mcbendy Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Injured, again http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33801783 WhoScored.com @WhoScored Jack Wilshere: Arsenal won just 22.2% of the PL matches which Wilshere started last season compared to 69% of the games he did not start Seems to me to be massively over-rated, even when he is occasionally fit to play. Can't believe that Wenger can't see it. A Schneiderlin or Wanyama could turn them into genuine title contenders. Trying to play Wilshire in defensive midfield is laughable. He's a ming vase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightysaints Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 always said he is over rated. Every time I have seen him play at St Marys he is on the floor looking at the ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Ankle seems really weak. Not sure if it is the same ankle each time or not. October 2009 - Ankle (out for five weeks) January 2010 - Hamstring (five weeks) November 2010 - Back (two weeks) August 2011 - Ankle (14 months) February 2013 - Hip (one week) March 2013 - Ankle (four weeks) May 2013 - Ankle surgery (seven weeks) October 2013 - Ankle (two weeks) January 2014 - Ankle (two weeks) March 2014 - Ankle (two months) October 2014 - Ankle (two weeks) November 2014 - Ankle (five months) August 2015 - Ankle (estimated two months) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3186318/Arsenal-crock-Jack-Wilshere-set-spell-sidelines-injuring-ankle.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Sir Robin Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Lol Don't go giving them ideas about Wanyama though, you never know who might be reading this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 A very good player who is perhaps over rated mainly because of his dreadful run of injuries over the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block34 Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Lol Don't go giving them ideas about Wanyama though, you never know who might be reading this Made of candy floss that Wanyama bloke, no strength, bambi-legs, can't even stand up in the wind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Ankle seems really weak. Not sure if it is the same ankle each time or not. Even if its not, he only has 2 to select from. Does seem very injury prone, but don't agree that Wilshere is overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 His two goals for England were quality but if he was a horse they would have shot him by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 His two goals for England were quality but if he was a horse they would have shot him by now. Problem is they are the exception rather than the rule with Jackie boy. Bit like Andros Townsend an occasional fleeting glimpse of quality in England shirt helps to hide the utter dross the player puts in the other 90% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diabolus Ex Machina Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Has shown flashes of brilliance but never able to get a run of games and show he can do it consistently so i'd agree he is overrated based on what he's actually done. Injuries really have hampered him though - from angelmans post that's 13 injuries in the space of 6 years amounting to about 29 months of missed time which is practically 2 1/2 years! You wonder if he ever will manage to reach his full potential or not. Still only 23 years old mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Yep massively overrated imo. Genuinely bemused Wenger didn't pursue Morgan, can't see them being anywhere near the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Great player but Arsenal isn't the club to be at if you have physical issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosin Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Gunners dont play to his strengths, he is a very direct player would suit a counter attacking team or a team that dont pass a trillion times in the goal area before taking a shot at goal.............. He is not world class, but he is a top player though, just needs to stay injury free for a couple of seasons, i would say he is an advanced playmaker, sitting behind 2 strikers playing a 4 1 2 1 2 diamond formation would suit him best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Ankle seems really weak. Not sure if it is the same ankle each time or not. Both ankles! Even when fit though he doesn't exactly light the place up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 With his record of injury he could be called 'Sicknote Mark 2' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 this thread title sounds like the beginning of an epic song to sing when playing arsenal at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 If he wasn't English he would be rated nowhere near where he is. He may have his moments but what use are they if he's almost permanently on the sick bed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Jack Wheelchair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Are we interested in signing him or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbendy Posted 6 August, 2015 Author Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Jack Wheelchair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbendy Posted 6 August, 2015 Author Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Are we interested in signing him or something? Nope, but Arsenal were supposedly interested in signing Morgan/Wanyama and didn't/haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Totally overrated, League 2 players score wonder goals, I know on of his ex-schoolteachers he is also thick and vain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans gruber Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Jack Wheelchair That's gold He is so injury prone I wouldn't even swap him with gaston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Are we interested in signing him or something? my cous cous has just gone all over the pc screen...........quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Doubt if his contract will be renewed but Wroy will still love him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 You have to wonder whether a lot of such injuries are more in the head than the limbs. Some people grin, bear it and play on, but others take the sick role when they've got a niggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 He has been out 30 of the