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Saw this, clearly a bit of fun, but nice to be top of the league :)

 

http://www.thehardtackle.com/2015/survey-reveals-manchester-united-chelsea-fc-as-most-hated-premier-league-clubs/

 

thought this was amusing

 

The poll, which first asks the voter to reveal which club they support, says that fans of Everton and Manchester United are the most frequent in terms of disliking Liverpool, with Southampton fans third. That is, unsurprising given the number of players Liverpool FC have been signing from St. Mary’s.

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I think there was another club who used to be, "everyone's favourite second team." I can't remember who it was now.

 

I don't go on for 2nd teams, but if my life depended on it, it would probably be either Norwich or Bompey. I don't hate any teams. I have a grudging admiration for United, Chelsea and Arsenal and a deep dislike for Liverpool and Spurs. The latter was formed a long time ago and cemented after a 1-1 draw at WHL where afterwards I was walking away with my cousin and he was attacked for absolutely no reason what so ever. Chav kung-gued him in the head. Think it was the last game of the season in 97/98. Plus my accountant supports them and I don't like him.

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It's good that we most like bompey and in return they most dislike us.

 

I like them even more now.

 

In a question limited to the 20 PL clubs, almost all of which we've had nothing to do with for all of history, of course Saints being local and the only club we have contact with, were going to come up top of that list for us. Who else is there for us to vote for. An odd poll in the first place.

 

Although I can understand Saints finishing high up the list, you play great football and produce decent players for all the better supported clubs! ;)

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I wonder what footballer's think of man city. I know most fans I've spoken to don't like them, and the atmosphere at the etihad (though I've never been) is supposed to be dire, even in big champions league games.

 

But all this talk of guardiola going to man city, as well as big players like de bruyne etc. I wasn't surprised that raheem went, it's the kind of player that would. But it just surprises me that players I regard as 'decorated' or experienced, would go to the etihad to play.

 

Maybe the impression on the continent is they are a massive club with lots of history and lots of supporters. don't really know if footballers see it in the same negative light as the fans

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In a question limited to the 20 PL clubs, almost all of which we've had nothing to do with for all of history, of course Saints being local and the only club we have contact with, were going to come up top of that list for us. Who else is there for us to vote for. An odd poll in the first place.

 

Although I can understand Saints finishing high up the list, you play great football and produce decent players for all the better supported clubs! ;)

 

You don't live in a bubble, you can form an opinion on teams you have never played. Afterall you have probably played Palace, Watford etc more than us.

 

Anyway enjoy your season, you cute little cherries you.

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I wonder what footballer's think of man city. I know most fans I've spoken to don't like them, and the atmosphere at the etihad (though I've never been) is supposed to be dire, even in big champions league games.

 

But all this talk of guardiola going to man city, as well as big players like de bruyne etc. I wasn't surprised that raheem went, it's the kind of player that would. But it just surprises me that players I regard as 'decorated' or experienced, would go to the etihad to play.

 

Maybe the impression on the continent is they are a massive club with lots of history and lots of supporters. don't really know if footballers see it in the same negative light as the fans

 

Footballers, like most of us, follow the money, they are essentially mercenaries and as long as City pay the wages they do [they were the highest in world team sport] they will attract top footballers and they will consequently win things. The more they win, the more "fans" they will ultimately attract. Gareth Barry remains a decent indicator of the modern game, he wanted to leave Villa and constantly stated in interview after interview statements such as "I will only leave to play for a team in the Champions League", Liverpool stepped in who were in the Champions League the deal was on the way to being finalised, at the same time Prince Mansour bought City who were NOT in the Champions League. Barry duly signed for City, the money they offered did the talking. Ironically enough the recent Delph transfer remains another rather distinct example to further help establish such matters.

 

The following makes for a decent read:

 

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/may/01/benoit-assou-ekotto-tottenham-hotspur

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The poster in questionJxgrSaint stated quite categorically "Liverpool don't win anything either and everyone hates them..." the "EITHER" was in direct response to an earlier post concerning the Saints winning "nothing" in terms of trophies by Grafittio. To make a comparison between Liverpool and the Saints in terms of winning things is of course eminently allowable on the basis that absurdity often engenders its own comedic elements and highlights to what levels people may stoop in order to be vindicated in their own minds.

