Saint-Armstrong Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 (edited) According to BILD: http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/schalke/england-wildert-weiter-42049200.bild.html Goretzka is a 6'3" central midfielder who wears the #8 for Schalke, and has represented Germany at every level from U16 to senior team. He's only 20, but has 34 appearances and 5 goals to his name. We've been watching him and are apparently now making our move... Edited 3 August, 2015 by Saint-Armstrong Missed the word 'bid' from title.
tajjuk Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 Hmmn not heard of him but I like this wiki description - Goretzka's head coach at VfL Bochum, said that he had "never seen an eighteen year old footballer which had a potential as Goretzka" and titled him as the "talent of the century"
jasonb Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 "He is considered prone to injury , so came in the last season to just ten Bundesliga matches (35)." Hmm.
jasonb Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 He's played a reasonable amount for someone so young, not sure you can write someone off as injury prone at that age. Not my words... just from that article that Armstrong linked to.
Saint Charlie Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 We watch loads of players so pinch of salt but looks a decent player. Definitely need someone with those attributes though. Hard to imagine Schalke selling.
Saint Matty 76 Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 He's widely regarded as one of the best talents in world football, really can't see this one coming off. Regularly played Champions League football and will probably soon break into the Germany team, had a poor year for injuries but he's absolutely light years ahead of Ward-Prowse from what I've seen of him. Pretty sure most teams in world football wanted him when he was at Bochum. If it did somehow come off though, we'd have signed Spanish, Dutch, Portugese and German full-internationals this summer. Not bad.
jasonb Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 After the previous couple of posts... count me in the "officially excited camp"
Saint-Armstrong Posted 3 August, 2015 Author Posted 3 August, 2015 http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/everything-you-need-know-about-leon-goretzka
S-Clarke Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 I just cannot see how in any way we can get him for that fee, we're talking upwards of £25-30m. Unless he is truly crocked.
EBS1980 Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 If Koeman was confident of new signings before the game on Thursday I imagine we would be past a bid stage with said player for that to happen
Saint Matty 76 Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 Sadly I'd put a lot of money on this being a cover-up for some other CM we're after. Koeman said someone in before Newcastle right?
VectisSaint Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 He's widely regarded as one of the best talents in world football, really can't see this one coming off. Regularly played Champions League football and will probably soon break into the Germany team, had a poor year for injuries but he's absolutely light years ahead of Ward-Prowse from what I've seen of him. Pretty sure most teams in world football wanted him when he was at Bochum. If it did somehow come off though, we'd have signed Spanish, Dutch, Portugese and German full-internationals this summer. Not bad. You forgot Curacaon :-)
Sour Mash Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 If he's as good as suggested, and considering age, current club and pedigree, surely €16m wouldn't be enough for him? And we could stretch to more if seriously interested? I don't follow them closely, but Bild run a lot of transfer stories don't they, some right, some wrong?
Appy Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 Would love this to be true, he's class and so much potential.
Graffito Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 If he's as good as suggested, and considering age, current club and pedigree, surely €16m wouldn't be enough for him? And we could stretch to more if seriously interested? I don't follow them closely, but Bild run a lot of transfer stories don't they, some right, some wrong? I think Bild translates to picture, which probably makes it Germany's version of The Sun.
Sour Mash Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 Bild's headline describes him as a 'Shalke Reserve'?
Sour Mash Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 He only started 3 league games last season, guess that might affect Shalke's view of him.
Latheal Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 Seems a weird one, Shalke one of the wealthiest clubs in the world, zero debt, top 4 challengers in Germany and think he has three years left on his contract so price seems cheap if he's as good as suggested. Although, Bild article suggests he's prone to injury which is why Shalke MAY sell and didn't play a lot last season. Certainly fits what we need though, we are looking very "little" in CM if Big Vic is out (which he will be).
Pastor Patrón Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 76kg at 6'2"? Is this dude made out of prawn crackers or something?