last 70 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Lol at overrated, as a player I think he is excellent, has the right work ethic, technically very good, picks the right passes. Shame he has had so many injuries, darren anderton mk II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Neil Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 7 August, 2015 Share Posted 7 August, 2015 Jack Wheelchair ouch, funny though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 7 August, 2015 Share Posted 7 August, 2015 That's some seriously bad luck for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 7 August, 2015 Share Posted 7 August, 2015 Feel sorry for him really - every time he gets fit for a period of time he picks up another knock. Don't agree that he is overated though - i don't think many are claiming he is world class but he is a very good player. England don't have too many like him - playing with his head up, retaining possession well - that is what gets exposed every tournament, so i totally understand why he gets back in the side as soon as he's fit. He's clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed though - i always think one of the impressive things about our academy grads is that (in general) they come across as intelligent and well educated too, which makes for a better player. The likes of Oxo, Theo and Bale are great examples, as well as JWP now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 7 August, 2015 Share Posted 7 August, 2015 Agree with the above. He is actually a decent player, when he's not on the floor or moaning at the ref. Must be incredibly frustrating to have the talent and continue picking up bad injuries. What must it do to his spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbendy Posted 7 August, 2015 Author Share Posted 7 August, 2015 the fags on the seat are a nice touch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbendy Posted 15 September, 2015 Author Share Posted 15 September, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34259983?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_match_of_the_day&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport ha ha ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 September, 2015 Share Posted 15 September, 2015 He might as well just retire, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Based on what? Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 Wilshere is a tampon type player.......... in for a week, out for a month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 No doubt that Wilshere is made of balsa wood and injury prone however what is it with Arsenal's medical department - when is the last time they managed to successfully diagnose an injury and predict a return to action that wasn't at least 12 weeks wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 Appreciate he is constantly injured and as a result, has never delivered on his potential, but not quite sure why this latest news is funny? Luke Shaw had an injury hit season last year and now this, and no-one's laughing at that. I don't take any particular pleasure in other team's players getting bad injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 Appreciate he is constantly injured and as a result, has never delivered on his potential, but not quite sure why this latest news is funny? Luke Shaw had an injury hit season last year and now this, and no-one's laughing at that. I don't take any particular pleasure in other team's players getting bad injuries. Don't think anyone is laughing to be honest, but Wilshire hasn't just had 1 particularly bad injury hit season. It's been for the last 5 years. He's only 23 and has missed 119 weeks of football - that is just insane. The worry is that it's always the same sort of injuries. Fractures, ligaments, ankles. He's just got a weak structure and the sad thing is that he'll probably never fulfill his career because of this. A few Arsenal fans I know have had enough now, they wished they'd have taken the offer they had from City in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 Don't think anyone is laughing to be honest, but Wilshire hasn't just had 1 particularly bad injury hit season. It's been for the last 5 years. He's only 23 and has missed 119 weeks of football - that is just insane. The worry is that it's always the same sort of injuries. Fractures, ligaments, ankles. He's just got a weak structure and the sad thing is that he'll probably never fulfill his career because of this. A few Arsenal fans I know have had enough now, they wished they'd have taken the offer they had from City in the summer. The laughing comment was directed at mcbendy as much as anything. I'm in agreement with what you say - the injuries are recurring it seems and when you see him out smoking etc, it doesnt take much to jump to a suggestion they might be to do with his professionalism as much as bad luck. A real shame for me, i do actually think he could be a great player if he stayed fit and showed the right attitude - we don't have many players like him from an England perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 The laughing comment was directed at mcbendy as much as anything. I'm in agreement with what you say - the injuries are recurring it seems and when you see him out smoking etc, it doesnt take much to jump to a suggestion they might be to do with his professionalism as much as bad luck. A real shame for me, i do actually think he could be a great player if he stayed fit and showed the right attitude - we don't have many players like him from an England perspective. I've always liked him as a player, he's quite a rare player in the English game - very technical and silky on the ball, someone the England team could do with on a regular basis - but seemingly not possible! I agree that his smoking habits and other habits aren't great, and I'm sure other players do it as well...but when he's having as many fitness problems as he is having, then you do have to look at his lifestyle as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 (edited) Wilshire runs on the outsides of his feet, he is quite bow-legged as well. Because of this he's putting extra stress on his ankles, knees, thighs and hips. Add this to his style of play - meandering runs, constantly getting tackled, it's no wonder he has so many injuries. Edited 17 September, 2015 by Chalkboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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