 

The contraction "DON'T" in this also becomes crucial because they, Liverpool, DO win things, to imply otherwise is being disingenuous. They have won so many things that in fact they have won more trophies than any other English Club. Not to allow for that interpretation, the writer should have perhaps written "At the moment Liverpool are not winning trophies . . . . . . " S/he did not. Possibly to create the impression Liverpool DON'T win trophies AT ALL which given the context of the piece in relation to the Saints, has to be a fair assumption in regard to its true meaning. Because they have not won a trophy for three years doesn't mean they "DON'T win trophies"- they do. I'll attempt to nutshell the matter, now if the writer were to have said say Rochdale or Chester "don't win trophies", there would be no area to dispute. The fact is Liverpool do win trophies the record of such, despite people's own convictions, hopes and wilful blindness, remains there for all to see.

 

Obviously their success as with Man U's makes them a target for hate, hence they too are among the most hated clubs.

 

Another very relevant caveat to add to this and I believe it is fair to introduce it to the discussion, is that many people are very prone to stereotyping. Most of us know the score; the German's have no sense of humour, the French are merely the French and therefore totally dislikeable, Americans are big, brash and ignorant etc. etc., there are psychological comforts to be found in stereotyping and that brings us to the "Scouser", so many within these shores love to wallow in the stereotyping involved there. The Sun "newspaper" the biggest selling rag in the country by a country mile on the basis of "we don't care about who makes the news or who runs the country has long as she has big tits" , "was used" to tap into this rich vein when it was deemed necessary by the authorities to cover up the Hillsborough Disaster by the spreading of malicious lies and total misinformation. Knowing full well in doing so, so many would be so willing to swallow the same wholesale, after all it was the dirty horrible Scousers involved was it not! Many people and fans of most clubs, of course, willlingly lapped it up and let Liverpool fans constantly know exactly how they felt, but after a fight lasting some 25 years, many, many people were proved wrong, in the process one of the biggest cover-ups in British history was exposed. Many of us hate to be proved wrong, indeed many people won't accept being proved wrong despite all evidence to the contrary. Thereby many fans of other clubs having been "proved wrong" hate Liverpool FC and Scousers all the more . . . . . .

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As long as I didn't touch a nerve.......

 

Of curse not, so I must confess that when if comes to the "truth" I suffer from a form of OCD, do forgive me. Truth now of course being a philosophical plaything that suffers from deconstructionism and subjectivism in this so called "enlightened age" but given what we went [and go through] I hope you can forgive that.:D

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The poster in questionJxgrSaint stated quite categorically "Liverpool don't win anything either and everyone hates them..." the "EITHER" was in direct response to an earlier post concerning the Saints winning "nothing" in terms of trophies by Grafittio. To make a comparison between Liverpool and the Saints in terms of winning things is of course eminently allowable on the basis that absurdity often engenders its own comedic elements and highlights to what levels people may stoop in order to be vindicated in their own minds.

 

The contraction "DON'T" in this also becomes crucial because they, Liverpool, DO win things, to imply otherwise is being disingenuous. They have won so many things that in fact they have won more trophies than any other English Club. Not to allow for that interpretation, the writer should have perhaps written "At the moment Liverpool are not winning trophies . . . . . . " S/he did not. Possibly to create the impression Liverpool DON'T win trophies AT ALL which given the context of the piece in relation to the Saints, has to be a fair assumption in regard to its true meaning. Because they have not won a trophy for three years doesn't mean they "DON'T win trophies"- they do. I'll attempt to nutshell the matter, now if the writer were to have said say Rochdale or Chester "don't win trophies", there would be no area to dispute. The fact is Liverpool do win trophies the record of such, despite people's own convictions, hopes and wilful blindness, remains there for all to see.

 

Obviously their success as with Man U's makes them a target for hate, hence they too are among the most hated clubs.