Matthew Le God Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 (edited) 76kg at 6'2"? Is this dude made out of prawn crackers or something? Enter his details into this and it is in the middle of the healthy zone. http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/Healthyweightcalculator.aspx Edited 3 August, 2015 by Matthew Le God
JxgrSaint Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 (edited) Shut the front door! He's the stalwart of my FM save alongside Pogba (hooray for realism), if that's anything to go by we'll walk the league in 4 years If this is a coverup for us signing someone worse that's not a very good idea - would have been like the club leaking that we were in for Alexis Sanchez before signing Long... Edited 3 August, 2015 by JxgrSaint
Saint IQ Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 From his Wiki page. "Goretzka produces powerful shots from outside the penalty area, a trait similar to that of Paul Scholes." Seems to tick all the boxes, we have lacked a CM that can score goals and shoot from distance. Would proabably be a major coup if we signed him.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 3 August, 2015 Author Posted 3 August, 2015 Enter his details into this and it is in the middle of the healthy zone. http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/Healthyweightcalculator.aspx That's a whole new level of MLG.
Ultimatt Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 Hasn't played many minutes in his 2 years at Schalke. http://www.whoscored.com/Players/115519/History/Leon-Goretzka . I wonder if this would work as a loan deal, if we can give him more minutes in the PL than he's getting at Schalke. Seems a hefty price for an unproven player with barely any football last year.
Matthew Le God Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 That's a whole new level of MLG. I like to battle Pastor Patrón with the Hulk version of MLG.
Pastor Patrón Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 Enter his details into this and it is in the middle of the healthy zone. http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/Healthyweightcalculator.aspx It may be healthy but it's full on DYEL mode bro.
Matthew Le God Posted 3 August, 2015 Posted 3 August, 2015 (edited) It appears Andreas Fehse is Southampton's Germany scout... After image information of the seventh last season is willing to pay up to 16 million euros for midfielder Leon Goretzka (20). At the last Schalke test before the season started against Twente Enschede (1: 1) was the Germany-Scout of Southampton in the stands. Andreas Fehse (56), formerly pro at Leverkusen and Rot-Weiss Essen, Goretzka watched very closely. Edited 4 August, 2015 by Matthew Le God
St_Tel49 Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 According to BILD: http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/schalke/england-wildert-weiter-42049200.bild.html Goretzka is a 6'3" central midfielder who wears the #8 for Schalke, and has represented Germany at every level from U16 to senior team. He's only 20, but has 34 appearances and 5 goals to his name. We've been watching him and are apparently now making our move... That is less goals than Steven Davis. He is obviously not good enough for us
Matthew Le God Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 (edited) He keeps coming back, so I need to Hulk smash him! Bruce Banner MLG not strong enough. Need to get angry. Edited 4 August, 2015 by Matthew Le God
Pilchards Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 I don't get this bid at all? It's smells of a decoy to put pressure on another deal elsewhere. Why buy an injury prone player who has only played 3 games last season? Why wait until this late to start a bid in the first place? Koeman has been saying he hopes to have a couple of players in this week and you would think someone has already been shown around Staplewood, St Mary's already. I will put my neck out and say it's the Sevilla midfielder, Celtic's Virgil and Adama as being the 3rd maybe signing Koeman spoke about. On twitter the Liverpool ITK said it's certainly not a deal in the pipeline while the Stoke ITK said that Saints have come in with a late bid to sign the Barca player. Very interesting week ahead I say.
ericofarabia Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 amazing on FM. That's it - the official seal of approval ... sign him up asap.
SaintTex Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 I don't know if this exactly legitimizes the rumour, but it has officially hit the English papers. Southampton target Schalke ace to replace Schneiderlin after Manchester United move http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/595876/Southampton-Transfer-News-Leon-Goretzka-replace-Morgan-Schneiderlin
whelk Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 Enter his details into this and it is in the middle of the healthy zone. http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/Healthyweightcalculator.aspx 11 stone for 6ft 2 must have legs like Peter Crouch. I'm same height and dread to think what I'd look like if lost 5 stone.
del boy Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 I don't know if this exactly legitimizes the rumour, but it has officially hit the English papers. Southampton target Schalke ace to replace Schneiderlin after Manchester United move http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/595876/Southampton-Transfer-News-Leon-Goretzka-replace-Morgan-Schneiderlin But it turns out that the headline stems from the "fact" that Saints had a scout at a game! It might just be a case of speculation....which positions are Saints looking to strengthen, what sort of money might be involved? Ah yes, that'll do, let's run an exclusive!
