wider midfield players into the game when we play Mane up top with Pelle. May be a personnel issue as Davis, JWP, and Tadic aren't suited to it. Caulker looks like he has a way to go to be up to scratch for what we need Enough space for an oil tanker through the centre of the park at times JWP is struggling to get involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Great start. great finish. Very forgetable in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 That'll do. Didn't exactly set the pitch on fire but then we didn't need to tonight, especially after Pellés goal. Needs some work to get that back line working together properly but then Caulker is new so I expected him to be a bit out of shape tonight. Now pray for the right draw in the next round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Great performance from the full backs despite some of the prematch experts on here Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 If Vitesse had any kind of strikers on the pitch then they would of made our defence look pants. A touch worried as Caulker does not look that good on early viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 First and most importantly, it's a job done. Dire game, but that suited us. Positives Pelle looks in good nick Martina looks decent considering Keeper is good Negatives Can't get the wider midfield players into the game when we play Mane up top with Pelle. May be a personnel issue as Davis, JWP, and Tadic aren't suited to it. Caulker looks like he has a way to go to be up to scratch for what we need Enough space for an oil tanker through the centre of the park at times JWP is struggling to get involved I'd agree with that. I'd add that Wanyama looks isolated without Morgan's energy alongside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtead Saint Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 and West Ham now out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Seeded or unseeded Seeded. [TABLE=class: t1, width: 100%] [TR=class: yellow, bgcolor: #FFFFCC] [TH]4th Qualifying Round (44 teams)[/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Seeded teams coef. Unseeded teams coef. ------------------------ --- ---------------- ------------------------ --- ---------------- Borussia Dortmund *3 Ger 99.883 FC Zürich *3 Sui 16.875 Ajax @3 Ned 66.195 Slovan Liberec *3 Cze 16.325 Rubin Kazan *3 Rus 57.099 Southampton FC *3 Eng 16.078 Athletic Bilbao *3 Esp 56.999 West Ham United * Eng 16.078 AZ Alkmaar *3 Ned 46.695 FK Krasnodar *3 Rus 15.099 FC Salzburg @3 Aut 43.135 CF Os Belenenses *3 Por 12.276 Viktoria Plzen @3 Cze 41.825 Rosenborg BK * Nor 11.875 FC København ** Den 40.960 IF Elfsborg * Swe 11.545 PAOK Thessaloniki ** Gre 40.880 Garabag Agdam @3 Azb 11.500 Steaua Bucuresti @3 Rom 40.259 Hajduk Split * Cro 11.200 Trabzonspor ** Tur 36.520 HJK Helsinki @3 Fin 11.140 Young Boys @3 Sui 31.375 Vorskla Poltava *3 Ukr 11.033 Sparta Praha @3 Cze 30.825 Zorya Luhansk *3 Ukr 10.533 Fenerbahçe @3 Tur 30.020 Apollon Limassol * Cyp 10.460 Standard Liège *3 Bel 25.440 Omonia Nicosia * Cyp 10.460 Legia Warsaw ** Pol 24.800 Atromitos FC *3 Gre 10.380 Girondins Bordeaux *3 Fra 24.483 Molde FK @3 Nor 10.375 Panathinaikos @3 Gre 19.880 FC Thun ** Sui 10.375 Sampdoria *3 Ita 18.102 FC Midtjylland @3 Den 7.960 Vitória Guimarães *3 Por 17.776 Videoton Fehérvár @3 Hun 7.950 Lech Poznan @3 Pol 17.300 Aberdeen * Sco 4.580 AS Saint-Étienne *3 Fra 16.983 Milsami Orhei @3 Mol 3.750[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Source: http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedel2015.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 efficient team performance with some crap individual efforts there general play was rubbish but a mish-mash defence played a part in that The keeper looks very solid Martina was pretty good tonight Davis was good Mane and Pelle look good this summer JWP, Tadic were very very poor caulker was poor in first 10 mins or so, then looked alright. Hope he just needs game time to get QPR out of his system if we are seeded, that is fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Great results over the two games. Domination from start to finish. Wanyama and Davis shone again. JWP needs to go out on loan somewhere as he looks out of his depth in our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Okay, that became a bit of a mess. There were two columns with the seeded teams in the left and the unseeded ones in the right. Of the seeded teams FC Copenhagen and Trabzonspor have gone out and FC Zurich would have gone to the seeded teams ahead of us but have gone out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr27 Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 It's on Wiki that we're seeded, so must be true.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Professional job from Saints. Through the tie safely with minimal effort and no injuries that I'm aware of. Couldn't care less how well Tadic and JWP played, we never needed to rip Vitesse to pieces and we didn't exactly commit people forward. The real test will come on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 One word....professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Why did our keeper get a yellow? Worrying. Also, saw very little of him, but Caulker looked well off the pace, and generally poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 (edited) That's as comfortable as it gets. Excellent result over the two ties. An underwhelming yet professional performance tonight. Never any need for the players to get out of 2nd gear. WE MARCH ON! Edited 6 August, 2015 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 The early goal meant the game was never going to be a classic - job done and done very well over the two legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 The game was so rubbish - but who cares we looked solid throughout. Apart from a Caulker brainfart on a set-piece we were very comfortable. He made a few vital challenges and interceptions, he cut out alot of low crosses and redeemed himself. Positives from tonight are that we're only playing in third gear and we were very comfortable throughout - the big thing was to win with no injuries. Performance wise, Pelle, Mane were both good when called upon (without ever really excelling themselves) Yoshida should never play left back, great defensivily but going forward is painful to watch. Cuco Martina, solid throughout and looked athletic and like a shrewd signing who