CB Fry Posted 3 August, 2015 Share Posted 3 August, 2015 "Traditional kit" is a nonsense for the vast majority of football teams. If we stick with green for a number of years then fans will eventually refer to it as being traditional and be up in arms if we move to anything else. What a load of rubbish. I could easily name the traditional kits of at least 75% of the clubs in the Football/Premier league, others on here ( calling The9) could do every sodding club. Chuck the major European clubs in and that is a heck of a lot of "traditional" kits we could all name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 August, 2015 Share Posted 3 August, 2015 What a load of rubbish. I could easily name the traditional kits of at least 75% of the clubs in the Football/Premier league, others on here ( calling The9) could do every sodding club. Chuck the major European clubs in and that is a heck of a lot of "traditional" kits we could all name. I was recently told that Spurs didn't wear yellow away shirts enough recently to assume it was a likely away kit colour, you know. Despite them averaging one every other year for the past 40 odd years. The long and short of this discussion, as Gecko Saint once told me having designed at least one yellow away kit, is that the club doesn't like selling them because we can't shift many, because everyone's already got one. Now for a "buys everything" lozor like me that's basically sacrilege, but I can see why Johnny Two-Kits would prefer a nice one-off green effort over "another yellow one", and the home sash shirt (and the much less palatable all red efforts) pretty much showed that people will buy anything, and like it, with enough justification. Which reminds me, anyone heard anything about that supposed Seattle link-up yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 3 August, 2015 Share Posted 3 August, 2015 It's ****e. End of. That design in yellow and blue would have been fantastic. Which idiot chose the colour of a drunkards puke for a saints kit? Stoke and us have the same home kit. We also have the same away kit inversed and reversed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 August, 2015 Share Posted 3 August, 2015 I was recently told that Spurs didn't wear yellow away shirts enough recently to assume it was a likely away kit colour, you know. Despite them averaging one every other year for the past 40 odd years. The long and short of this discussion, as Gecko Saint once told me having designed at least one yellow away kit, is that the club doesn't like selling them because we can't shift many, because everyone's already got one. Now for a "buys everything" lozor like me that's basically sacrilege, but I can see why Johnny Two-Kits would prefer a nice one-off green effort over "another yellow one", and the home sash shirt (and the much less palatable all red efforts) pretty much showed that people will buy anything, and like it, with enough justification. Which reminds me, anyone heard anything about that supposed Seattle link-up yet? I think not having yellow - and - blue every season is fine - once every five seasons probably works in our new kit every year era. I dont feel particularly affectionate to it as Ive liked other aways in my time and wasn't born in 1976 anyway. I would suggest while Gecko was no doubt right, it's also true that yer Yellow top is less popular as an item of leisurewear so we might shift less compared to our recent dark blue/black efforts. Goes so well with the jeans, darling. I think we can file "Operation Seattle" next to "our plain red kit is going to conquer China for SFC" in the world of kit-centric silliness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 3 August, 2015 Share Posted 3 August, 2015 What a load of rubbish. I could easily name the traditional kits of at least 75% of the clubs in the Football/Premier league, others on here ( calling The9) could do every sodding club. Chuck the major European clubs in and that is a heck of a lot of "traditional" kits we could all name. eh? away kits are not traditional, especially these days they change ALL the time. So the rubbish comment only describes your following words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 August, 2015 Share Posted 3 August, 2015 eh? away kits are not traditional, especially these days they change ALL the time. So the rubbish comment only describes your following words. I was talking about "traditional" kits in general, as was MLG who as you can see doesn't believe clubs have traditional kits, a point he made way back when, when he liked to talk about our Cortese plain red becoming our new traditional kit from the point we started wearing it. Because we were going to wear plain red for decades to come so we were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 3 August, 2015 Share Posted 3 August, 2015 ALL modern day football kits are ugly. The old Adidas originals from the late 80s early 90s were acceptable. That said the black away one Saints had 13/14 season was smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 3 August, 2015 Share Posted 3 August, 2015 No issue with it, but it is tough to sing Gr-een with two syllables Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andoru Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 I don't mind it. It's a bit different. As for the claims it will be harder to see players, you have to remember most of us tend to watch from a higher position – TV cameras point down so we see them against the pitch. At ground level, where the players see each other, it's presumably less of an issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Still better than the boring Yellow and Blue sh!te. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 All opinions, all subjective. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say. I like it, although I wouldn't call it beautiful either. I'm buying one for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 I love it so there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunit Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 I like it allot, so much so that I have bought it. No it isn't one of the best kits ever but it certainly isn't an ugly kit. And to be honest we could be playing in pink/brown for all i care, as long as we're winning I don't give a sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Something like this but with Ronald's face would be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Marmite wish I knew how to post a photo of a jar rather than the word :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanyamaisatank Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 interesting fact in recent years (going back to last few years in prem if that still counts as recent) any yellow and blue away kit has sold less than the other coloured counterparts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkou Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 No, it isn't... That was my first ever kit (7th birthday I think) so I would beg to differ purely for sentimental reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 yup. third kit can be any old colour, but Yellow and blue for the main away kit. Shouldn't need a third kit if you get the second kit colour right. As for the green. Horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 All opinions, all subjective. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say. I find it funny people when trot this line out since its really not subjective at all. Anyone that's studied colour theory, art history and graphic design knows full well that there are rules around "beauty". It's actually fairly well documented and not really that subjective at all, hence why you'll find good design is agreed to be beautiful by the majority on the whole. It is also a very difficult thing to get right and for me that shirt doesn't get it right. They forget the basic principle of less is more, and it looks to me to have been designed by someone fairly junior or new to the role. I'm fairly sure on a computer screen it looked a lot better but whoever did it didn't take into account the fabric it was to be made with that will have changed the look of the kit. As for traditional thing of course we have traditional colours - as do most clubs - and it'd take the best part of a generation to change that since you'd need people to forget they existed to change them. My preference would always be simple yellow and blue, the plainer the better, with unobtrusive sponsors and much better cut than our usual shirts (the sash being the last well cut saints shirt). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 I don't mind it. It's a bit different. As for the claims it will be harder to see players, you have to remember most of us tend to watch from a higher position – TV cameras point down so we see them against the pitch. At ground level, where the players see each other, it's presumably less of an issue? Tell that to Fergie when they wore grey and we stuffed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 (edited) I find it funny people when trot this line out since its really not subjective at all. Anyone that's studied colour theory, art history and graphic design knows full well that there are rules around "beauty". It's actually fairly well documented and not really that subjective at all, hence why you'll find good design is agreed to be beautiful by the majority on the whole. It is also a very difficult thing to get right and for me that shirt doesn't get it right. They forget the basic principle of less is more, and it looks to me to have been designed by someone fairly junior or new to the role. I'm fairly sure on a computer screen it looked a lot better but whoever did it didn't take into account the fabric it was to be made with that will have changed the look of the kit. As for traditional thing of course we have traditional colours - as do most clubs - and it'd take the best part of a generation to change that since you'd need people to forget they existed to change them. My preference would always be simple yellow and blue, the plainer the better, with unobtrusive sponsors and much better cut than our usual shirts (the sash being the last well cut saints shirt). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Interesting you say this as I was looking at kits from the 60s the other day and to me they look much better. My all time favourite was the kit that we won the World Cup in. Simple but effective and that shade of red was perfect. Edited 4 August, 2015 by sadoldgit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 No, it isn't... I am pretty sure that the yellow version around that time, with solid blue sleeves and a small collar, was a close rival to that one. We wore it at Wimbledon, when we won 2-1 from a goal down, with Neil Shipps scoring twice away from home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andoru Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Tell that to Fergie when they wore grey and we stuffed them. Football pitches are green, not grey. People were saying our players would blend in with the pitch and be hard to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Football pitches are green, not grey. People were saying our players would blend in with the pitch and be hard to see. Yes I know. My point was that Fergie was saying that it was hard for the players to pick each other out in grey. Hard to see. Get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitch Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 I wasn't keen when I first saw it in the pictures, but in the flesh I think it looks quite good. But then I like that Dimplex 94/95 away shirt too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Try taking a look at Reading's new away kit of African Violet. That takes some beating as work kit for the new season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentry Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 I love the away kit. And one reason I love it is that it's the away kit. To me away kits should be a bit different, something that obviously would not be done to the home kit. And also in 10 years time when we look back at highlights and remember things then the kits are crucial to place when it happened. Much like the sash home kit from a few years ago I know exaclty what season that was becasue of the distinctive kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambsaint Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 If the Yellow and Blue weren't so iconic and reminiscent of our greatest moments, then I wouldn't be too bothered about the green. However for me and I suspect most of my generation the yellow and blue is as sacred as red and white stripes. The mention of black and yellow brings back memories as it was the same colour as my Manchester University engineering faculty scarf, so it served two purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genk Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 For those of you moaning you can't see the players properly, don't bother turning up to the away games in that case and leave the tickets for those of us who have proper vision. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 [ATTACH=CONFIG]1772[/ATTACH] What were they thinking, the ugliest kit ever! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Pretty sure when you look at our 2nd kit history since 1976, blue has featured most. Rank Xerox, Air Florida, draper tools, dimplex, friends provident, Muvi. Yellow is a tough colour to make work although I guess Brasil do ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Ecru? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Something like this but with Ronald's face would be good In vivid green of course. Just to upset everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 I find it funny people when trot this line out since its really not subjective at all. Anyone that's studied colour theory, art history and graphic design knows full well that there are rules around "beauty". It's actually fairly well documented and not really that subjective at all, hence why you'll find good design is agreed to be beautiful by the majority on the whole. It is also a very difficult thing to get right and for me that shirt doesn't get it right. They forget the basic principle of less is more, and it looks to me to have been designed by someone fairly junior or new to the role. I'm fairly sure on a computer screen it looked a lot better but whoever did it didn't take into account the fabric it was to be made with that will have changed the look of the kit. As for traditional thing of course we have traditional colours - as do most clubs - and it'd take the best part of a generation to change that since you'd need people to forget they existed to change them. My preference would always be simple yellow and blue, the plainer the better, with unobtrusive sponsors and much better cut than our usual shirts (the sash being the last well cut saints shirt). Reply : Having been in that business for many years I would have loved this to be the case because it would have made commercial decision-making much easier but it just isn't true ! Opinions vary to the extent of black to white, that is human nature and is subjective in the extreme ! The guy who used the term 'Marmite' was spot on about this kit, not you ! All IMHO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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