 

Another very relevant caveat to add to this and I believe it is fair to introduce it to the discussion, is that many people are very prone to stereotyping. Most of us know the score; the German's have no sense of humour, the French are merely the French and therefore totally dislikeable, Americans are big, brash and ignorant etc. etc., there are psychological comforts to be found in stereotyping and that brings us to the "Scouser", so many within these shores love to wallow in the stereotyping involved there. The Sun "newspaper" the biggest selling rag in the country by a country mile on the basis of "we don't care about who makes the news or who runs the country has long as she has big tits" , "was used" to tap into this rich vein when it was deemed necessary by the authorities to cover up the Hillsborough Disaster by the spreading of malicious lies and total misinformation. Knowing full well in doing so, so many would be so willing to swallow the same wholesale, after all it was the dirty horrible Scousers involved was it not! Many people and fans of most clubs, of course, willlingly lapped it up and let Liverpool fans constantly know exactly how they felt, but after a fight lasting some 25 years, many, many people were proved wrong, in the process one of the biggest cover-ups in British history was exposed. Many of us hate to be proved wrong, indeed many people won't accept being proved wrong despite all evidence to the contrary. Thereby many fans of other clubs having been "proved wrong" hate Liverpool FC and Scousers all the more . . . . . .

 

this is a completely bizzare post

 

do you have adhd?

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Was just being flippant, I should have said "Liverpool haven't won a trophy of note for 10 years and don't look much more likely to than us for the forseeable future"

 

Yes I think I covered that aspect in my reply to Napalm [or certainly attempted to do so please re-read] but if the Saints say won the European Champions League, were then again Finalists in 2007 and were the better team in that final though they lost and during that whole period were EUFA ranked as the No 1 team in Europe. Also won the FA Cup and League Cup [all achieved in the last 10 years] would you be so dismissive of it, in that such would not constitute a "trophy of note"? Now dealing once again in the TRUTH not what some fans merely wish to believe, I remain strongly of the opinion Saint's fans to a man, woman and child would be ecstatic to have accomplished that lot over the last 10 years as would 98% - 99% of ALL professional teams in Europe, teams whose fans in truth can only dream of achieving such such football feats . . . . . as winning or even getting to the final of the European Champions League.

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this is a completely bizzare post

 

do you have adhd?

 

The person I replied to didn't find the post bizarre or at least did not claim such. Indeed, he /she thought it showed they may have hit a nerve. You do find it bizarre, fair enough but at this moment in time I would then feel compelled to introduce the concept that many people find the "truth" "difficult", that is what the post, a post you find bizarre, is attempting to deal with and you finding it "bizarre" may well paradoxically speaking constitute proof of the matter under discussion, in that the truth of matters often constitutes or takes on the form of the "bizarre" for many amongst us, "The truth is always akin to a punch in the eye, in that it ALWAYS offends" [Voltaire] You might fall into such a category. If you consider you don't fall into that category do then point out the bizarre elements of the piece and time permitting we'll discuss them.

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The person I replied to didn't find the post bizarre or at least did not claim such. Indeed, he /she thought it showed they may have hit a nerve. You do find it bizarre, fair enough but at this moment in time I would then feel compelled to introduce the concept that many people find the "truth" "difficult", that is what the post, a post you find bizarre, is attempting to deal with and you finding it "bizarre" may well paradoxically speaking constitute proof of the matter under discussion, in that the truth of matters often constitutes or takes on the form of the "bizarre" for many amongst us, "The truth is always akin to a punch in the eye, in that it ALWAYS offends" [Voltaire] You might fall into such a category. If you consider you don't fall into that category do then point out the bizarre elements of the piece and time permitting we'll discuss them.

 

mate. the bro said he thought he hit a nerve, because of your ridiculous overreaction and long post. the piece doesn't necessarily contain bizzare elements, but the fact that you just went off on one is not exactly normal behaviour. its a freakin football fans forum not a philosophers anonymous meeting

 

It's nothing to do with not handling the truth, I'm sure if I had as much time on my hands as you do, I'd read your posts in detail and possibly agree with you.

 

I appreciate you actually spending time to reply instead of the normal posts on here like people just quoting and writing "this" (to be fair I've done that), or the usual ranting that goes on between people, but seriously try to just be a little bit more brief

 

noone on this forum wants to read a stream of consciousness

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