will play ALOT in this competition. JWP, mixed performance set up the first goal, a nice free kick and corner, and can drive when need be, he just needs to work on the physical side of his game and bulk up and have more belief in his undoubted ability, I have faith he'll hit some form with more games in the EUROPA this season. Tadic, probably a passenger, forgot he was playing, looked like he wasn't bothered and like he wanted to just focus on Sunday, our worst player. Davis, solid as always without ever standing out, played an average game but worked hard. Wanyama, again played to not get injured and took it easy, looked very laid back but still was a cut above their MF. So really no standout performances, some mixed ones and if i had to choose an MOM i'm gonna go with Pelle, some nice knock ons a well taken goal which set up the easy victory. He worked hard and looks like a man with confidence. I think we're holding back for Sunday which will see the high intensity game back and hopefully Tadic will shine as we know he can do, as he's looked shaky in his last two games. Thankfully Mane is looking superb... even today at 60 per cent he scored a well taken goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 We got the early goal meaning we just had to play a containing game, which we did very efficiently. It wasn't pretty, and we obviously conceded a lot of possession in midfield as a result of not needing to commit players forward, but we played a very good tactical game and got the result. A 2-0 away win in European competition is not to be sniffed at. I hope all the travelling fans who were lucky enough to get tickets enjoyed themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Efficient and professional. No need for fireworks at this stage, and seemingly we are good enough to get these sorts of results in Europe - away from home. Very impressive, really. Martina looks solid, although rarely tested. Stek looks a safe pair of hands, and Mane will just be a barrel of fun this year. On a final note, welcome back Jay Rodriguez. Great moment for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUS Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Okay, that became a bit of a mess. There were two columns with the seeded teams in the left and the unseeded ones in the right. Of the seeded teams FC Copenhagen and Trabzonspor have gone out and FC Zurich would have gone to the seeded teams ahead of us but have gone out as well. Better viewed via the link. Sampdoria may well go out as well, so looks good for us. Happy days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Better viewed via the link. Sampdoria may well go out as well, so looks good for us. Happy days! Hope we don't draw Kairat..anyone else fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 REKT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diabolus Ex Machina Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 At least the game gave us another classic Koeman moment VIDEO: https://twitter.com/talkSAINTS/statu...74717485547521 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 not happy at all over here - http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=159355&start=1500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 not happy at all over here - http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=159355&start=1500 Utter moronic management. What is the point of fielding a weakened team at this stage, when they are at Arsenal, which they are unlikely to win anyway? I'd be furious if i was a WHU fan, this is worse than those week teams MP put out. The media will try and spin it as it being good for West Ham, but this isn't shaping up to be a pretty season for them - in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 not happy at all over here - http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=159355&start=1500 We would be the same - weird decision by Bilic and the dildo twins to play the reserves/kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Why did our keeper get a yellow? Worrying. Also, saw very little of him, but Caulker looked well off the pace, and generally poor. Time wasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Utter moronic management. What is the point of fielding a weakened team at this stage, when they are at Arsenal, which they are unlikely to win anyway? I'd be furious if i was a WHU fan, this is worse than those week teams MP put out. The media will try and spin it as it being good for West Ham, but this isn't shaping up to be a pretty season for them - in my opinion. Bilic masked it as not being about Arsenal, but more about the season in general. Whilst I appreciate that West Ham are in a bit of a period of transition, I am not sure how much better they think they can be in the Premier League if they dropped the Europa League unless Bilic thinks they are so bad they could get relegated. West Ham fans deserve better too - with it being the last season at the current ground some big European games could have been a great way to say goodbye to their current home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 We won that whole tie in 3rd gear which is pleasing. Pretty dull game but great result. Steklenburg looks very assured and I thought Caulker grew into the game well. Midfield was disappointing but at 4-0 up for most of the tie won't worry too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Great watching Skate James squirming on BT had to say good things that hurt! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianSaint Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Have to stop beer on Thursday not good for work I ****ing love saints and I ****ing love koeman and I ****ing love you all all the **** we had all the **** in drawing or losing to **** teams and ****ing Leeds ****ing Leeds attacking and needing kelvin Davies to ****ing save us and beating Carlisle in the jpt trophy that was ****ing amazing and putting six past oldham but **** we are Europe and **** we won again I ****ing love it we are the saints and **** everybody especially that **** Phil Neville who thought we would be relegated what a **** we are ****ing awesome I love you all you are all ****ing awesome apart from the whingy bastards when we aren't 3 0 up in 10 minutes ****ing awesome love ****ing everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianSaint Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 And **** Paul allens yacht as well who needs Microsoft the ****ers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbendy Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Shout out to Yoshida. Caulker didn't have a dreadful game, but on several occasions I was reassured to see Maya in the defensive mix. He is a hugely improved player. Not a LB, but a decent CB. Ahead of Caulker IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 YES Cumbrian Saint! ******* brilliant post!