Batman Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 Not too sure what to make of this speculation. Probably wide of the mark Hardly started last season. Can't see how that would make him such an exciting signing?
Lorne Malvo Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 Not too sure what to make of this speculation. Probably wide of the mark Hardly started last season. Can't see how that would make him such an exciting signing? Played more than JRod....imagine if we were to sell him for this amount.
Batman Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 Played more than JRod....imagine if we were to sell him for this amount. But we never and wouldn't.
Ken Tone Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 11 stone for 6ft 2 must have legs like Peter Crouch. I'm same height and dread to think what I'd look like if lost 5 stone. Well at 16 stone, you're about 3 stone overweight for your height mush, so maybe you'd look , erm .... better? He's only 20, so he'll fill out a bit yet I imagine.
Batman Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 (edited) Exactly But they could be. For a pretty low fee This is not us going to Holland or Scotland, where we can use financial muscle to get players we want. This is a very wealthy top side in a top league. Just can get how this would be such an amazing signing. Edited 4 August, 2015 by Batman
Lorne Malvo Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 But they could be. For a pretty low fee This is not us going to Holland or Scotland, where we can use financial muscle to get players we want. This with a very wealthy top side in a top league. Just can get how this would be such an amazing signing. True, although he fits the profile of the type of player we look for. I imagine if he did come our medical test would see how severe his injury problems have been. Schalke are a big club but not sure salary wise they can compete with the prem.
Batman Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 True, although he fits the profile of the type of player we look for. I imagine if he did come our medical test would see how severe his injury problems have been. Schalke are a big club but not sure salary wise they can compete with the prem. They can't compete with Southampton on wages ? I would guess they could. Unless this kid will be our top earner or something. Which he wouldn't
david in sweden Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 He's played a reasonable amount for someone so young, not sure you can write someone off as injury prone at that age. I think that recurring injuries are often down to the manner in which the club handles the problem. Coming back too soon, or... wrong handling of the injury can make the situation worse. We really don't know about this lad's injury record or how he was treated. There must be some magic formula to getting the right treatment or why else would MU have poached " our injury expert " last season....(his name escapes me) Some players called "injury-prone" which might also suggest they have many different types of injury, whereas it's important to ensure they're 100% on return. Alan Shearer once said ...." there's a lot of difference between being match fit ....and being fit enough to play." At present Jay Rod is in the second category. If he's a key player - a club may want him back ASAP.....whereas Saints had fewer soft tissue injuries (according to one quote in the Southampton Way" than any other Prem. club. This is surely down to the right attitude in terms of rehab. I'm sure Jay Rod wanted to get back playing as soon as he could walk properly again, but frustrating as it is (for him and fans) ...he's not reached the level of match fitness where he can play twice a week ( Ronald Koeman quote last week) ....and that means we go a few extra weeks without Jordy Clasie ...then so be it .There more to regaining fitness than just; rest, diet, and a bit of light training. IF... Goretzka comes, and IF....he has problems.... it'll be up to our fitness team to get him upto Prem. standard, before he's reliable enough to play every match.
Ed Rooney Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 :poundit::poundit::poundit: If we got him, can't see it though
whelk Posted 4 August, 2015 Posted 4 August, 2015 Well at 16 stone, you're about 3 stone overweight for your height mush, so maybe you'd look , erm .... better? He's only 20, so he'll fill out a bit yet I imagine. Yeah Evander Holyfield and Frank Bruno had to lose 3 stone to avoid flagging on the NHS obesity scale. 2 stone underweight would be, erm......better?
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