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Shout out to Yoshida. Caulker didn't have a dreadful game, but on several occasions I was reassured to see Maya in the defensive mix. He is a hugely improved player. Not a LB, but a decent CB. Ahead of Caulker IMO. He is miles ahead of Caulker. Caulker looks scarred from his last two seasons - he looked decent at Swansea to be fair, but some of the things he did tonight weren't great. He has shown he is capable a few years ago, so he'll need to get up to speed in training as I don't like the idea of him doing it in games that matter. There will be mistakes to come, the key will be that they are the last time he makes them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Yoshida was excellent. Caulker, worrying. Stekeleburg, as I said ages ago, miles better than Forster, he'll prove that this season. Still need a solid, polished centre half and for me, another centre mid to help wanyama out in the more difficult games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Yeah, good first 5 minutes ended the tie as a contest, if the first leg didn't already. We weren't tested and move on Those that cause concern : JWP, Davis, Tadic are passengers. Not contributing. Let's get a real winger in. Serge Gnabry, before West Brom sign him. We are just too narrow, need to use the width of the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Have to stop beer on Thursday not good for work I ****ing love saints and I ****ing love koeman and I ****ing love you all all the **** we had all the **** in drawing or losing to **** teams and ****ing Leeds ****ing Leeds attacking and needing kelvin Davies to ****ing save us and beating Carlisle in the jpt trophy that was ****ing amazing and putting six past oldham but **** we are Europe and **** we won again I ****ing love it we are the saints and **** everybody especially that **** Phil Neville who thought we would be relegated what a **** we are ****ing awesome I love you all you are all ****ing awesome apart from the whingy bastards when we aren't 3 0 up in 10 minutes ****ing awesome love ****ing everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 "With just four minutes played, James Ward-Prowse failed to control a deflected cross and the ball fell to Pelle, who took one touch to change direction and set himself before firing home on his left foot." [bBC] Watching it he made a complete dogs breakfast of controlling the ball. I don't want to make anything of this, but this is why "assists" are so over-rated. I would guess Prowsey will get an assist, but it was a complete **** up that fell nicely for Pelle to score. But well done to everyone, stroll in the park, never stretched, never really threatened, 5 goal cushion. Bring on the next "opposition". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Yeah, good first 5 minutes ended the tie as a contest, if the first leg didn't already. We weren't tested and move on Those that cause concern : JWP, Davis, Tadic are passengers. Not contributing. Let's get a real winger in. Serge Gnabry, before West Brom sign him. We are just too narrow, need to use the width of the pitch. When we have Bertrand and Cedric width won't be a problem. Martina did well again considering we were told by some he was crap. Offers options going forward Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 6 August, 2015 Author Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Erwin doing all the post-match media. Looks like Ronald might need surgery tomorrow (in Holland) that'll lay him up in hospital for an achilles tear/snap. In which case, good luck to Erwin for his game(s) in charge of Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 I don't know why everyone is worried about Caulker. The lad will do ok for us, he's had a disrupted pre season and is trying to fit into a new system. He didn't start well but he grew into the game and made some very good challenges. The thing that would bother me more is the gaping hole in midfield. If we play like that against Newcastle they will over run us but I am pretty sure that the players dropped a gear after Pelle's goal. There was no need to keep such a high tempo. Overall i'm very happy. We've had a decent confidence building pre season and have won our first two competitive games of the season 5-0 without being particularly troubled. Newcastle's pre season hasn't been great and they lost to York so I think we'll be going into the game with a lot more confidence than them. Add to all that, that we are now seeded, it's been a cracking start to the season. COYS!!!!!!! P.S. Big shout out to Martina who looked very comfortable. Funny how some fans never learn to not write off a player before they've got going ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 IErwin doing all the post-match media. Looks like Ronald might need surgery tomorrow (in Holland) that'll lay him up in hospital for an achilles tear/snap. In which case, good luck to Erwin for his game(s) in charge of Saints. I knew someone that had snapped their achilles and had to be in a wheelchair for about 2 weeks as the leg had to be kept elevated! Hopefully things have moved on since then but this isn't going to give us a great start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Have to stop beer on Thursday not good for work I ****ing love saints and I ****ing love koeman and I ****ing love you all all the **** we had all the **** in drawing or losing to **** teams and ****ing Leeds ****ing Leeds attacking and needing kelvin Davies to ****ing save us and beating Carlisle in the jpt trophy that was ****ing amazing and putting six past oldham but **** we are Europe and **** we won again I ****ing love it we are the saints and **** everybody especially that **** Phil Neville who thought we would be relegated what a **** we are ****ing awesome I love you all you are all ****ing awesome apart from the whingy bastards when we aren't 3 0 up in 10 minutes ****ing awesome love ****ing everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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